I'll check with Mesa today...thanks!
Thanks! Come to think of it..I do have an ohmmeter...forgot I had one!
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Mesa Boogie Walkabout Mega-thread Pt. Tres
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I'll check with Mesa today...thanks!
Thanks! Come to think of it..I do have an ohmmeter...forgot I had one!
In post #582 of this thread, I think naturalkinds asked the question thats on my mind this morning too:
How would you Scout-experienced players compare the use of a Scout 12 + extension cab to using two Scout 12 combos in a stack?
A 12 radiator extension cab from Mesa is pricey enough that it makes me wonder if I should wait and spend a some more and find a 2nd used Scout combo instead? I could use the two combos in a stack, with an A/B/Y pedal to them for selecting either or both on a gig.
Would that be the best possible volume upgrade over my WAScout 12? Or does a WAS + extension cab have a magic that beats all?
How would you Scout-experienced players compare the use of a Scout 12 + extension cab to using two Scout 12 combos in a stack?
A 12 radiator extension cab from Mesa is pricey enough that it makes me wonder if I should wait and spend a some more and find a 2nd used Scout combo instead? I could use the two combos in a stack, with an A/B/Y pedal to them for selecting either or both on a gig.
Would that be the best possible volume upgrade over my WAScout 12? Or does a WAS + extension cab have a magic that beats all?
For those who want to check the serial number: pulling the head is a matter of taking out six screws and unplugging the speaker lead. Very easy.
I'm a little out of step, because I have the WAS 1x15. I was told that it would be boomy, but the only time I had that problem was in the relatively small rec room at a senior citizen's center we play occasionally. A quick tweak with the EQ, and it was gone.
I do kinda wish it were as light as the 1x12....
I'm a little out of step, because I have the WAS 1x15. I was told that it would be boomy, but the only time I had that problem was in the relatively small rec room at a senior citizen's center we play occasionally. A quick tweak with the EQ, and it was gone.
I do kinda wish it were as light as the 1x12....
The true extension cabs don't show up very often used. I went ahead and purchased a regular scout cab with no amp at a very reasonable price. Even with the empty space for the amp, my scout cabinet stacks and sets perfectly on on top.
The Scout cabs can get crazy deep for a 12" cab, but as mentioned numerous times in this thread, the EQ is great for that. Dialing out some of the low end even gives a little more headroom.
The Scout stack is a formidable stack for sure. I can only assume that the extension cab would be slightly deeper due to not having a space for the amp, but that's only a guess as I've not had the opportunity to take one for a spin.
Thanks, CElton.
I'm figuring that a Scout + Cab would give me a big boost, and a Scout + 2nd Scout would mean even bigger/clearer low notes (for example, first five frets on an E-string).
I'm figuring that a Scout + Cab would give me a big boost, and a Scout + 2nd Scout would mean even bigger/clearer low notes (for example, first five frets on an E-string).
Just my devalues .02, but, I think getting a whole second Walkabout is kinda silly.
Just get an extension cab.
Running at two ohms, your single walkabout makes 550 watts, which is only 50 watts shy of having two.
Or, get one biga** cab for bigger venues, and let cone area be your friend.
I like Walkabout+Henry 8x8, myself.
ymmv, of course.
Just get an extension cab.
Running at two ohms, your single walkabout makes 550 watts, which is only 50 watts shy of having two.
Or, get one biga** cab for bigger venues, and let cone area be your friend.
I like Walkabout+Henry 8x8, myself.
ymmv, of course.
Big clear lows are definitely not a problem with 2 Scout cabinets and 1 WA is plenty to push both of them. I have to cut lows now so my low B doesn't boom.
I have been using my Walkabout now exclusively, for a change I brought my LMII to rehearsal, but brought the Walkabout just in case, after the first set, I put the Walkabout back.
Not knocking the LMII, but no comparison - a whole lot of something was missing with the LMII, I did not spend much time messing around with it, had the LMII set flat with the fliters are about 9 o'clock.
Mesa was flat, mids trimmed a touch, gain at Noon, Master at 9ish and it was killing with two Guitars, Keys and Drums.
I ran both through a GK 1x12 NEO II.
Just sharing the experience and validating again a great freaking Bass Head.
Not knocking the LMII, but no comparison - a whole lot of something was missing with the LMII, I did not spend much time messing around with it, had the LMII set flat with the fliters are about 9 o'clock.
Mesa was flat, mids trimmed a touch, gain at Noon, Master at 9ish and it was killing with two Guitars, Keys and Drums.
I ran both through a GK 1x12 NEO II.
Just sharing the experience and validating again a great freaking Bass Head.
If you carry a back-up head to every gig, having two Scouts would be a convenient way to do it!
If you were going to use two of them at once, you would likely want to get an active A/B/Y switch with a buffer or you'll have trouble with a weak signal when driving both amps.
As stated above, having 2 WAs in Scout cabinets would be very convenient for backup purposes, but I'd bet you'd find little difference in added headroom and alot more headache in setup using two amps at once vs. just one plugged into both cabinets.
If you get two combo cabs to run with one amp, you'll need to either replace the hardwired speaker cable on one of them with a female 1/4" plug or actually add a 1/4" jack plate...or what I do sometimes- use a Countryman Type 85 DI (or any other DI that can handle a speaker-level signal) as a speaker cable router...the Scout extension cab of course already has just a jack input instead of the hardwired 1/4" cable.
IMO 2 combos makes no sense. The 12 cab will max out around 200 watts anyway-even a 4 Ohm 12 doesn't make physics sense, as it will NOT be audibly louder than the 175 watts into 8 Ohms. I have owned both. This applies only to the 12. The 15 CAN handle the 300 watts and will not be limited by excursion before then-so a 4 Ohm 15 will be louder than an 8 Ohm 15. Soooooooo having 2 12 combos, regardless of impedance, will NOT be appreciably louder than 1 with an ext cab REGARDLESS of cab impedances IME.
Bottom line is if you want louder than 2 12s will give you with the Walkabout, either pull the head and use a larger cab (410 or whatever) at 4 Ohms or, if you have the 12 combo, change your combo speaker to 8 Ohms (about 150 from Mesa direct or a dealer-a 10 minute mod doable by anyone with a screwdriver) and get a larger 4 \ohm ext cab to put under it. Eg an 8 Ohm 12 combo with a 4 Ohm 212 under it will spread the power pretty evenly across the 3 drivers and give much more cone area and volume than a pair of 12s. IME the WA can easily handle the 2.7 Ohm load of this setup.
Ummmm, 2 12" scouts aren't enough? I replaced the speakers with Kappa 3012's and it can keep up with anything
Krügmeister;9717008 said:
I agree that 2 Scout 12s should handle almost anything (certainly anything I do) but others have different needs/desires/fantasies
I will say that with 2 of them, might as well both be 8 Ohms to tax the head less 'cause the stack will not be significantly louder if both are 4 Ohms. It'll sound and work fine either way, however.
THIS,...is an excellent idea, and one I've considered ever since I sold my Scout cab earlier this year. A 4 ohm 2x12, with an 8 ohm 1x12 is a perfect set-up for a WA head, and would certainly be enough juice for all but the loudest of metal bands-(unless they were pro's). Now, instead of a new headcase for my WA, I think I'll order an 8 ohm Scout.
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