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Mesa Strategy and Prodigy discontinued. Also PH cabs.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mikeswals, Jul 3, 2018.


  1. Arthur U. Poon

    Arthur U. Poon

    Jan 30, 2004
    SLC, Utah -USA-
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Basses
    I'm an Owner/Operator Truck Driver, so I don't gig very much anymore. At one time, I did the 40 hour a week job, plus roughly 220 live gigs a year thing, and I used much more portable gear back then.

    My band plays classic hard rock and old school Metal covers, with some original material. Because I use a Tech 21 GED-2112 preamp, I use a stereo power amp, and run separate "Dirty" and "Clean" channels into separate cabinets. 95% of the time, my pair of PH212s is more than I need.

    There aren't very many bars to play live in my area, especially for the material we play, AND that we're group of old guys rocking out, :D but that's not really my band's focus. We're having fun, and playing local festivals and seasonal outdoor gigs is what we're working towards.

    I'm buying the PH610 for the rare outdoor gig, where I'll need more stage coverage. -And to finally have that stupidly massive bass amp that I always dreamed of in my youth. :D :thumbsup: :bassist:
     
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  2. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    I'm a casino circuit player doing top40 and dance and R&B, it's usually fri & sat nights 9pm-1am gigs, ~3 weekends a month. And for the past year and a half been using two PH210 cabs.

    I could never make use of one single speaker, it would just be a fart machine for me. I've never seen that you could pump tons of watts into a single speaker...you can fill more space with multiple speakers and a lower wattage amp, than a high power amp and one speaker. My Bass 400 making 240w into a PH212 is a lot of power in this band, but in my former originals metal band that same Bass 400 needed two PH212 cabs to keep up with a metal drummer and much louder guitarists. Loud and detuned 'heavy' notes soaks up a lot of power, which was why I had bought the Strategy 8:88.
     
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  3. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    We play outdoors at lots of bars in north texas, and when indoors, do (mostly) crowded joints with crappy PA systems. A fEARful 12/12/6/1 on "tilt back wheels" is easier to move that a 30 lb combo. My load-in is super easy, even with stairs.

    I am never short on clean volume. I have a good DI when the PA is up to the job, and find the tall cabinet is a good place for HPF and tuner. I envy your busy schedule!
     
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  4. pfschim

    pfschim Just a Skeleton with a Jazz bass

    Apr 26, 2006
    SF Bay Area
    not close to 250, but I'm on track to do about 80 gigs this year. Mostly small to medium sized venues (50-200ish people) and some much larger festival gigs.
    Festival gigs all provide pretty serious PA, and my amp is just a stage monitor there .. or I just use a provided backline. For the small/medium venue gigs, about 25% of them don't provide bass support in FOH, so my rig has to cover the venue.
    I roll with a Berg CN212 and a WD800. One trip load in/out with bass, cab, amp and micro pedal board. No problem at all and I've never been asked to turn down ;)
     
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  5. LoL
    Listen, I’m not playing coffee shops with an acoustic player for these gigs....
    One band is top 40 bar rock with two guitar players (old bass player would roll in a 410- sometimes add a 115 as well), another is a 10 piece horn band that covers everything from Chicago to Bruno Mars to Motown. Other gigs are 6 piece modern country with two guitars etc....none of which are “quiet” gigs.

    I’ve played some huge festivals with nothing more than a 410 as back line. Sometimes there’s an SVT 810 (side note, played a outdoor gig a week or so ago, had a 69 SVT and matching 810, it was buttery sounding!). Again, with the exception of bigger festival stages, a 112, maybe two, would be more than adequate.
    But, I’m the hired gun on 90% of the gigs. I’m not paid to be upfront, so I guess I’m not really ever more than 15-20 feet from my rig. If that.
     
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  6. Back on topic......
    If this yahoo doesn’t respond on Reverb by tonight, tomorrow I’m in the market for a Prodigy......
     
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  7. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011

    I get you! I last toured primarily with an Eden D210XLT stacked on top of my rolling rack rig and tilted back a bit to aim at my ears. I think I had about 240W available and never clipped the amp that I remember. My rig served as my personal monitor. The PA did the heavy lifting and stage monitors provided bass to anyone else who wanted to hear it.
     
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  8. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    250 gigs = mad respect!!! :cigar:
     
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  9. Quoting myself- yikes!!!... seller just contacted me.
    Prodigy shipping to me tomorrow. Unfortunately will miss all of this weeks/weekends gigs.

    It’s coming from Texas to Michigan. So, I’ll probably see it like Monday is my guess.
     
  10. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...

    I'd love a powerhouse 610!
     
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  11. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...

    A Subway 410 / 210 stack would do the job though.....:smug:
     
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  12. Arthur U. Poon

    Arthur U. Poon

    Jan 30, 2004
    SLC, Utah -USA-
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Basses
    Or a pair of Subway 410"s!
     
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  13. Arthur U. Poon

    Arthur U. Poon

    Jan 30, 2004
    SLC, Utah -USA-
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Basses
    Absolutely
    I very much agree. Harder edged styles require lots of power, and speakers. For me, the PH212 and PH610 cabinets have a voicing that works really well for the rock styles that I play, and I know they'd be equally good for many other styles.

    When I was playing 200+ gigs a year, I played casinos quite often. Those gigs were fun.
     
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  14. pfschim

    pfschim Just a Skeleton with a Jazz bass

    Apr 26, 2006
    SF Bay Area
    unless I missed it along the way, MikeBass really did not say if he gets PA support for bass on his many gigs. If so, heck a 1x10 would work too ... as long as there was a meaningful PA and decent monitoring that included bass. I've had that luxury in the recent past when one band I was in had its own decently equipped PA, dedicated sound tech and even a small crew to load-in/out (ahh, those were the days :laugh:). It was also the last time I regularly took my Berg NV610 and Fender Studio Bass amp out too (because someone else moved it for me :thumbsup:).

    FWIW, I definitely don't like loud stage sound and work hard to keep my dB level down on stage. But you have to have enough rig for the gig no matter how large or small.
     
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  15. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011

    He mentioned doing outdoor gigs and festivals with only one or two 12s, so I am assuming he gets PA support :bag:.
     
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  16. Yes, always PA support.
    Haven’t played a gig where I had to carry the room in quite a while.

    If I have to, I’m sure a pair of PH12’s would level a place nicely.
     
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  17. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Truly, one of the stand-out Mesa cabs, IME/IMHO, that is among a field of generally fantastic Mesa bass cabs! :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Hi Tom!!!!


    Anyone know where I can score a 4:88 footswitch?
     
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  19. hennessybass

    hennessybass Supporting Member

    Oct 11, 2008
    Houston, TX
  20. Well damn.....there ya go then....lol

    Ordered!
     
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