Mesa Subway DI's, Gone For Good?

[got_the_bug]

Nice price, order placed! Excited to get this and try it out live...still have my original version Subway+ DI, and appreciate the smaller form factor of this one.

 

[Pep]

Are these in stock or are we preordering?

 

[agedhorse]

Are these in stock or are we preordering?

In stock and shipping.

(we don't do the vaporware thing)

 

[Pep]

In stock and shipping.

(we don't do the vaporware thing)

Thanks buddy!

 

[just_chill]

Yesssssss!!!! Ordered! I have been hop

Ok guys, I promised you a couple of weeks ago that I would let you know about the new Subway+ Preamp-DI pedal that I've been working on for so long, here's some pictures and I will work on getting the owner's manual available as soon as I can.

This is special early information for TB players since you were all instrumental to helping refine the feature set (including size and cost) into the resulting end product, therefor you deserve an earlier sneak peak!

Al Kraft, Gus Kendrick and Tom Bowlus have all had some time with it and can provide their impressions from a player perspective as I think this is probably the most valuable for players. Gus got some time with it on tour too, so there's some additional real world experience here.

For those of you who have been hounding me to make it smaller, the dimensions are: 6” (152mm) wide x 4.3” (110mm) deep (including jacks) x 2.5” (63mm) high (including knobs and feet)

WOOOHOOOOOO!!! This is awesome news! Ordered mine a few minutes ago! I have been using the V1 of this pedal and always wished I would have bought 2 when I had the chance. Now I am glad I didn't buy the old version for the hiked up price and waited! This has made my night!

 

[ninjatanzen]

Are these in stock or are we preordering?

In stock and shipping.

(we don't do the vaporware thing)

Looks like typical retailers (Sweetwater, GC, etc.) are still on pre-order, but you provided a link to the Gibson site where I imagine it's ready to ship once purchased (not to mention more of the money is kept in house/supporting you and the fantastic work/service you provide so many of us). I might not have have ordered a Broughton HPF if I had waited roughly one more week and known about this. Chances are I'll still end up with this, and I'm not upset with my Broughton HPF purchase.

Stellar looking pedal, likely amazing performance, and the price... feels too good to be true in this day and age.

Amazing work Agedhorse!

 

[Pep]

Just ordered mine. This gives me a preamp for my QSC K12.2 and eliminates two of my pedals, an HPF and a Gain pedal. This is very exciting.
I’m very grateful, Andy!

 

[agedhorse]

Looks like typical retailers (Sweetwater, GC, etc.) are still on pre-order, but you provided a link to the Gibson site where I imagine it's ready to ship once purchased (not to mention more of the money is kept in house/supporting you and the fantastic work/service you provide so many of us). I might not have have ordered a Broughton HPF if I had waited roughly one more week and known about this. Chances are I'll still end up with this, and I'm not upset with my Broughton HPF purchase.

Stellar looking pedal, likely amazing performance, and the price... feels too good to be true in this day and age.

Amazing work Agedhorse!

Thanks.

I know that some dealers have already shipped pedals to TB members, but some may be delayed a day or two since it often takes large dealers more time to process them into their system. They don't move as fast...

 

[ninjatanzen]

Thanks.

I know that some dealers have already shipped pedals to TB members, but some may be delayed a day or two since it often takes large dealers more time to process them into their system. They don't move as fast...

That's the other part I forgot to mention, they may have sold quickly/quicker than expected for their initial order value (I simply don't have that data, but could see it being a possibility). I don't blame them if that's the case, who wouldn't want this?!

A day or two really isn't bad all things considered. Especially when you provided an option to buy and have it shipped directly from Gibson/Mesa right now

Edit: Purchased! Not going to let this one slip by

 

[EncoremMP]

And…. $199…. Not only the least expensive pre/di, but most assuredly the best fo Mesa fans! With Walrus , Origin , Ampeg , yaddda yadda being well Above this price point . I have an original non+ and will keep forever. But looking forward to this version.

 

[Pep]

And…. $199…. Not only the least expensive pre/di, but most assuredly the best fo Mesa fans! With Walrus , Origin , Ampeg , yaddda yadda being well Above this price point . I have an original non+ and will keep forever. But looking forward to this version.

At that price it’s a no-brainer.

 

[agedhorse]

Another important bit of information is that the 3 year warranty on our pedals didn’t change.

 

[TomB]

Certainly, blame me. That’s fine.

Yes, as I posted, the boards certainly have an input pad. I find 9 times out of 10 that in our brief sound checks, that pad is already engaged from the previous act. Since the pad is engaged, a mic level signal causes no signal to appear on the board. Should the Sound Engineer check the pad at that point? Yes; but, they don’t, instead assuming a bad cable. To be fair, some of my gigs are 9 piece bands, with mic’d drums, multiple microphones and complex stage monitor mixes. The Sound Engineer is just trying to get the check done, while the audience is waiting. Correcting the pad setting from the stage delays the sound check; and is a complication I would rather avoid.

But, feel free to blame me; no worries.

Also, my DI feeds have both Mic and Line XLR capability. I can switch. I’m good either way. I just try to help the Sound Engineers make us sound good.

BTW, I just sold my excellent GK Legacy combo, after doing two seasons worth of gigs. AI states that output as mic level; but the boards all use the input pad. Possibly, this goes back to Andy’s comment that bass amp DI’s are “hot mic” level. All I know is that my Demeter Jensen DI feeds require disengaging the pad on the board input, Amps, like the Legacy generally need the pad on the board. My BDDI has both Mic and Line, with the latter requiring the pad, and the former requiring disengaging the pad. I don’t know about the rest of you; but, I find all of that slightly confusing.

So, are there three DI out levels? Mic, “Hot Mic,” and Line? I always defined Line to mean that the board’s input pad would be engaged.

Whatever. I’ll most likely be using my Shift Line Olympic pre/DI for upcoming gigs; and that box simply has a volume control for the DI. No terminology confusion required.

Sorry, didn’t mean to pile on. I wrote without looking at the earlier similar responses. In fact, I was blaming your sound tech, not you. It’s nice of you to be so considerate of them .

 

[TomB]

Here's a copy of the owner's manual, everything should be live on the website tomorrow.

With apologies for my lack of skill reading block diagrams: Does the boost affect the DI when in pre mode? …looks like it. Does the mute switch mute the DI output? …I think.
Thanks!

 

[tombowlus]

I've been able to spend a little time with one, and I can confirm that it sounds just as good as my original Subway pedal.

 

[Pep]

I've been able to spend a little time with one, and I can confirm that it sounds just as good as my original Subway pedal. View attachment 7475609

Thanks Tom. That’s great info!

 

[Pep]

I paid “zero” taxes by ordering from Gibson. Just thought you might want to know.

 

[agedhorse]

With apologies for my lack of skill reading block diagrams: Does the boost affect the DI when in pre mode? …looks like it. Does the mute switch mute the DI output? …I think.
Thanks!

Yes, because when a player intentionally switches in a level increase, this almost always needs to be included in the mix as well, so it’s one less thing that the FOH guy needs to try to accommodate and follow when there are other much more important things to focus on in a mix.

 

[Bassgeer]

Awesome to see the Subway DI make a return! This gives me the faintest hope that we may someday see a DI based on the WD-800 front end. A man can dream hahaha.

 

[bucephylus]

Sorry, didn’t mean to pile on. I wrote without looking at the earlier similar responses. In fact, I was blaming your sound tech, not you. It’s nice of you to be so considerate of them .

No worries. In fact, I’m not just being nice. There is a good bit of self interest ; since the SE determines what the audience hears! I bend over backwards to make their job easy!