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Metallica...what went wrong

I am sitting here listening to the Black album, which seemed to be their peak. They could never get back to the top of the mountain again as they were when this was released.

Load and Re-load were good but not as good and since then ..... seems to be even worse.

Yes I am a Jason fan, but besides that, it's like he could see the writing on the wall and jumped ship.

My ques is: what went wrong? Not with Jason but with Metallica as a whole and falling so far.....? :eyebrow:
 
They rose to the top with the Black Album because the album brought in millions of people who were into pop metal and not necessarily thrash/heavy metal. When they got bored of listening to the one or two songs on the album they liked, they put it down and moved on. So, Metallica could never sell that many albums again. They had lost the hardcore metal fans and they lost the limited attention span of the new fans. The album put them into the history books, but it also was the beginning of the end. Or, one could say after Cliff died, sucked completely.
 
You'll have to get a consensus on when they stopped being awesome first. There's general consensus it occurred between '86 and '99. Once you narrow that down, the rest is easy.:|

Having given it very little thought, I think the last one I really need to own is the Black Album. So that might be where it stopped being awesome. Rock also changed pretty dramatically shortly after.
 
Well, you try being in one of the biggest and most successful metal bands of all time for 30 years and see how it goes for you...... Really not trying to be a jerk or anything, but its so true. Metallica has gone through so many changes, difficult and good times, a death of a dear friend and fellow musician, being stone cold broke to dirt rich, addiction issues, ego issues, aging in the midst of all this and being in the public eye for years. There are so many variables and things in that equation that you cant possibly say, "what went wrong?" What didnt go wrong?! Yet they are still here kickin out the jams. They may not be on the same page as they were 20 years ago, but who is? I dont know about you, but I dont know of too many bands that can pull off what AC/DC does album after album of the same exact stuff and be somewhat successful at it. I still appreciate Metallica because at least they are still moving, trying to do what they know how to do. Do they always do what we would like them to do? Nope, not in the least. But I have to hand it to them, they have made a hell of a career and name for themselves and I will always have a special place in my heart for the boys in Metallica. They were, afterall, my first favorite band. I can thank the Black Album for that ;)
 
Last album I bought was master of puppets, did not care of anything after that. Lars and James are the one to blame as the other two are mainly employees. James got tired of writing new material and Lars became a spoiled child.
 
Having given it very little thought, I think the last one I really need to own is the Black Album. So that might be where it stopped being awesome. Rock also changed pretty dramatically shortly after.
Last album I purchased was either Garage Inc. or S&M. But both were purchased to listen to classic material one had hard to find ep material the other had reimaginings of classics.
 
The Beatles may be the one band who did not hit their peak...we will never know
Many say Rubber Soul or Sgt Pepper but Abbey Road is just as good if not better IMO
As far as Metalica. I think they peaked with the Black Album and then as others have said-money and ego may have gotten in the way...and they were then writing from a different perspective....hard to as angry at the world or to view the world the same way after they became as successful as they became. Hard to blame them for that
 
Black album their "peak"? Blah.

They lost me after Master.

Give me City Gardens in NJ and the Kill Em All days...

If I want thrash, I'll listen to Overkill and Exodus. :bassist:

Maybe its an era thing. The Black Album came out when I went into grade 9 and I discovered hard rock/metal at that time lol! So for me the Black album will be the standout for me.
 
The Beatles may be the one band who did not hit their peak...we will never know
Many say Rubber Soul or Sgt Pepper but Abbey Road is just as good if not better IMO
As far as Metalica. I think they peaked with the Black Album and then as others have said-money and ego may have gotten in the way...and they were then writing from a different perspective....hard to as angry at the world or to view the world the same way after they became as successful as they became. Hard to blame them for that

Beatles and add U2 to that also (sorry I love my boys from Dublin!) lol!