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Metallica...what went wrong

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Glenn77, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. Glenn77


    Feb 24, 2014
    I am sitting here listening to the Black album, which seemed to be their peak. They could never get back to the top of the mountain again as they were when this was released.

    Load and Re-load were good but not as good and since then ..... seems to be even worse.

    Yes I am a Jason fan, but besides that, it's like he could see the writing on the wall and jumped ship.

    My ques is: what went wrong? Not with Jason but with Metallica as a whole and falling so far.....? :eyebrow:
  2. fisticuffs


    May 3, 2011
    Madison, WI
    Ego, money.
  3. Glenn77


    Feb 24, 2014
    True. Surprised both James and Lars don't hit their heads on the rafters when they play stadiums.

  4. Maz


    Jan 9, 2011
    And Justice for All was their last good album imo. WHen they decided to try and appeal to a wider audience they made a compromise they couldn't come back from.
  5. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    You'll have to get a consensus on when they stopped being awesome first. There's general consensus it occurred between '86 and '99. Once you narrow that down, the rest is easy.:|
  6. Datsgor

    Datsgor Supporting Member

    Jul 29, 2000
    They rose to the top with the Black Album because the album brought in millions of people who were into pop metal and not necessarily thrash/heavy metal. When they got bored of listening to the one or two songs on the album they liked, they put it down and moved on. So, Metallica could never sell that many albums again. They had lost the hardcore metal fans and they lost the limited attention span of the new fans. The album put them into the history books, but it also was the beginning of the end. Or, one could say after Cliff died, sucked completely.
  7. fisticuffs


    May 3, 2011
    Madison, WI
    Having given it very little thought, I think the last one I really need to own is the Black Album. So that might be where it stopped being awesome. Rock also changed pretty dramatically shortly after.
  8. JLY

    JLY Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Every artist has their peak....Metalica is no different
  9. gregmon79

    gregmon79 I did it for the muff... Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    Well, you try being in one of the biggest and most successful metal bands of all time for 30 years and see how it goes for you...... Really not trying to be a jerk or anything, but its so true. Metallica has gone through so many changes, difficult and good times, a death of a dear friend and fellow musician, being stone cold broke to dirt rich, addiction issues, ego issues, aging in the midst of all this and being in the public eye for years. There are so many variables and things in that equation that you cant possibly say, "what went wrong?" What didnt go wrong?! Yet they are still here kickin out the jams. They may not be on the same page as they were 20 years ago, but who is? I dont know about you, but I dont know of too many bands that can pull off what AC/DC does album after album of the same exact stuff and be somewhat successful at it. I still appreciate Metallica because at least they are still moving, trying to do what they know how to do. Do they always do what we would like them to do? Nope, not in the least. But I have to hand it to them, they have made a hell of a career and name for themselves and I will always have a special place in my heart for the boys in Metallica. They were, afterall, my first favorite band. I can thank the Black Album for that ;)
  10. pedroims


    Dec 19, 2007
    Last album I bought was master of puppets, did not care of anything after that. Lars and James are the one to blame as the other two are mainly employees. James got tired of writing new material and Lars became a spoiled child.
  11. powderfinger


    Feb 24, 2009
    Same thing as the Rolling Stones and every other band that's been around for 30 plus years.... they already wrote their best stuff, and they don't have anything left. That and they are old men.
  12. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    I liked Metallica best before I ever heard them.
  13. MrTaff


    Jan 20, 2014
    Cliff died
  14. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    Last album I purchased was either Garage Inc. or S&M. But both were purchased to listen to classic material one had hard to find ep material the other had reimaginings of classics.
  15. DanBass


    Jan 27, 2003
    Gainesville, FL
    Black album their "peak"? Blah.

    They lost me after Master.

    Give me City Gardens in NJ and the Kill Em All days...

    If I want thrash, I'll listen to Overkill and Exodus. :bassist:
  16. JLY

    JLY Supporting Member Supporting Member

    The Beatles may be the one band who did not hit their peak...we will never know
    Many say Rubber Soul or Sgt Pepper but Abbey Road is just as good if not better IMO
    As far as Metalica. I think they peaked with the Black Album and then as others have said-money and ego may have gotten in the way...and they were then writing from a different perspective....hard to as angry at the world or to view the world the same way after they became as successful as they became. Hard to blame them for that
  17. Marial

    Marial weapons-grade plum

    Apr 8, 2011
  18. Glenn77


    Feb 24, 2014
    Maybe its an era thing. The Black Album came out when I went into grade 9 and I discovered hard rock/metal at that time lol! So for me the Black album will be the standout for me.
  19. Glenn77


    Feb 24, 2014
    Beatles and add U2 to that also (sorry I love my boys from Dublin!) lol!
  20. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    ever since jason quit and they did that whiny documentary. so embarrassing. they're still good and their lives don't suck but they lost their hunger & that edge. they should start over.