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Mike Dirnt..

#21
Suprisingly, I dig him alot. Thats impressive as I really don't like Green Day that much. But I personally acredit him as the best bassist in 'Punk' right now, and probably the best in 'Punk' through the 90's. Or ever. Its a genre over saturated with bassists stuck on the root notes, and he does well to get away from that.

He reminds me of John Entwistle, in the sense that most fans who aren't bassists, or musicians at all, and just love the music, mistake his fills for Guitar lines. Billie Joe can't solo, but a lot of what Mike does underneath him might as well be a solo. I'm sure Billie gets a lot of credit where credit wasn't due from those who are unsuspecting.
 
#22
Dash Rantic said:
Sorry man, but a stupid statement like that makes you lose ALL points from me. There's plenty of upsides to pick playing, and plenty of downsides to fingerstyle.



-Dash
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Stupid comment? Relax buddy, I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me. I hate the sound of a pick on a bass, I don't need to justify that to you. Why would your opinion be more right than mine?

I thought the post was about Mike Dirnt.

Edit: And about your other comment about a handless bass player tapping strings to play? That's a HELL of a right hand technique.
 
#23
Well it's just that playing with a pick can be just as difficult as playing with your fingers if you need it to be. Mike Dirnt's pick doesn't make him not a good player, his lack of imagination does. Chris Chaney is one of the best rock bassists out right now, and he primarily plays with a pick. Most slapping from those fancy bassists might as well be using a pick anyways, I can't see how it's any different...'cept their pick is thick and fleshy.
 
#24
BassoProfondo said:
Stupid comment? Relax buddy, I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me. I hate the sound of a pick on a bass, I don't need to justify that to you. Why would your opinion be more right than mine?
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What you said before was that you though less of him as a player simply because of his right-hand technique--that's inarguably stupid, and quite arrogant. Now you say it's just that you "don't like the sound of a pick"--which is perfectly valid. So which is it?

Anyway, this is getting way too off-topic. I'm staying out of here now :)

-Dash
 
#25
BassoProfondo said:
Stupid comment? Relax buddy, I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me. I hate the sound of a pick on a bass, I don't need to justify that to you. Why would your opinion be more right than mine?

I thought the post was about Mike Dirnt.
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yes both of you gave opinions on things. but saying " No right hand technique." sounds like youre stating a fact on why playing with a pick is bad which is not true at all. if youre going to say you dont like him just because he uses a pick then fine thats your opinion. Dash was just trying to help you out. he was showing you that just because a person uses a pick DOESNT make him any less of a bassist. there are tons of pros and cons in both techniques, and going around here(talkbass) saying stuff thats pretty closed minded isnt going to get you any help. everyone is here to learn and get help and trade ideas.

in all.. im just saying keep this place a nice place for everyone and dont make comments like "I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me" because that just starts trouble. there wasnt any need to get offensive
 
#26
cowsgomoo said:
his bass playing works great for the band he's in...

and that's all you can ask of any bass player anywhere
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i agree here. who knows.. he could be a really great solo bassist but he's in green day.. and he needs to play the part for the band. having victor wooten doing all his stuff in a greenday song might not have the same effect in the band.. and might even be a bad thing. the thing is.. hes playing in a band and the band is what you tune into.
 
#27
Dash Rantic said:
What you said before was that you though less of him as a player simply because of his right-hand technique--that's inarguably stupid, and quite arrogant. Now you say it's just that you "don't like the sound of a pick"--which is perfectly valid. So which is it?

Anyway, this is getting way too off-topic. I'm staying out of here now :)

-Dash
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Are you thick or something??

The reasons are the same. You want it simpler? He uses a pick and loses respect from me, I don't like the sound of picks. Move on.
 
#28
diechris said:
yes both of you gave opinions on things. but saying " No right hand technique." sounds like youre stating a fact on why playing with a pick is bad which is not true at all. if youre going to say you dont like him just because he uses a pick then fine thats your opinion. Dash was just trying to help you out. he was showing you that just because a person uses a pick DOESNT make him any less of a bassist. there are tons of pros and cons in both techniques, and going around here(talkbass) saying stuff thats pretty closed minded isnt going to get you any help. everyone is here to learn and get help and trade ideas.

in all.. im just saying keep this place a nice place for everyone and dont make comments like "I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me" because that just starts trouble. there wasnt any need to get offensive
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First of all he called my opinion stupid, twice. That's where it starts.
So, when people comment about how crappy slapping sounds on every wooten thread, that's ok, and it's their opinion. But when I say I don't like picking, that's taboo?
Compare dirn't's picking to jaco's fingerstyle and graham's thumbing. two of them have a great right hand technique, the other does not.
 
#29
BassoProfondo said:
First of all he called my opinion stupid, twice. That's where it starts.
So, when people comment about how crappy slapping sounds on every wooten thread, that's ok, and it's their opinion. But when I say I don't like picking, that's taboo?
Compare dirn't's picking to jaco's fingerstyle and graham's thumbing. two of them have a great right hand technique, the other does not.
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"Compare dirn't's picking to jaco's fingerstyle and graham's thumbing"

take that and you start your own thread now. this thread was asking about just mike dirnt.
 
#31
BassoProfondo said:
BassSurfer, you're obviously a huge fan of Greenday and that's cool.

He uses a pick, loses points with me just based on that. No right hand technique.
He plays ok, nothing more to me. His playing fits the simple chords of Greenday. Compare him to a Mike Watt with the minutemen or firehose, and he doesn't register on the same scale to me.

If he's a "great" bassist, what does that make Larry Graham or Geddy Lee?
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bro listen. i see were your heading but i agree with the dude who said its thats not right... im not going to say stupid cause you have a right to your own opionon. you cannot judge a bassist for just using a pick.. and as i am saying for the 500th time you only know him for american idiot i see?

theve been a band since the late 80's im telling you take a listen to the old stuff man.. nothing recent. youll change your whole view..

and too all this may concern.. im sorry im a huge green day fan.. been with them since the early 90's and i just wantedt o see what others say about mike dirnt.. not to cause trouble or anything.;)
 
#32
this thread should be based on Mike Dirnt's older music, to tell you the truth as a huge green day fan..(i'm sorry to say i did bandwagon to a.i but like i luv their older stuff more).

I truly hate the bass playing in the american idiot album, Listen to international superhits (their lil best of...wel 21 songs aint little but yeah get me), great bass playing. Like JAR, Longview, Welcome to paradise bass solo, she, and many more. Yes you can disagree with me but thats just my opinion.

Cheers, Ben.
 
#33
BassSurfer said:
bro listen. i see were your heading but i agree with the dude who said its thats not right... im not going to say stupid cause you have a right to your own opionon. you cannot judge a bassist for just using a pick.. and as i am saying for the 500th time you only know him for american idiot i see?

theve been a band since the late 80's im telling you take a listen to the old stuff man.. nothing recent. youll change your whole view..

and too all this may concern.. im sorry im a huge green day fan.. been with them since the early 90's and i just wantedt o see what others say about mike dirnt.. not to cause trouble or anything.;)
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Greenday is a cool band. I listened to Greenday when dookie came out. Nothing leads me to think that dirnt was a better bass player before that...IMO. But I'm certain a lot of bass players think he's great because they imitate him.

Yes, I hold bassists who use a pick in less regard. I'd never judge a bass player solely on that though, I never said that I had no respect for him as a bass player. To me, he's not a special player.

I do like slap, and tapping can be impressive but I'm a fingerstyle purist. And yes, I can be arrogant, and close minded and completely wrong, so my $.02 may not even be worth that much.

If anyone thinks I'm stupid for it, thats fine, keep it to yourself since we're not discussing me here.

Mike Dirnt, continue :D
 
#35
Vindy, like the man is showing you, that's all you need to play the bass

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