Very nice. I really think one of the Super 12's could cover virtually everything I do nowadays.
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Mini Rigs of Doom Four
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Very nice. I really think one of the Super 12's could cover virtually everything I do nowadays.
Hi Chef,
What speaker cab is this and is this the same as the one Ken posted a couple of messages above?
Thanks...
That's an AudioKinesis TC115AF:
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I don't know if Ken's is the 112 or 115; can't tell from the pic and I believe he's had both, at points...
I have both the 112, and the 115, and both are pictured in my post, if you look carefully
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I don't know if Ken's is the 112 or 115; can't tell from the pic and I believe he's had both, at points...
I have both the 112, and the 115, and both are pictured in my post, if you look carefully
Ah... ok, thanks for that.
Actually, I haven't been paying much attention to the amp/speaker side of things of late, so these so called 'super' speakers/cabs (is that the correct term?
) are new to me. Got some catching up to do. 
Actually, I haven't been paying much attention to the amp/speaker side of things of late, so these so called 'super' speakers/cabs (is that the correct term?
) are new to me. Got some catching up to do.
Eminence 3012LF, 3015LF are two main players.
Much larger x-max than regular speakers, and thus the ability to move a lot more air.
3012HO and 3015 are two others.
There are many builders using these now.
Much larger x-max than regular speakers, and thus the ability to move a lot more air.
3012HO and 3015 are two others.
There are many builders using these now.
Ah... ok, thanks for that.
Actually, I haven't been paying much attention to the amp/speaker side of things of late, so these so called 'super' speakers/cabs (is that the correct term?
I think I actually coined that term, representing these new series of small 112 cabs based on the amazing Eminence 3012LF driver (a "PA grade' neo bass woofer), and some sort of high end crossover with a mid driver (like the Baer 12/6 and fEARful 12/6) or low crossed over horn like the Audiokenisis Thunderchild cabs.
They are 'super' because they handle a ton of power (not only thermally... i.e., the traditional cabinet power rating, but also 'mechanically'... they won't fart out until you push them to stupid levels). So, one of these little 12's gives you 210+ volume with much more true low end, and a more even, present midrange response.
Ya think? If ya can't 'carry' the whole shebang in one trip, it don't count. Using carts don't count. 'Carry' being the key word.Heh. I think some people take liberty with the meaning of the word "mini."
Oh, and nice rig!
Yeah, I've brought this up a few times before and been shut down for it... based on who considers what to be mini (which I thought would be resolved by the "rules of the game" above).
Anyway, FWIW, I don't see anything at all notable about a rig with a 410 (or a comparably sized cab combos) and a powerful head being particularly loud, and certainly wouldn't call it "mini", but to each their own.
This thread would hold a LOT more interest, IMHO, if we said you had to do it all with your hands and shoulders, and for more than a 5 foot walk through a door (in other words, you have to REALLY be able to carry it... like from a bus stop to a club down the street, etc)... NYC pick-up gig style, ya know?
Anyway, soapbox off, flack jacket on... again.
What was it about the Promethean you didn't like? That's one of the rigs I've been looking at, comparing it to the Genz Benz Shutte 10T and Ampeg Portaflex PF350/115. Soo, one of these will be my choice based on user reviews here...
Do you have to also be able to carry your bass and pedal train in the same trip? Or just the rig?
IMHO, it's coolest if it's literally "everything you need for the gig in one trip, carrying it all yourself".
For example, if you had a micro amp and a couple pedals, that'd fit in the gig bag with maybe some music and a few cords and pocket tuner, then you could carry a 110 or 112 in each hand. Or, single cab solution, with more outboard gear in the other hand, etc.
I put the Shuttle 6.0 in the L2K's gigbag, along with power and instrument cable and strap. I balance the 45 pound Bag End 15 on my head using the rear port as bracing. I then realize I forgot to put the gig bag around my shoulder, and drop the 15 to the ground. I then put the gig bag around my shoulder and re-balance the 15 on my head, as described above. I then squat down and attempt to lift the 78 pound Bag End 2x12 with both of my arms, and fall backwards onto the vocal monitor, rupturing my spleen. The 15 tumbles into the front row and crushes a pintglass someone had left there. I get up, screaming in pain, and re-gigbag, re-15 on head, and cut my foot on broken glass. I slowly climb back onto the stage and manage to lift the 2x12 without incident until I climb/fall down the stairs. I'm now in the hospital.
