Mistakes heard

[mpm32]

I miss when you used to be able to hear bass drum or hi-hat pedals squeaking. In one of the recordings of Sex machine you can hear the bass drum pedal squeaking happily throughout the whole song.

Although in that song it could've been intentional - sort of goes with the theme James had going.

 

[dmrogers]

Link Removed by Todd Rundgren.

I don't mind "mistakes" at all. To me, it's just the raw music, with a human element. I have never cared for over-polished music.

 

[Altitude]

People who use those names: Gay

Go watch "I Love You, Man" and let us know what you think.

 

[Doctor Flang]

I always thought that bass riff in "Fire" was intentional. Go figure.

I always wondered about the timing mentioned on "One Way Out". Wasn't sure if i just was counting wrong.

When i first heard "Fire" i was 14 and i noticed Noel making mistake but i didn't though of it as mistake. I think Mitch Mitchell covers it pretty well for Noel.

"One Way Out" was pretty easy to notice - but either Butch or JJ starts following Berry O. and it sounds REALLY strange for while. I'm glad they didn't try to fix it.

Gary Thain plays a pretty bad note on Miller Anderson's "Bright City".

 

[billy ayers]

jaco on "mood swings".. great slip-slidey g & b double stops over the A, punctuated insouciantly by the g# & c (aug. 5th) over the E!! always DUG that. really a "jaco in NYC" vibe. you can smell 6th ave. in that line! (if one wanted to do that)

 

[Altitude]

jaco on "mood swings".. great slip-slidey g & b double stops over the A, punctuated insouciantly by the g# & c (aug. 5th) over the E!! always DUG that. really a "jaco in NYC" vibe. you can smell 6th ave. in that line! (if one wanted to do that)

Amazingly, I already quoted Mood Swings earlier in the thread. What are the odds that two people would use such an obscure tune in a discussion like this? I think the double stop lick is deliberate, but he moves to the head a chorus early.

 

[johhn smith]

On the song " So What " from the album " Kind of Blue " by Miles Davis, there is a cymbal crash just after the intro and where Miles's trumpet comes in. Jimmy Cobb leans into the cymbal and it makes this huge splash and sizzles for quite a while. He said he thought he screwed up as he hit the cymbal way too hard and it literally explodes in that part of the track, but the funny thing is it really sounds great and is the perfect transition from the intro into the song. In retrospect he realized it is perfect, and sometimes these serendipitous mistakes are what really lift the tune into another dimension. Plus, on live recordings i would rather hear musicians make a few mistakes as this to me means they are pushing and really trying instead of playing it safe.

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

Listen to almost any album and you'll hear a handful of mistakes at least. I've heard everything from slightly sloppy playing to full-blown clams. Some of those mistakes have turned songs into magic.

and this right here is why i hate technology. it's made us lazy and superficial "perfectionists".
listen to Zeppelin's Since I've Been Loving You. Bonzo's kick pedal squeeks. loudly.
nowadays, that would have been removed digitally, or he would have been ordered to oil it and try tracking again afterwards.
but there it is. apparently, there was something so special and magical about that particular take that the engineer just had to keep it, warts and all!
music is about communication and interaction, and if the musicians never interact or communicate in the studio, the record will never sound "alive" (or good at all, IMO).

p.s. when Sting doubles his basslines on upright and electric, his intonation isn't always on!

 

[JimmyM]

Go watch "I Love You, Man" and let us know what you think.

I just read the synopsis. Me watching that movie is never going to happen. I'm so sick of this "bromance" crap. You have friends, you hang out with them, end of story. Man-dates...sheesh! Just cut off my genitals and give me some lipstick if I'm ever spotted watching that movie.

 

[Altitude]

I just read the synopsis. Me watching that movie is never going to happen. I'm so sick of this "bromance" crap. You have friends, you hang out with them, end of story. Man-dates...sheesh! Just cut off my genitals and give me some lipstick if I'm ever spotted watching that movie.

Plus, it has the biggest Rush geek-out subplot of any modern movie, which I'm thinking makes you want to see it even less!

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

on Derrick and the Domino's version of Layla, on the solo into the outro, Clapton (or whoever was playing the solo) missing the transition and slides down to the right note. i love it!

 

[NWB]

I just read the synopsis. Me watching that movie is never going to happen. I'm so sick of this "bromance" crap. You have friends, you hang out with them, end of story. Man-dates...sheesh! Just cut off my genitals and give me some lipstick if I'm ever spotted watching that movie.

I completely agree that the "bromance" stuff is a lot of crap. The movie storyline is pretty lame at that. But, it does have quite a few really funny gags in it. I thought it was darn funny, maybe because "man-dates" are so amazingly stupid.

 

[NWB]

Listen to almost any album and you'll hear a handful of mistakes at least. I've heard everything from slightly sloppy playing to full-blown clams. Some of those mistakes have turned songs into magic.

This is a great outlook.

A nice bit of wisdom here, Jimmy.

 

[JimmyM]

This is a great outlook.

A nice bit of wisdom here, Jimmy.

Better than my "bromance" rant?



Thanks, dude!

 

[phxlbrmpf]

My bet is that, at that point in his career, Lerxst did not understand what swung 8ths were. He just played what he thought was right.

This sort of thing always makes me cringe, it's seriously one of the worst rhythmic dissonances in existence. I once played a gig at a graduation party and the graduating class had thrown together a band which, among other songs, played "Walking on Sunshine" by Katrina and the Waves (i. e. the lamest 80s song ever) -- with a horn section because they thought it was a good idea for some reason. While the song sounded okay when they were doing their sound check, during the real gig, they repeated the final chorus a bunch and then the drummer decided to do the "go half time" thing and everyone else, except the horns, repeating the chorus riff, dropped out.

If you're familiar with the song, you probably know that it has this sorta shuffle rhythm, which, of course was still there in half time. Except the drummer didn't seem to think so and played completely even 16ths while the horns were repeating the chorus riff like they did before. It was one of the worst things I'd ever heard in my life.

 

[lunarpollen]

There's a definite bad note bass flub in "Can't You See That She's Mine" by the Dave Clark Five. That was the first song that came to mind....

 

[capnsandwich]

Sometimes I'll be listening to the radio and I can hear the Auto Tune correcting someone's pitch. Either someone doesn't care or someone doesn't know how to use Auto Tune.

 

[JimmyM]

This sort of thing always makes me cringe, it's seriously one of the worst rhythmic dissonances in existence.

Yeah, but there's times it can work. If you ever heard "At The Hop" by Danny and the Juniors, you'll notice that the piano plays straight 8th notes and the drummer swings. Our drummer used to get into arguments with them (he was their MD at one time and they're still our good friends) about it because he thought the drummer was straight, too, but sure enough he swings. That rhythmic dissonance is cool as hell in that particular instance.

 

[JimmyM]

Sometimes I'll be listening to the radio and I can hear the Auto Tune correcting someone's pitch. Either someone doesn't care or someone doesn't know how to use Auto Tune.

A little of both, although I'd replace "doesn't care" with "doesn't notice it."

 

[Bassin']

Listen to the bass line on the beginning of Earth Wind & Fire's, September. I'm not sure if it's a recording or a bass playing glitch but on the second beat of measure seven, something went wrong.