In Modest Mouse's 'King Rat' the second verse where the guitars come in there's one of too bum notes on the bass that you can hardly notice because the guitars outshine it in that part. it kinda almost works in the context of that song..
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Mistakes heard
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I flubbed a little intro line on a track on the second psychodots record (inadvertently hit an open D on a C# major), and the band liked it so much they not only wouldn't let me repair it...they demanded I play it that way live. 
You can hear Bill Bruford drop a stick at the big ending of Larks Tongues in Aspic Pt. II - that's long been a favorite of mine. I totally agree perfection can be boring.
You can hear Bill Bruford drop a stick at the big ending of Larks Tongues in Aspic Pt. II - that's long been a favorite of mine. I totally agree perfection can be boring.
Not sure if it's a mistake or on purpose, but in Grand Funk's "I'm Your Captain/Closer to Home", about :52 in, you can hear someone in the background say "alright"
That happens on "Jailhouse Rock", too... if my memory is correct, the drummer and bassist swing and the guitarist plays straight 8ths. It's great.
Some New Orleans drummers, like the great Zig Modeliste, can play a groove which is sort of in the cracks between straight 8ths and swinging 8ths, and I love that, too.
Based on the examples you gave, it seems to work when the rhythm section is working together and playing in the same type of "feel" and someone else adds a different feel on top of what they're doing.
I think there's also a couple Chili Peppers songs that have shuffled 16ths while the guitar plays even 16ths occasionally, and if the Peppers are doing it in their funk-influenced songs it's pretty much guaranteed that the funk bands they ripped o-, I mean have been influenced by liked to do the same thing.
I think there's also a couple Chili Peppers songs that have shuffled 16ths while the guitar plays even 16ths occasionally, and if the Peppers are doing it in their funk-influenced songs it's pretty much guaranteed that the funk bands they ripped o-, I mean have been influenced by liked to do the same thing.
Ya, music from New Orleans is full of that kind of stuff. One of my favorite songs is "Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu" by Huey "Piano" Smith. The Johnny Rivers version wasn't nearly as cool because of the way Huey played straight and the drummer swung it.
I may be wrong on this one, but...
On Bowie's "Jean Genie", Ronson seems to go up to the 4 chord early...then you hear Bowie say what sounds like, "Get back on it!". It then goes into the chorus.
It's at :37. Give it a listen...I'd like to know if that's actually what he says or if I'm nuts.
On Bowie's "Jean Genie", Ronson seems to go up to the 4 chord early...then you hear Bowie say what sounds like, "Get back on it!". It then goes into the chorus.
It's at :37. Give it a listen...I'd like to know if that's actually what he says or if I'm nuts.
I'm gonna take it in the neck for this one, but to me, just about any solo ever played by Jimmy Page sounds like it is laced with mistakes.... IMHO!
Sloppiness personified!
Fishheadjoe
Sloppiness personified!
Fishheadjoe
I know some of the live "Hello it's me" recordings are somewhat sloppy but the Something/Anything one? The one recorded with the session musicians?
I would recommend in this age of Melodyne/AutoTune/Logic Pro Flex et rest to make albums that are unique from beginning to end. And I'm the biggest sinner as I use Logic's Flex all the time.
Biggest one I can think of is in the final Chorus/Reprise of "Daydream Believer" (Monkees)
Listen to the backline.. they totally nosedive If I remember correctly it's a dissonant 5 played over the 4 chord.. out of time/groove even... it's an in your face up and center razberry
I'm sure the risk of fixing it was more than the security of being done with it.
I'm always amazed the remasters keep it in.
Listen to the backline.. they totally nosedive If I remember correctly it's a dissonant 5 played over the 4 chord.. out of time/groove even... it's an in your face up and center razberry
I'm sure the risk of fixing it was more than the security of being done with it.
I'm always amazed the remasters keep it in.
scottbass
Bass lines like a big, funky giant
Wow - 5 pages and no one yet has mentioned the breakdown in the Kingsmens' "Louie Louie". Coming out of the solo, the vocals do a false start, the drummer throws in a fill to attempt to cover it, the bass gets confused and loses synch. My last classic rock band spent a lot of time LEARNING how to play those mistakes exactly as they occurred on the original recording.
That's a whole different conversation - what tunes have you spent interminable amounts of time learning, knowing fully that the studio recording is the only time the original band probably ever played it that way?
I don't belong to the "Page is Sloppy" club any more. A couple of his songs have clinkers (mostly fret noise and hanging notes), but every solo??! Most of his stuff is pretty polished.
Admittedly, Led Zep I and II have rough spots (the "Heartbreaker" solo comes to mind) that they probably decided were not bad enough to do over. Those albums were made quickly, and on a small budget.
Right, and another example is the version of "Hey Pocky Way" on the Wild Tchoupitoulas (spelling?) album. Actually, Zig Modeliste (and the rest of the Meters) play on that one. It's a swung Bo Diddley beat, but on his drum break Zig somehow guides it halfway toward a straight 8th feel...
Well, anyway, NOT a mistake. (We're derailing the thread here...)
Blue Moose,
I listened to that record yesterday, and I don't think you're nuts. It's definitely a mistake, and I think you're right about what Bowie says.
I've noticed that before, but never put it all together.
Right, and another example is the version of "Hey Pocky Way" on the Wild Tchoupitoulas (spelling?) album. Actually, Zig Modeliste (and the rest of the Meters) play on that one. It's a swung Bo Diddley beat, but on his drum break Zig somehow guides it halfway toward a straight 8th feel...
Well, anyway, NOT a mistake. (We're derailing the thread here...)
On Amos Garret's DVD from Homespun tapes, he has some
interesting comments on this. 'Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits'
the Bo Diddley beat should only be played by one player. The
bass and drummer should play it straight. In his HO.
If they don't, and all players are doing that beat (ex.
Not Fade Away Stones version iirc), he calls the resulting mess
'The Garage Band Lurch'. lol.
I've always wondered about the drums on the last (i think) chorus of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. To me it sounds like Bill Ward drops the ball for a second....
Also right after the last crazy slide solo in "In My Time Of Dying" Jonsey & Bonham take a sec to get back into the main riff when Page plays it. I'm guessing the basics of that track were cut live & they just kept it because of the great energy.
Also right after the last crazy slide solo in "In My Time Of Dying" Jonsey & Bonham take a sec to get back into the main riff when Page plays it. I'm guessing the basics of that track were cut live & they just kept it because of the great energy.
Alvaro Martín Gómez A.
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In my opinion, Tom Hamilton played the fill starting at 0:08 longer (half a 6/8 measure) than intended (or started playing it half a measure later).
In my opinion, Tom Hamilton played the fill starting at 0:08 longer (half a 6/8 measure) than intended (or started playing it half a measure later).
