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Modern "Country"

No one said have to. If you want to play pretend and wear a cowboy hat go for it. I love teasing people about them because they get so butt hurt so fast about something as pointless as head gear.

"but it's a better option than a lot of the "2000 and #$%ing 14" looks you are likely a fan of.."
Yeah, I like super weird stuff like t-shirts and jeans. That's some whacky @%&ing stuff right there.
So you like dressing like an irrelvant slob? But, most people do these days.
Don't care whether you like cowboy hats or not. I am offended by you attitude.
 
I won't deny you gave a great example, but I don't know if it is representative of popular country new and old. I will admit that with older country I only know what was on the radio, but we did have a good time back then making fun of the crappy lyrics. And Country, for me, was ubiquitous to growing up in Oklahoma for sure. Though, I don't know the two songs you gave and would have to say even with crappy lyrics I might prefer to listen to one over the other depending on the hook and instrumentation. Some of the most beautifully lyrical songs in history don't get my foot moving.

The first song IMHO is one of the greatest country songs ever written, especially when Waylon Jennings sings it. The second is random radio drivel that they are playing these days. But I can I can go all day with great lyrics in old country songs, compared to unintelligent nonsense in modern country, but not the other way around.

So which would you rather listen to depending on the hook and instrumentation?



 
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I think you nailed it. It's not so much the change in music that is the problem.. Country and Rock were destined to start overlapping. Country stars today grew up on Skynyrd just as much as Hank Jr.. I did, anyway. Not to mention the CDB examples I posted.. It's more rock than country without the lyrics.

The issue is the lame ass lyrics like that Luke Bryan song. I would be so embarrassed to be in his band or any part of that. There is no substance to him or that music. He apparently is top dog right now, but he will fade away into history soon enough.
 
I will add that a few weeks ago, the CMT Country Music awards were on at my father in laws house while I was there. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't watched any awards show since 1994 (MTV). But it was on for a couple hours and turned up pretty loud (long story, my father n law is very sick). I absolutely could not sit in the room and listen to it.. The camera was on Luke Bryan every 20 sec, D Bently played some song about getting drunk on a plane, and on and on. It was absolutely horrible, and I went to a back bedroom to watch Dora with my daughter LOUD to drown out the CMT awards show. It was unwatchable.. I'd rather watch Barney than that crap.


And I am a country music fan!! Not hardcore, but I dig Waylon, Hank Jr, etc..
 
The first song IMHO is one of the greatest country songs ever written, especially when Waylon Jennings sings it. The second is random radio drivel that they are playing these days. But I can I can go all day with great lyrics in old country songs, compared to unintelligent nonsense in modern country, but not the other way around.

So which would you rather listen to depending on the hook and instrumentation?






Well, that choice is kinda hard to make a decision on. The Waylon song is a great example of the country that I just can't listen too, no energy and evokes no emotions in me other than how fast can I turn the channel - though I am 45 it still makes me think of what my parents would listen to. However, I think the luke song is even worse, and I could never stand his voice at all, the instrumentation is horrible. How about these -


 
And several mentions of Southern Rock, which in many ways is kinda in the middle of all this transition. How bout these guys;
My originals band is a lot like this in style, lyrics etc.
 
And as far as lyrics, this song does not mention beer, chicks, trucks etc. It however does mention things that we can all relate to and in a way that makes many want to sing along and dance to.


 
So you like dressing like an irrelvant slob? But, most people do these days.
Don't care whether you like cowboy hats or not. I am offended by you attitude.

I don't want to make this a thing, but:
1.) Irrelevant not "irrelvant". Phones and all major browsers have spell checking built in.
2.) "So you like dressing like an irrelvant slob? But, most people do these days." You just contradicted yourself. If most people, including faux cowboys, wear t-shirts and jeans, then it isn't irrelevant.
3.) If we get started on the list of things I do that offends people, we are going to be here a while. Look, if I say "I think cowboy hats are dumb" and someone responds "I don't think there dumb"; OK cool. Wear your damn hat. But if the response is "You better keep that to yourself or you'll get beat." Then I guarantee you, every single time, my response is going to be "@$& you and anyone that looks like you." If someone wants to puff up their chest and play macho man over something like headwear, then they need to examine their priorities a little. There are a lot of things to get offended about in life, put personal preference in hats ain't one of them.

Bottom line: If you like your hat, whatever, just don't expect me to like it or care how much you like it. I've never cared if other people like what I like, and frankly its a pretty good place to be. People straight up hate things I like; I am Jack's complete lack of caring.
 
Around here, what see/hear aplenty is what I think is called Nouveau (hipster) Bluegrass derivates. Not sure where that fits in the debate.


Very popular stuff, and really offends the classic bluegrass folks. They don't want bluegrass to talk about smoking weed what so ever I have found. The thing is, nothing stays the same and if you get too caught up in what was once you don't get to enjoy some really good new stuff. There is always crap no matter what year one talks about though.
 
It's more country and hip-hop that started overlapping, especially in terms of image and lyrics.


I think they started there and then delved into other genres like pop and rock and have successfully created the most listened to "main stream" music there is now. They have absolutely destroyed rock and roll and are dang close to outdoing pop as well.
 
Well, that choice is kinda hard to make a decision on. The Waylon song is a great example of the country that I just can't listen too, no energy and evokes no emotions in me other than how fast can I turn the channel - though I am 45 it still makes me think of what my parents would listen to. However, I think the luke song is even worse, and I could never stand his voice at all, the instrumentation is horrible. How about these -




I cant stomach Jason Aldean
 
I cant stomach Jason Aldean


No worries, all music is not for everyone. But the topic was about how crappy modern lyrics are compared to "the day"; I just wonder if these song examples fit into that generalization. To me they may not be poetry of the ages, but they are not horrible by any means either. I would say they are perfectly fine and can elicit emotions; Tattoos on this Town certainly reminds me of growing up. I never called the older stuff drivel or any other negative description, just that "I" did not like it. If we stayed there we can agree but to put down an entire movement and evolution in music is to me inappropriate. Though, I must admit I referred to modern rock as crap, so I guess I cannot get to hard on ya :smug: It's all good in the end, listen to what ya like there's lots out there old and new.
 
I am surprised at the gastric reflux-inducing qualities of some of this music.

I view Modern Country songs much like I view pop songs on the radio.

Some are thoughtful and worth the listen, most are drivel. That applies equally to country and pop, or country pop, which is what most of us don't much care for.

I'm an old fart, so I don't much listen to pop stations anymore, but I know and appreciate acts like Black Keys much more than folks like Robin Thicke (yeeeech).

Some country folks are brilliant songwriters, excellent musicians, and some are superficial, insipid, and downright boring.

I listen to The Highway a lot on Sirius/XM, and I know the songs and artists I'm going to listen to, and those I can just skip right on by.

People I listen to:
Brad Paisley
Keith Urban
Zac Brown Band
Dierks Bentley (some)
Carrie Underwood (guilty pleasure)
Tim McGraw (some)
Jason Aldean (just to listen to Tully, who's brilliant)
Eli Young Band
The Band Perry (some, they need more than 2 songs for radio to play)
Jake Owen


People that get the immediate heave-ho:
Florida Georgia Line
Darius Rucker
Eric Church
Luke Bryan
Colt Ford (really hate, can't sing, that's why he raps, he admits it)
Cole Swindell
Blake Shelton
Miranda Lambert
Little Big Town
Taylor Swift
Kacey Musgraves
Lee Brice (really hate)
Lady Antebellum (ever since they fired their old bass player, all their songs now sound the same)
 
I also, WAY OT, but I am also really glad there are acts out there trying to re-create acoustic/americana stuff that's being put out there. And yes, the classic bluegrass people just hate hate hate it, bands like:
Mumfords (but way overdone)
Lumineers
The Head and the Heart
Of Monsters and Men
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes
Amos Lee
Ray La Montagne
Avett Brothers
 
No worries, all music is not for everyone. But the topic was about how crappy modern lyrics are compared to "the day"; I just wonder if these song examples fit into that generalization. To me they may not be poetry of the ages, but they are not horrible by any means either. I would say they are perfectly fine and can elicit emotions; Tattoos on this Town certainly reminds me of growing up. I never called the older stuff drivel or any other negative description, just that "I" did not like it. If we stayed there we can agree but to put down an entire movement and evolution in music is to me inappropriate. Though, I must admit I referred to modern rock as crap, so I guess I cannot get to hard on ya :smug: It's all good in the end, listen to what ya like there's lots out there old and new.

I can say that I have a pretty good perspective on it, because, growing up, my parents never listened to country, and I never really listened to it at all until very recently. So my opinions are not really influenced by the fact it is what I grew up listening to it. I pretty much discovered Vince Gill, Keith Whitley, Waylon Jennings, George Strait, George Jones, James Earl Conely, ect. at the same time that most of these modern guys were on the radio. A couple of years ago I heard Vince Gill's "Take Your Memory With You When You Go" on a TV show, and that is pretty much what got me into country. Even though before that I played a few country songs with my last band. There are a few good modern guys, Brad Paisley is extremely talented, but his songs still pander to this modern, simple minded, every song needs a gimmick style that is being produced today. Zac Brown Band has some very good songs, and they are great musicians.