Huh. I own a Warmoth with a Bart NTMB (3.4) preamp and Bart MV52CBJD (quad-coil soapbar) pickup and the tone is absolutely killer: Warm, clear, liquid, organic, fat & punchy & articulate without being too harsh or crunchy... It was primarily that bass (plus all the Pedullas I've played over the years) that makes me think a Modulus with Bart pickups & preamps would be an awesome combination.
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Huh. I own a Warmoth with a Bart NTMB (3.4) preamp and Bart MV52CBJD (quad-coil soapbar) pickup and the tone is absolutely killer: Warm, clear, liquid, organic, fat & punchy & articulate without being too harsh or crunchy... It was primarily that bass (plus all the Pedullas I've played over the years) that makes me think a Modulus with Bart pickups & preamps would be an awesome combination.
Very possible. I can say the only modulus I have played with Bart and Bart was a flea bass and it sounded terrible. Either all mud or all treble. So yes terrible mids
Bartolini makes a lot of differently voiced pickups, I’m sure there are some that work better than others.
i have Bart 3 band pre’s in several of my basses (although I switched my Q5 to EMG) and I think it’s a great, neutral preamp. Even when i had it in my Q5, I thought it worked well, and I was happy with the mids (had the push/pull freq select)- I had one time where I was using an amp and couldn’t figure out where the volume knob was (older mesa combo, 12 identical knobs- turns out it was the bottom row, second from the right- very intuitive
), so i just turned the mids up and was able to be heard just fine...
i have Bart 3 band pre’s in several of my basses (although I switched my Q5 to EMG) and I think it’s a great, neutral preamp. Even when i had it in my Q5, I thought it worked well, and I was happy with the mids (had the push/pull freq select)- I had one time where I was using an amp and couldn’t figure out where the volume knob was (older mesa combo, 12 identical knobs- turns out it was the bottom row, second from the right- very intuitive
), so i just turned the mids up and was able to be heard just fine...
I have, just this week, sold my Pedulla Pentabuzz (well, it's waiting to be packaged and shipped but otherwise as good as sold). I thought that the Bartolini P/J and preamp combo worked really well there. It was the three knob set up with the active tone control, which I tended to leave flat or about 10% into either boost or cut, I always tended to add a few upper mids at the amp. The voicing just worked well, resulting in a bass that sounded great on it's own and even better in a band context. I have always maintained that Bartolini sound good in the bedroom but brilliant in the mix, where they really 'fit' in a musical sense that makes carving out a distinct sonic niche for the bass guitar an easy task.
As mentioned above though, sometimes they just don't work. That Zoot I had should have sounded immense, with a carbon fibre neck, brass nut and solid maple body. In reality it sounded a bit dead, with no real burpy midrange for me to get hold of. The Pedulla, comparing fretless to fretless, sounded miles better. I would still be quite happy with Barts in a Modulus simply because I have had success more often than not when choosing Barts.
I had a thunderbass with the older three knob configuration and it was brilliant. Personally love the three knob pedulla. I only sold it because I wasn’t playing 5 string that much. Still regret selling that bass all the time. It’s one that shouldn’t have left
Sending you a PManyone here have Jerry Dorsch email address that they could PM me if not wanting to post it here? Time for a refret and a some work on my 91 Q5 that I bought new
Pm sentanyone here have Jerry Dorsch email address that they could PM me if not wanting to post it here? Time for a refret and a some work on my 91 Q5 that I bought new
I installed big splits in one of my quantums. They were super brittle sounding. Too much treble for me. Also, one thing that was annoying was the magnet pull on the strings was a lot stronger so it made my strings buzz no matter what I did. Ymmv.
Hey guys, it's been a long time since I've been in the forums here. Miss y'all
Anyways, I am having a problem that I know a lot of you have seen before: delamination on the neck finish. It manifests at the edge of the fretboard and seems to be worsening over time. It's actually starting to happen to my other moddy too, they might have fallen victim to humidity this past summer.
Does anybody know a fix for this? I've heard of using high viscosity super glue under the delaminated part but I honestly don't know if I trust myself to do it. I'm not against taking it somewhere but I just don't have a lot to spend currently. I've thought about possibly just removing the parts of the finish that have separated from the neck (with a razor) and just coating the edges with clear nail polish or something and hoping that it doesn't progress beyond that.
Any help here would be super appreciated.
Anyways, I am having a problem that I know a lot of you have seen before: delamination on the neck finish. It manifests at the edge of the fretboard and seems to be worsening over time. It's actually starting to happen to my other moddy too, they might have fallen victim to humidity this past summer.
Does anybody know a fix for this? I've heard of using high viscosity super glue under the delaminated part but I honestly don't know if I trust myself to do it. I'm not against taking it somewhere but I just don't have a lot to spend currently. I've thought about possibly just removing the parts of the finish that have separated from the neck (with a razor) and just coating the edges with clear nail polish or something and hoping that it doesn't progress beyond that.
Any help here would be super appreciated.
Had same problem on my '94 Q5. Maybe not an issue for some but
caused some annoyance during playing for me. Research including
Geoff Gould input indicated a possible lack of proper pre Polyurethane
application treatment on the graphite neck during production.
Some suggested the cyanoacrylate fix which was fine if only a one- time
application but would likely necessitate repeated attempts. I elected to
have my tech completely remove the poly coating from the back of the neck
leaving only the peg head and top base of the neck intact- those areas
showing serial number and Modulus logos. The result was a perfect satin
finish which I'm extremely happy with. Plays fast and effortlessly.
Graphite neck peeling off (Modulus bass)
caused some annoyance during playing for me. Research including
Geoff Gould input indicated a possible lack of proper pre Polyurethane
application treatment on the graphite neck during production.
Some suggested the cyanoacrylate fix which was fine if only a one- time
application but would likely necessitate repeated attempts. I elected to
have my tech completely remove the poly coating from the back of the neck
leaving only the peg head and top base of the neck intact- those areas
showing serial number and Modulus logos. The result was a perfect satin
finish which I'm extremely happy with. Plays fast and effortlessly.
Graphite neck peeling off (Modulus bass)
GeoffGould
Commercial User
Have you tried moving the pickups farther away from the strings?
Holy cow... Did anyone catch the Monocoque 6 on the bay?? It went for over $2300!!!
GeoffGould
Commercial User
Geetar Vintage 1983 Modulus Graphite Flight 6 Monocoque Headless Electric Guitar U.S.A. | eBay Still sad I missed out on the genesis 3SH oh well looked to be a bit beat up.
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In my quest to tame my Quantum 5 down a bit while having better control over the mids, I think I might have finally found a good setup with the EMG BQC system and EMG 40CS pickups. They are supposed to be a lot smoother in the mids and highs, and so far I'm hearing that. At 18v there is very clean headroom boosting any of the frequencies and it doesn't feel like it gets boomy on the bass side.
The ACG preamp that I had been using and was sold to me by a generous member here, was very nice with lots of tones to be found, but just wasn't going to work for me to make quick changes live. The stock Bart pickups to my ears are also too upper midrange honky sounding with either the ACG or the stock Bart NTMBT preamp that came with the bass. Warm is not in their vocabulary, but they don't have a problem projecting through the mix even if you're trying to not be forward. That works for some people, but not me.
Going from Barts to EMG is a fairly easy, almost solder-less install. I just had to create one connection that turned it from 9v to 18v, which is recommended in their instructions. Overall, time will tell, but it feels a lot more controllable now.
The ACG preamp that I had been using and was sold to me by a generous member here, was very nice with lots of tones to be found, but just wasn't going to work for me to make quick changes live. The stock Bart pickups to my ears are also too upper midrange honky sounding with either the ACG or the stock Bart NTMBT preamp that came with the bass. Warm is not in their vocabulary, but they don't have a problem projecting through the mix even if you're trying to not be forward. That works for some people, but not me.
Going from Barts to EMG is a fairly easy, almost solder-less install. I just had to create one connection that turned it from 9v to 18v, which is recommended in their instructions. Overall, time will tell, but it feels a lot more controllable now.
Nah, the guitar. I was really hoping to land one, but a bit high up there for a guitar that would sit. Since I have the Flight 4SP and Flight 6SP, it would really be cool to have both the Monocoque guitar and bass as well.
