• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

More Fly Craziness....

FYI, that is a 1/4"/Speakon hybrid connector (as is the one on the M-line Wizzy, and some other EA cabs, in case anyone has one). You can use either a 1/4" or Speakon-equipped speaker cable. :)

Thanks Tom...noticed that AFTER I had already built the Speakon cables. :)

Only took 5 minutes and I prefer Speakon connectors anyway, as I'm sure you do as well.
 
I'm seriously considering picking one of these up as a backup for my iAMP. Both the cabs I use are 4ohm (EA and Yamaha), so I could get the full 500w without any problem. Hmmmm......



Okay, so for those who have played both--should I grab the Superfly for $300, or the Yamaha BBT-500 for $350?

I'm the opposite of Tom...I returned the Yamaha and will probably keep the Superfly. The Yamaha sounds better...it has amazingly good modeled tones. And it's awesome if you're a knob tweaker. But I kept getting that annoying hiss out of my cabs with it, so I sold it.

I'm going to keep the Superfly and run it with my Yamaha Magicstomp EB...best of both worlds (since the Magicstomp has all the preamp models of the BBT500H).
 
Here's an email I received from Martin Burrows at Ashdown. Does this make sense? Seems contadictory.:hmm:

Hi Michael
To reach the full power, yes you need to have either 2 x 4 ohm cabs ( one each side ) or 2 x 8 ohm cabs per side = 4 ohms total per side. If you run 2 x 8 ohm cabs one side you will get 250 watts, if you run 1 x 8 ohm per side you will get slightly more, around 300 watts per side.
Regards
Martin
 
quad you got yours yesterday?? right ?
what do you think ?

Well, I got home late and had to help my kids with a bunch of school work (science fair) and I only had about 10 min with it. Initial impressions (not really fair to say much right now):

1 - It's smaller than I thought it was going to be (a good thing).

2 - It feels heavy for it's size (15ish lbs packed into a little package). I know losing the outter cover drops 5ish lbs.

3 - Sounded "OK", but I was hoping it was going to be a little warmer. Again, on this one, I REALLY need more time with it to say anything further. I went thru about a dozen pre-sets. I'll spend more time with her over the next day or two. I'll prob take her to rehersal tomorrow eve.

4 - I was expecting more volume. Granted I omly used one cab last night - a Yamaha BBT110 (1x10). I find this cab not to be very effcient and given the fact I was only running one of the two amps in the head, it kind of adds up, but I have heard a louder 250 watts from other heads on this same cab. I only pushed the master to 2 or 3 o'clock (and gain about 2 or 3 o'clock as well). Mybe the head REALLY opens up past 3 o'clock? I can also try my Epifani cabs on the head which are more efficient.

5 - I found the head very versatile from the presets I tried. It's also cool having a compressor onboard, but what little I played with it, I found the Yamaha BBT500H compressor more impressive (I find that compressor more impressive than most built in compressors).

6 - I did notice some hiss. Reminds me of the Yamaha there (hisses also). Wonder if this is an overall issue on some of these first gen digital head by some manufactures??
 
So I got mine today and played it with the Pbass and the Berg ministack, so I wasn't exactly maximizing my watts. However, I don't think power is necessarily the problem here.

There is a little hiss going, but its minimized when I start playing. For me, the main problem is that I just don't see the point. It would be one thing if it had some built in effects or something, but I really don't understand/have the need to drastically change my EQ on the fly(no pun intended). I don't see an advantage of having this with a digital interface.

I am in general not a big knob tweaker, so perhaps I should have realized this was not for me beforehand. To me it sounds like any other average solid state amp, and it behaves the same too. Only difference is I am looking at lights instead of sliders. Even if it had a more normal power output, it wouldn't make much difference for me.

I guess for the 20 bucks its going to cost me to ship it back in a few days it was worth it as i have always wanted to play around with one.