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More Sheldon Dingwall and Tone Wood
- Thread starter Dr. Cheese
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I just heard an opinion from someone who's marketing his gear.
Let's see the density difference picked out in a (well done) blind test, all else being equal.
Let's see the density difference picked out in a (well done) blind test, all else being equal.
I had a 5 string neck-thru that I hadn't played in a long time. So, I cut the maple body wings off, made new ones that were mahogany on the back half and walnut on the front. Peeled off the rosewood FB and made a new one from wenge. Put it all back together, reinstalled all the original pups and electronics and guess what,......
I still sucked.
I still sucked.
I wasn't gonna watch the vid because, well, I've seen a few and I don't wanna seem like I'm trying to hurt someone's business by saying they're fulla malarkey,......but,...
I guess that would be useful if you mic'd up that wood and played it like bongos
Oh well, at least I got a good chuckle this time. Last time I saw a video of someone knocking on a hunk of wood like an idiot (or should I say, like they thought everyone watching was an idiot), I got upset.
Now I just think it's funny
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I guess that would be useful if you mic'd up that wood and played it like bongos
Oh well, at least I got a good chuckle this time. Last time I saw a video of someone knocking on a hunk of wood like an idiot (or should I say, like they thought everyone watching was an idiot), I got upset.
Now I just think it's funny
.You post, you have to expect the comments. I'm sure it's going to reinforce the biases of those that already agree, and might sway a few who believe the tales.
Dude has managed to create distinctive instruments in a market still dominated by seventy and sixty year old designs. All of the great luthiers talk a lot about wood, not just Sheldon Dingwall. I am not going to say any businessman is above marketing, but I do not think I know more about wood than they do.
Dude sells A LOT of NICE well made high end, well respected basses...
So?
Appeal to authority.
Once those two pieces of ash are joined together and turned into a body with a uniform poly finish, I have serious doubts many would be able to hear a difference in tone coming from the two different sides of the body, especially from pickups with a mono output that I can only guess would be mounted traditionally in the center.
I still say there's are far bigger differences in tone among neck and fretboard woods vs. body woods.
YMMV.
I still say there's are far bigger differences in tone among neck and fretboard woods vs. body woods.
YMMV.
Every dingwall bass I've played has been top notch. No snake oil in the basses I played.
Logical fallacy; false dilemna.
I never said the basses weren't good, I'm just not accepting that the split density of body woods makes a repeatedly detectable, and positive tonal difference, based simply on someone who is selling a product says so. For all I know he honestly believes it, but it doesn't mean he's correct and his word needs to be accepted because of that. I see no actual evidence, just assertion.
Thank you for allowing me to form my own opinions based upon evidence.
Every single part of an instrument plays a part to some extent in the sound that it produces. Some parts when changed will not be noticeable to 99.99% of listeners.
Other parts will have a larger effect on sound.
I'd like to see some blind tests between bodies with bookmatched pieces of the same piece of wood, and those with different densities.
Other parts will have a larger effect on sound.
I'd like to see some blind tests between bodies with bookmatched pieces of the same piece of wood, and those with different densities.
It makes sense to me. Maybe saying "wood X sounds this way and wood Y sound that way" is an oversimplification, but the construction and it's stiffness in different parts of a bass do matter.
An example: there must be a reason why a Fender Flea Active Jazz, the MM copy, has 22 frets instead of a standard 20 for a Jazz Bass. The neck joint is moved a little, just like in MMs, and it has SOME effect on the overall sound.
If the construction would not matter, we would all be playing some comfortable basses with small bodies and 24 frets and we would only change the pickups.
An example: there must be a reason why a Fender Flea Active Jazz, the MM copy, has 22 frets instead of a standard 20 for a Jazz Bass. The neck joint is moved a little, just like in MMs, and it has SOME effect on the overall sound.
If the construction would not matter, we would all be playing some comfortable basses with small bodies and 24 frets and we would only change the pickups.
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The placebo effect is so powerful it can even repair damaged body tissues as well as orthoscopic surgery.
This means that if the builder or player of an instrument believes tone woods make a difference, someone else’s contrary opinion is quite immaterial.
All the more reason to the play what you like
This means that if the builder or player of an instrument believes tone woods make a difference, someone else’s contrary opinion is quite immaterial.
All the more reason to the play what you like
