more streamliner 900 tone voicing tests

[CormacBass]

I own a Streamliner 900 and uber 410. I'm having trouble with my live tone.
When I'm at home I can get a great sound but when I put it in a live situation it isn't working.
The drummer has said several times that he's "swimming in bass" and the guitarist has mentioned that my 200hz is filling the stage and making everything less clear.
I've tried all eq settings mentioned on streamliner threads but can't seem to get it right.

A possible solution I can think of would be to replace the uber 410 cab with two smaller cabs, possibly a 112 and 115, I'd angle the 112 at my head and I'd put the 115 in front of the stage with the PA speakers.

I'm going to try an eq3b first though and see if that solves the problem.

This thread has been really helpful.

 

[Not yet]

I own a Streamliner 900 and uber 410. I'm having trouble with my live tone.
When I'm at home I can get a great sound but when I put it in a live situation it isn't working.

The drummer has said several times that he's "swimming in bass" and the guitarist has mentioned that my 200hz is filling the stage and making everything less clear.
I've tried all eq settings mentioned on streamliner threads but can't seem to get it right.

This thread has been really helpful.

What are your settings? Missed if stated earlier, .....

Had same issues until someone here recommended almost diming the (pre) volume, mid on 600. Sounds strange, but from that day been able to small tweak exactly the sounds I want and totally cut thru while filling bottom in 3 pc Blues/Rock band.

Holds it all together whatever the venue size

 

[CormacBass]

I'll this a go this evening! What are the exact settings you use?
Gain at 12? Pre Volume around 9?
Do you have to dip the bass right down?

 

[boethius]

I'll this a go this evening! What are the exact settings you use?
Gain at 12? Pre Volume around 9?
Do you have to dip the bass right down?

I use gain at 3, volume at 3 bass around 9 or 10, mids (depending on bass) either 220 on 2 or 2.5 on 9 or 10, treble on 11, master to taste. That's through an uber 115, and the mids you may have to treat differently to taste. Works great for me for a straight rock/blues setting fretless and fretted. Have fun dialing it in...she responds well to some drastic eq'ing more so than what you would normally think...I force myself to listen with my ears, and not my eyes and my conventional thinking.

 

[CormacBass]

Brought along a joe meek eq but ended up just dimming the pre volume as suggested. Really helped with boom.

 

[Not yet]

Gain 10
Volume 4-5
Bass 10
Mid 1
Mid Freq 600
Treble 11
Master 9 or.....

Good luck, let us know how it goes

 

[Jazzdogg]

I own a Streamliner 900 and uber 410. I'm having trouble with my live tone.
When I'm at home I can get a great sound but when I put it in a live situation it isn't working.
The drummer has said several times that he's "swimming in bass" and the guitarist has mentioned that my 200hz is filling the stage and making everything less clear.
I've tried all eq settings mentioned on streamliner threads but can't seem to get it right.

A possible solution I can think of would be to replace the uber 410 cab with two smaller cabs, possibly a 112 and 115, I'd angle the 112 at my head and I'd put the 115 in front of the stage with the PA speakers.

I'm going to try an eq3b first though and see if that solves the problem.

This thread has been really helpful.

I deal with those kinds of issues using a terrific variable high-pass filter made by fellow TBer Francis Deck:

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However, when the reason for such tonal problems is a mismatch between the tonal characteristics of the cab and the head, outboard devices usually aren't the solution.

 

[CormacBass]

Gain 10
Volume 4-5
Bass 10
Mid 1
Mid Freq 600
Treble 11
Master 9 or.....

Good luck, let us know how it goes

You have the pre volume at 4 - 5, wouldn't be right to the top? I though you meant to dim it down, I did the gig last night with it at around 10 and it sounded nice.
I'm still getting the Eq3b though.

I deal with those kinds of issues using a terrific variable high-pass filter made by fellow TBer Francis Deck:

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However, when the reason for such tonal problems is a mismatch between the tonal characteristics of the cab and the head, outboard devices usually aren't the solution.

Cool Filter.

I don't think the uber 410 is a mismatch for the streamliner 900, and if it is I'll have to make do for the meantime.

 

[f.c.geil]

You have the pre volume at 4 - 5, wouldn't be right to the top? I though you meant to dim it down, I did the gig last night with it at around 10 and it sounded nice.
I'm still getting the Eq3b though.

Cool Filter.

I don't think the uber 410 is a mismatch for the streamliner 900, and if it is I'll have to make do for the meantime.

The pre volume can be wherever. If it is lower than the gain, you get more overdrive/distortion/fuzz, but wherever it needs to be to get the volume you want is okay. Changing it does change the EQ somewhat, though, so be sure to try before you need it for a gig.
The EQ3B is a very well-regarded EQ around here, no worries there, and it can really help tame the bottom end of the Streamliners.
The über 410 is not a mis-match. It will, however, emphasize the same tonal range that the head already does, which can lead to boominess.

 

[CormacBass]

The pre volume can be wherever. If it is lower than the gain, you get more overdrive/distortion/fuzz, but wherever it needs to be to get the volume you want is okay. Changing it does change the EQ somewhat, though, so be sure to try before you need it for a gig.
The EQ3B is a very well-regarded EQ around here, no worries there, and it can really help tame the bottom end of the Streamliners.
The über 410 is not a mis-match. It will, however, emphasize the same tonal range that the head already does, which can lead to boominess.

Thank you for the great advice.

Here's the setup with the new EQ3b, its really solved the boom issue so far, while practicing on my own. I'll be gigging with it tomorrow so I'll see how it preforms then. The SVT setting that was recommended sounds great, I may have to alter it slightly and take out more low end because of the uber 410 cab.

Cheers!