wasn't this Dave Grohl guy once "grunge"?
wasn't that the genre of crappy music that killed off rock and roll?
his point is moo!
wasn't that the genre of crappy music that killed off rock and roll?
his point is moo!
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More truth from Dave Grohl
- Thread starter stratovani
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I do believe I heard him yell "LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROOOOLLL!" as it went to commercial
I think grunge was rock n' rolls last gap for air, then Creed came by and killed it by forceful teabagging.
A bit melodramatic, but sure, I agree. And while I agree with the opinion that computerized music doesn't have a lot of heart, I've never seen a computer that could make it's own music. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Or if people actually bought it.
I don't think that he was so much bashing computerized music as he was the entire musical production process these days, which can basically put any number of musical hacks in a studio for several weeks with a good producer and a lot of hard drive space and get something decent to pop out on the other end. Add to the fact that so many artists today don't have instrumentalists in the band at all, but simply assemble a bunch of folks to record an album, and then assemble another slew of folks to go on tour, and it leaves many folks wanting for the old days when there where more bands than there were entertainment acts. In that regard, I think Dave was being positive and not really slamming anyone. If he took a moment of self-pride, then so be it. He has worked hard throughout his career, and has gone through all the real ups and downs that it seems most bands go through. Dave has my complete respect an admiration. Whether or not someone personally likes the Foo Fighters music or not really shouldn't matter with regard to what he said.
+1 Eublet, all thats required to get a record deal now is a pretty face and a stripper body, the producers will take care of all the music. Talent not required. Ability to mime like you can play an instrument a plus if going for acoustic/soulful thing.
What's so wrong with using all of the tools available to you to you to create the music/art that you want?
If using digital technology as your medium is what moves you - go for it!
Dogging someone else for not doing it the way you think that it should be done is lame!
It's kind of like saying that you are not really painting a picture unless you are using a dinosaur hair brush'
or you are not a real photographer unless you use film instead of digital.
It's a big world out there people, with enough room in it for everyone.
If using digital technology as your medium is what moves you - go for it!
Dogging someone else for not doing it the way you think that it should be done is lame!
It's kind of like saying that you are not really painting a picture unless you are using a dinosaur hair brush'
or you are not a real photographer unless you use film instead of digital.
It's a big world out there people, with enough room in it for everyone.
i think u guys got it all wrong, he not bashing electronica or anything, he more refer to those producers or power that be that create albums like a assembling plant of a car factory and wrap it all up in fancy marketing, that the actually artist creating their own music, singing their own songs and writing their own words.
he is appealing to the musician and artist that actually create and pour out our hearts and minds into their music than has it produced in a factory and wrap it in pretty ribbons.
he is appealing to the musician and artist that actually create and pour out our hearts and minds into their music than has it produced in a factory and wrap it in pretty ribbons.
This sentiment drives me crazy. You are generalising a whole genre based on a few isolated snippets off the radio. Those songs are also ridiculed in hip-hop circles, they are not wholly representative of a genre which includes some very talented people. I feel that it's safe to assume that you haven't listened to any hip-hop outside of the 'popular' stuff out there. It would be like me criticising rock music after only hearing Creed and Nickleback.
Recording analogue requires more perfection during recording. It's a task many rock and rollers can't handle. If you need all that stuff to make your rock music sound good, then how good are you? How true is your music?
It's steroids! Yes, the music is there. The stats are there! But we all know we had more talent.
It's steroids! Yes, the music is there. The stats are there! But we all know we had more talent.
I once thought like this. But then someone told me to listen to Jurassic 5. That really got me into GOOD hip-hop and rap.
There is a entire indie world of that stuff too, just like we all have our favorite indie bands.
This is all I ever seem to hear people listening to, not based on the radio. I'm not saying its the only hip hop, but its definitly the most prominent, oozing out of every crack and crevice it seems like.
I don't think Dave's comments had anything to do with digital or analog either. He said exactly what he meant, that it's about what happens in your heart and what happens in your head, that it's about spending time honing your craft by learning to play, sing, and perform, and not about getting every thing perfect. That it's about the human element, which also seems to imply the interaction of the members of a band that have to make things work over time and deal with all the negative things that come along with that. He wasn't bashing hip hop, electronica, or anything else. I don't think you should put words into his mouth and then talk negatively about him over things he didn't say. That's what junior high kids do.
The thing is: Not very many of us were "Entertained" by that Lipsynced BS......
as to what Grohl was reffering to, many people didn't and obviously still don't truely get what he was saying at all..... he wasn't knocking any of the "Artist" there!!!!!
And I believe that David himself would agree - he has said many times that Kurt taught him the "formula" for writing hit songs.
I believe you're right. And for those of you who aren't big Foo Fighter fans, their latest album Wasting Light was recorded to tape. Yes, analog TAPE. (I think it was digitally mastered, though.) Within the CD slim case was included an actual snip of the tape on which the songs were recorded (or so it says -- I have no way of knowing). His point was, I believe, that you must learn an instrument -- guitar, bass, keyboard, drums, voice, whatever -- and create music. Put it down on a 4-track cassette recorder if that's what it takes. Don't throw a bunch of samples down, have someone sing/rap over it, and call it music or art. Some may not agree with that, but that's what he was saying.
