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More truth from Dave Grohl

You are on crack.

Foo Fighters are a damn good rock band. I'd bet a good sum of money they are a more powerful, tighter, more focused, better live band than whoever you are playing with right now. Good songs too, if you like that kind of thing.

They would be a damn good rock band if they were playing to 100 people a night on the club circuit. In fact, if they were playing to 100 people a night on the club circuit I'd probably go see them every time they came around.

Winning a Grammy is an interesting curiosity, I guess, if you find the machinations of the industry 'interesting'. But one has nothing to do with the other.

well, they ought to be, they are an (inter)national signed act. do they inspire me? nope. to me its very saccharine. would i pay for a ticket? nope. will my band ever cover their music, no. id rather play something with a groove and some soul. i play for me, not you or dave grohl. i listen to music for me, not you or dave grohl. id rather hear something interesting on the very edge of control, than some pedestrian power pop executed in a safe and tight manner.
 
I just believe that it is just fine to use whatever tool is at your disposal to produce the product that you want.

I would have to use a singer singing from a script (because I can't). and why can't a computer be someones "instrument"?

Those scratcher guys have made record players their "instruments", That group Stomp made garbage cans their "instruments".

The goal is to create music (art),
and there is more than one way to skin that cat.
 
well, they ought to be, they are an (inter)national signed act. do they inspire me? nope. to me its very saccharine. would i pay for a ticket? nope. will my band ever cover their music, no. id rather play something with a groove and some soul. i play for me, not you or dave grohl. i listen to music for me, not you or dave grohl. id rather hear something interesting on the very edge of control, than some pedestrian power pop executed in a safe and tight manner.

Wait, you are saying this as a musician in a cover band?

lol

Quiet, the adults are talking.
 
i think u guys got it all wrong, he not bashing electronica or anything, he more refer to those producers or power that be that create albums like a assembling plant of a car factory and wrap it all up in fancy marketing, that the actually artist creating their own music, singing their own songs and writing their own words.

he is appealing to the musician and artist that actually create and pour out our hearts and minds into their music than has it produced in a factory and wrap it in pretty ribbons.

+1
 
wasn't this Dave Grohl guy once "grunge"?
wasn't that the genre of crappy music that killed off rock and roll?

his point is moo!

Does anyone under the age of 60 or older than 16, feel that Grunge killed Rock? I always assumed it was a different progression of rock (good or bad) just like glam rock, or rap rock, or indie rock.

But what do I know, I was alive then and enjoyed some of my formative rock years in that era. :eyebrow:

And if you write off Dave because in the Grunge era he was part of one of the world's most popular and known bands (well, then I think your point is "moo" first of all), but I encourage you to listen to some of his rock accolades with Probot, Queens of the Stone Age, Tenacious D (haha) and Them Crooked Vultures (with rock god bass player John Paul Jones).

This man has the credentials and has definitely earned his salt to hold such an opinion.
 
+ a million to what Eublet has said.
I recall hearing Dave speaking at The Who tribute concert when they asked him how he felt being asked to play a Who song in front of Roger and Pete... he said he was surprised that they wanted a sloppy rock n roll band to perform their song!
I really like the Foo's... they have an energy level to their music that I find darn near impossible to find in any "newer" rock band. I have yet to see any Foo performance where the band phoned it in.
Dave and the Foo's have my utmost respect... and I really like that fact that Dave's comments have hit so many people in so many different ways... he got us/them all thinking.
We need more artists like Dave!!!!!
Fishheadjoe
 
I don't think that he was so much bashing computerized music as he was the entire musical production process these days, which can basically put any number of musical hacks in a studio for several weeks with a good producer and a lot of hard drive space and get something decent to pop out on the other end. Add to the fact that so many artists today don't have instrumentalists in the band at all, but simply assemble a bunch of folks to record an album, and then assemble another slew of folks to go on tour, and it leaves many folks wanting for the old days when there where more bands than there were entertainment acts. In that regard, I think Dave was being positive and not really slamming anyone. If he took a moment of self-pride, then so be it. He has worked hard throughout his career, and has gone through all the real ups and downs that it seems most bands go through. Dave has my complete respect an admiration. Whether or not someone personally likes the Foo Fighters music or not really shouldn't matter with regard to what he said.
I don't think Dave's comments had anything to do with digital or analog either. He said exactly what he meant, that it's about what happens in your heart and what happens in your head, that it's about spending time honing your craft by learning to play, sing, and perform, and not about getting every thing perfect. That it's about the human element, which also seems to imply the interaction of the members of a band that have to make things work over time and deal with all the negative things that come along with that. He wasn't bashing hip hop, electronica, or anything else. I don't think you should put words into his mouth and then talk negatively about him over things he didn't say. That's what junior high kids do.
Right on, Jason. I think Dave's actually fairly open-minded, and isn't genre-bashing. Personally, I find music that has more of a human element (in various forms) to it to be more appealing, whether that's the Drive-By Truckers, the Roots or M-83 (which is largely electronic but has a lot of heart to it, as corny as that might sound).
 
I think he drew a very stupid line in the sand. I have the utmost respect for him, but he dated and marginalized himself with this one. Those that make their living in the creative arts have a hard enough time without infighting. An anti-technology rant from a guy that tours with 4 buses and 2 semis full of gear. Short sighted at best.
 
........An anti-technology rant from a guy that tours with 4 buses and 2 semis full of gear. Short sighted at best.

I don't see it that way at all. It's not anti-technology but, it hints at learning your craft and honing your talents. Dave said it himself......"learn to play guitar, learn to sing into a microphone".....there's technology involved in doing BOTH of those things.
 
I think he drew a very stupid line in the sand. I have the utmost respect for him, but he dated and marginalized himself with this one. Those that make their living in the creative arts have a hard enough time without infighting. An anti-technology rant from a guy that tours with 4 buses and 2 semis full of gear. Short sighted at best.

It wasn't an anti-technology rant, rather a statement that music that is not digitally altered, designed and perfected is still relevant today (proven by the Grammy). The fact that they went analog, was proof that it doesn't matter how polished music needs to be, what matters is the thought and heart that went into it.

Hardly a sentiment anyone could disagree with, IMO.

And even if it were to be misconstrued as an "anti-technology rant" (relating to digitally altered/enhanced/perfected music), what does that have to do with the amount of gear they tour with to play arena shows? I think you're drawing a very big false equivalent here.
 
Did anyone else find it incredibly ironic that right after the close of that refreshing speech about genuine and natural music, they played that LMFAO "Party Rock" song (or whatever it's called...)? Oh the Grammys...

Dave's honest point, usurped by mass produced turd. :rollno:

I'd love to see some of the guys on here that disagree with Dave's point, try to defend LMFAO.
Good luck, gents.
 
ShredderMaximus said:
I just want hip-hop to die,at this point I liken it to where hair metal was in 1995. Its just making a fool of itself. The rappers aren't putting any effort into it, usually not even rapping or following any rhythmic patterns at all while they talk over sub-sub-par beats with material that consists of talking about their clothes, jewelry, car, punk @$$ bitches, and what girls are doing to his crotch. Just die hip hop, die.

I once thought like this. But then someone told me to listen to Jurassic 5. That really got me into GOOD hip-hop and rap.

There is a entire indie world of that stuff too, just like we all have our favorite indie bands.

I used to think like that too a long time ago but then I realized, what does it matter? I'm not forced to listen to hip hop or any other popular type of music. When (if?) the popular hip hop dies out, it'll be replaced with something as equally bad if not worse. I just laugh at all the rabid anti-pop music statements people make, espeically all the Youtube idiots who always have to bring up that famous kid who sings crappy songs :hyper: That kind of music sells because wait for it...the majority of people want to hear it!

Yes, it's a shame that many talented musicians can't even make a living off their music but that's the way it is. The masses aren't into it. So what? The radio & eMpTyV will always be filled with this kind of music. So make music for the joy of making music and have fun.

I haven't listened to The Foo Fighters since their 2nd album but I always thought Grohl had a great voice. Seems like a cool dude from the interviews I've seen. The Grammies are a joke but good for him that his band got one...I guess :D