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Most difficult bass song ever!!
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I dont wanna act like a jerk, but.... i just don't get manring. i know im gonna get yelled at for this but.. i just don't see the talent. It's all VERY pretty and VERY melodic, but then again, it's slow and spaced out. Which is not always a bad thing! but im just sayin. Stuff like *sorry, fanboyness shining through* Dream Theater, constantly up there at 160-208 bpm with stuff like the glass prison. Not to mention Dance of eternity changes signatures 48 times or so. but, thats beside the point. Other stuff thats really hard, Angels and Demons by angra. You have to do all those crazy runs, and you have to keep that pounding constant beat the whole song. so.... yeah. i just don't get manring.
but oh yeah
NECROPHAGIST AND ALL OTHER GRINDCORE SUCKS AND IS NOT DIFFICULT! If you cant play straight 16ths, get off my forum.
but oh yeah
NECROPHAGIST AND ALL OTHER GRINDCORE SUCKS AND IS NOT DIFFICULT! If you cant play straight 16ths, get off my forum.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
You don't see talent in Manring, but you see talent in dream theater?
Don't get me wrong, Dream Theater are very talented, but so is Manring.
I'd like to see ANY member of Dream Theater play something like Manring. Speed isn't everything buddy. Infact, Speed isn't anything.
I can't imagine being able to play Billy Sheehan chops.
billy is somewhat of a joke when you break it down. he uses a 3,2,1,3,2,1,3,2,1 three finger technique making it so all his stuff feels that it's triplets, because it is. so all you have to do to get his techniques down is, learn the trooper, you will then be able to play billy sheehans songs.
no offense to any sheehan fans
its just the technical truth. It's difficult to impossible to have a beat in 4's using a 3,2,1,3,2,1 finger technique.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
very true speed is nothing when not applied, which is why i put my comment on grindcore bass. I think he's a great player, but i just don't put him up there with the other greats like clarke and Jaco and what not. though if you listen to the song afore mentioned. Glass prison. There's many lines in there where it's an almost impossibly quick switch from one hand to two hands. The fact of the beat you have to keep on that song is nuts, and all the crazy runs in the middle to the end of the song, just like Home. And yes, i wasnt saying manring isnt talented, not at all. i'm just saying, i dont see why he has these prides of fans that will bow to his every move. not taht everyone is like that, but there are alot of people out there like that.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
And I don't see why people down down to Dream Theater, or Steve Vai or any of those "speed demons" I can't see much talent in that. Just noise. Fast noise.
I can't see much talent in that. Just noise. Fast noise.
he really doesnt, if you watch the interview on youtube that he does he tells you straight out that he uses a 321 combo, I'll find it. though, interview is from awhile ago, he might have changed his combo... ehh. whatev. we are on a forum yelling at each other lol. so just gimme a minute and i'll post the link, and if im wrong... sorry lol.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
Well, I could be wrong.
But, it's ignorant to call Sheehan a joke. I don't like him at all, but the man is talented at what he does.
And I don't see why people down down to Dream Theater, or Steve Vai or any of those "speed demons"
because......... its............. difficult? really? really? difficult? it's hard to explain why..... uh... er... i think it's really the fact that if they just played it on the album, theyd be cool... but they play their hardest songs everynight for 3-4 hours a night which to me is really impressive. it's just that. it's really tecnical stuff, and analyse the **** is you don't believe me. it's the hardest stuff that you can do with runs and whatnot. done really fast. but that's not what alot of JM's solo stuff is aobut, he's a much more melodic player that has his bursts of shred every now and again. but whatever, agree to disagree is cool. eh?
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
the man is not a joke, he is talented, i have to admit, but he doesnt do alot of hard stuff, but its all a triplte feel.
125 in he says ring iddle index ring middle index
And I don't see why people down down to Dream Theater, or Steve Vai or any of those "speed demons"
JM plays very clean; it's not nose, it's perfectly played notes -_-
And I don't see why people look down on speed. Why can't a speedy melody have the same level of melody and emotion as a slower one? There are a lot of guitarists that just make noise in generic shred patterns, but it's just another way of telling stories really.
I think the hardest bass song is writing one on your own that really conveys how you feel and bypasses the ego.
Or smoke on the water.
Or smoke on the water.
Stupified by Disturbed has been giving me a run for my money lately. Considering the verse is just one note, the other parts (due to speed) have taken me longer to get right than most of the songs that I know how to play.
River People - Jaco plays this so well it sounds like a loop. Not a very difficult song to play but you really need to be right on time and have a lot of stamina to pull this off.
According to his instructional DVDs, he plays constant 3, 2, 1, never doubling back, which actually makes it pretty simple to play four on the floor with a three finger style (he uses his pinky for some faster solos).
because......... its............. difficult? really? really? difficult? it's hard to explain why..... uh... er... i think it's really the fact that if they just played it on the album, theyd be cool... but they play their hardest songs everynight for 3-4 hours a night which to me is really impressive. it's just that. it's really tecnical stuff, and analyse the **** is you don't believe me. it's the hardest stuff that you can do with runs and whatnot. done really fast. but that's not what alot of JM's solo stuff is aobut, he's a much more melodic player that has his bursts of shred every now and again. but whatever, agree to disagree is cool. eh?
I'll admit that Myung is an EXTREMELY talented bass player, but I don't think it's something I would want to emulate. I tried my damndest to get into Dream Theater, and really just couldn't, and I would think that being a huge Rush fan would help, but it didn't - Dream Theater's problem is that they're too good for their own good, and never show restraint. Every goddamn song sounds the same, like Symphony X. Overly technical, cookie-cutter songs that only other musicians can appreciate. I can't listen to it.
Let's just say Dream Theater is impressive, but you almost never walk away humming a melody.
(puts up flameshield)
I'll admit that Myung is an EXTREMELY talented bass player, but I don't think it's something I would want to emulate. I tried my damndest to get into Dream Theater, and really just couldn't, and I would think that being a huge Rush fan would help, but it didn't - Dream Theater's problem is that they're too good for their own good, and never show restraint. Every goddamn song sounds the same, like Symphony X. Overly technical, cookie-cutter songs that only other musicians can appreciate. I can't listen to it.
Let's just say Dream Theater is impressive, but you almost never walk away humming a melody.
(puts up flameshield)
sorry
flameshields don't work here, unless of course it gives plus 10 ice defense... lol
Dream Theater plays many songs that are slow and melodic... Octavarium ?
and another day, spirit carries on, wait for sleep
please inform yourself before trying to inform others.
humming huh? i dont think i've ever found myself humming a rush song of nowegian wood by wooten, you dont hum any song, WHO HUMS. ITS 2007! you have an ipod... lol jk im just messin with ya there, ipods suck.
but come on, listen to every song, not just tthe fast songs. just try to learn Erotomania, its slower, but still really impressive. :/.............. i feel like a jerk arguing with people on the internet.
