Moving a 610 cab up & downstairs without help?

[JohnnyChatter]

I understand the work smarter not harder thing but man i have been hauling big cabs around for years and personally I prefer bigger cabs. I bet the 610 is easier to move than your gk. It has a dolly built into the back to you just pull it up stairs and let it slide down the stairs. That's why most cabs this style have rails on the back. When you put it in your vehicle lay it up and use leverage. Im 33 and weigh about 180 pounds and have been moving big cabs since I was 16. I live on the 4th floor and park my car 4 blocks away. Back in the 60’s through 90’s dude carried big rigs all over the place. Unless your pushing an unhealthy 45 or are a skinny hipster kid I say go for it. Heck I got friends half my size lugging 810’s around. This new no one wanting heavy gear or big tube heads have been great for us dudes willing to move the stuff. I have and have had several light weight cabs and class d heads and unless your willing to drop barefaced money you may as well get something rad like a V4b and a 610. Just my 12 cents.

 

[shoot-r]

Tomorrow I'm looking at a used Ampeg V4B & 610HLF cab. I'm a little concerned about moving the big cab & it could be unrealistic. I live in a four unit apartment, on the second floor & I will have to move it in & out for gigs.

There's about 5 or 6 steps, then a landing & 5 or 6 more. I know it weighs about 120#. I currently use a Gallien Krueger NEO 410 which apparently weighs around 70#. I usually just bear hug it & move it about.

Am I delusional thinking I can move this cab up & down stairs by myself? Do that casters & big handle help?

For my ears and back, I've always felt 610 cabinets are the perfect balance.....not to big to move.....big enough to actually cover just about any job you'll encounter and sound great doing it.

A few years back, 100 lbs. of 610 cabinet entered my now 66 years old life, I now refuse to play a job with-out this cabinet behind me.
Totally worth any hassle when in transit.

 

[31HZ]

I gigged a 100-pound Henry 8x8 for about a decade (it was my ONLY cab!), and schlepped it up all kinds of stairwells, but I was young and dumb.

 

[henryjurstin13]

I've moved an SVT810 a lot, often by myself.... got tired of that and went to a SVT-410HLF... moving plenty, by myself. Got tired of that too.....

No easy way to do it, other than straight weight lifting strength.

NV610 is a legit option, minus the costs... I changed my entire rig when I was downsizing. If I had roadies, there's no doubt in my mind, I'd have a row of SVT & 810 cabs... but, I don't. This lil Markbass rig always turns heads... always.

 

[dkelley]

610? stairs? omg.... that cab would never leave my apartment, or it would only live in ground floor storage

 

[devnulljp]

Add this little puppy to your AI rig and really cool lightweight system! The Upshot.View attachment 3688582View attachment 3688582

I like the look of those. I have a 10-2 external cab too when I need the big guns

 

[Gaolee]

A sack trolley with regular 10'' tyres can work so long as your stair treads aren't too tiny. Going up you hoist with your legs up and over each step using straight back. Going down is slow and steady. Drop, hold, roll, drop, hold...you don't want it taking off on you.

Exactly this. It's not strength so much as technique and time. I herk an Acoustic 361 cabinet up and down stairs this way, and I'm not an especially large human. The wheels are a lot smaller than a hand-truck's wheels. If you use a hand truck, I would suggest a refrigerator/appliance hand truck. If you can't use one of those, use a motorcycle tie-down strap to secure the cabinet to the hand truck. It's easier when you don't have to worry about things falling off.

 

[vvvmmm]

It's easier when you don't have to worry about things falling off.

As is true of so many things in life.

 

[Sixgunn]

What cab would you consider?

I'm considering a 2x10 or 2x12, but, only because I feel the 410 Neo is particularly woofy or bass heavy.

I just got a Schroeder 12 PL single 12. I downsized from a heavy Peavey TVX210 that would get me asked to turn down! I can carry it with one hand (28 lbs.) and it'll handle 600 watts. First gig with it is this Saturday.

 

[Nephilymbass]

Tomorrow I'm looking at a used Ampeg V4B & 610HLF cab. I'm a little concerned about moving the big cab & it could be unrealistic. I live in a four unit apartment, on the second floor & I will have to move it in & out for gigs.

There's about 5 or 6 steps, then a landing & 5 or 6 more. I know it weighs about 120#. I currently use a Gallien Krueger NEO 410 which apparently weighs around 70#. I usually just bear hug it & move it about.

Am I delusional thinking I can move this cab up & down stairs by myself? Do that casters & big handle help?

Stair climbing dolly is the way to go. Decent ones start at around $70 but you’ll love it.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Tomorrow I'm looking at a used Ampeg V4B & 610HLF cab. I'm a little concerned about moving the big cab & it could be unrealistic. I live in a four unit apartment, on the second floor & I will have to move it in & out for gigs.

There's about 5 or 6 steps, then a landing & 5 or 6 more. I know it weighs about 120#. I currently use a Gallien Krueger NEO 410 which apparently weighs around 70#. I usually just bear hug it & move it about.

Am I delusional thinking I can move this cab up & down stairs by myself? Do that casters & big handle help?

Dolley. Somebody managed to get that fridge in your apartment, and I don’t think they beat hug them. A dolley would make short work of it.

 

[Brother Goose]

I hope you find a reasonable option.

I really enjoy my current fearful 12/6 cabs- they sound amazing and are fairly easy to transport.

By best sound quality to transport ease rig ratio was with a pair of avatar 210 cans stacked vertically.

 

[fakeneckplate'65]

Dolley. Somebody managed to get that fridge in your apartment, and I don’t think they beat hug them. A dolley would make short work of it.

Yeah it was my brother & I up the fire escape, haha. We may have used a dolly, I don't recall.

 

[bassballs27]

You don’t need to dead lift that cab.
Turn it end over end.
Basically rolling it down the stairs.
Get in front of it as you roll it.
You can lay it on its long side (back or side) and strategically place the handle to drag it towards you. It will probably rest on the third step or so as you move it. Just pivot the cabinet upside down and flip once more.

I’ve moved a 250 lbs Ampeg PR-810 down 6 stairs myself and into my pickup truck myself. A little time and patience, you’ll get it.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Yeah it was my brother & I up the fire escape, haha. We may have used a dolly, I don't recall.

Great story...20 years from now you two will still be talking about it...

 

[chadds]

You don’t need to dead lift that cab.
Turn it end over end.
Basically rolling it down the stairs.
Get in front of it as you roll it.
You can lay it on its long side (back or side) and strategically place the handle to drag it towards you. It will probably rest on the third step or so as you move it. Just pivot the cabinet upside down and flip once more.

I’ve moved a 250 lbs Ampeg PR-810 down 6 stairs myself and into my pickup truck myself. A little time and patience, you’ll get it.

This. Pay for a padded Tuki cover. They securely Velcro. Roll it slowly end over end up or down. The cover will eventually wear out. Your body and the cab will be fine.

I’m sorry YMMV but those tiny Neo 1x12 etc. cabs you guys show do not sound like a 6x10. That may be your compromise for transit, cost, your health or physical fitness all valid but you can’t possibly be telling us the sound is equal. We know better.

 

[JohnnyChatter]

This is not meant to be taken negatively but I think we all are getting older or softer. I got two nice Aguilar 12” cabs and an Aguilar TH500. After a minute I tried the cabs with a big tube head. Next thing I know I’m hauling my big rigs around again. That light weight stuff sounds good but it’s not the same I’m sorry unless you want to drop 3000 on a cab.

...It’s a little work for a big reward and a 610 is pretty dang easy to move around honestly...

 

[Gibson Victory]

Wow! I have exactly what you have, and I though I was the last survivor. Thankfully I’m not the last one on Planet Earth!. I was among other things in the logistics, warehouse field for over thirty years. Remember those tee shirts that you used to see that said “I’m not Smart, but I can lift Heavy Things”, I wear those EVERY day. Even pushing 70 now, I can still hold my own with the best of “All the Young Dudes”. It is really not about lifting physical weight, it’s about leverage, knowing where and when to lift, push or slide. Best advice I can give here for an immediate solution is to get some help. You would be surprised what a little Bribery, Graft and Corruption can do here. Loosely translated, this means “you help me, and I will help you” kind of thing. Person does not need to go to the “Gym”, Just needs basic instruction. If you have a certain timeline in mind, some “dry runs” will be necessary, so that you will know about how long it takes to get things from point A to point B. AKA being a Roadie. However the job gets done, you will have to admit that once everything is set up and in place, you will sound great, and all the work will be worth it.

 

[bassballs27]

This. Pay for a padded Tuki cover. They securely Velcro. Roll it slowly end over end up or down. The cover will eventually wear out. Your body and the cab will be fine.

I’m sorry YMMV but those tiny Neo 1x12 etc. cabs you guys show do not sound like a 6x10. That may be your compromise for transit, cost, your health or physical fitness all valid but you can’t possibly be telling us the sound is equal. We know better.

Amen brother!

 

[Downunderwonder]

I have done the rolling thing. Mind it doesn't go for a ski as you lay it down. Quite hard on the carpet as you can't catch a tread without levering the cab over the one above.