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Muff clones
- Thread starter gnasher1993
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I just find the Russian Muff doesn't fit too well into a band setting. I love the way it's such a natural (is fuzz natural?), open sounding fuzz but I don't like the fizziness of the harmonics, they're too prominent to be usable if that makes sense.
Makes perfect sense. I sold my RBM to my guitarist for that exact reason.
The Bass Big Muff was a little too tame for my purposes, but you might have a different feeling about it.
Makes perfect sense. I sold my RBM to my guitarist for that exact reason.
We'll soon find out
.Cheers for posting that link, Kris, I'll have a listen to those later and see which of them I prefer. Details on the GGG tuned BMP? What's different about it?
Slightly off topic question (kind of):
I have two black russian big muffs. As I remember, they sound quite different (one doesn't work now sadly) and one is clearly older than the other. Did the design change at all (internally I mean, I can see they're different on the outside)?
Older one on the left...
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Was the one on the right modded? Maybe to creamy dreamer specs? The green LED tipped me off...or maybe it's just a new LED.
The GGG is different from the Russian versions by a few capacitor values as well as many reisistors.
The GGG is different from the Russian versions by a few capacitor values as well as many reisistors.
I don't know, Ryan. I can get gut shots if that would help answer your question?
Just spent 30 mins A/B'ing the BBM with my RBM. I'm not completely convinced...
It sounds really awesome but it doesn't seem to have as much gain as the Russian (which is a shame). Also it sounds quite compressed to me compared to the organic sound I like from the Russian. The normal mode was my favourite, the bass boost made it a bit too muddy for my liking.
It's definitely got alot of presence and the fundamental note is there as well as the harmonics. It retains the low end really well, especially in the dry mode, though I do find it a bit of a pain not being able to dial in how much dry signal you can blend.
To summarise:
It's an awesome pedal but I didn't bring one home with me. It's a little too tame if that makes any sense
also a bit too woofy (is that even a word?). If I can find one 2nd hand at a good price I may well grab it and spend a bit more time playing around with it.
rratajski
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Don't worry about gutshots. Too much work. For me, the regular Russian and the modded are both blah.
Which Russian did you bring? Red LED or green? If you brought the green, which I am guessing is modded to Creamy Dreamer specs, it would have more gain than a normal Russian. Apparently, the BBM is based upon the Black Russian, so they should pretty similar (minus the blend and boost options).
BTW, rehousing a Black Russian is not worth it, IMHO. The board is huge.
If you want more gain, the non-Russian versions will have more gain, but mid-response and muddiness/treble will obviously vary. Your other option, if you're concerned about your tone w/ a muff in a band setting is to get a blender.
Which Russian did you bring? Red LED or green? If you brought the green, which I am guessing is modded to Creamy Dreamer specs, it would have more gain than a normal Russian. Apparently, the BBM is based upon the Black Russian, so they should pretty similar (minus the blend and boost options).
BTW, rehousing a Black Russian is not worth it, IMHO. The board is huge.
If you want more gain, the non-Russian versions will have more gain, but mid-response and muddiness/treble will obviously vary. Your other option, if you're concerned about your tone w/ a muff in a band setting is to get a blender.
I took the red LED one with me.
So, in your opinion, the black russian isn't one of the better muff variants?
I don't know, Ryan. I can get gut shots if that would help answer your question?
Just spent 30 mins A/B'ing the BBM with my RBM. I'm not completely convinced...
It sounds really awesome but it doesn't seem to have as much gain as the Russian (which is a shame). Also it sounds quite compressed to me compared to the organic sound I like from the Russian. The normal mode was my favourite, the bass boost made it a bit too muddy for my liking.
It's definitely got alot of presence and the fundamental note is there as well as the harmonics. It retains the low end really well, especially in the dry mode, though I do find it a bit of a pain not being able to dial in how much dry signal you can blend.
To summarise:
It's an awesome pedal but I didn't bring one home with me. It's a little too tame if that makes any sense
Yeah, not as much gain as many other muffs is a reasonable complaint. It doesn't have the sizzle/sparkle of the Russian as a result. The quest continues!
From playing with my bluebeard and my GGG sovtek clone ive found that the sovtek has way more bass but the bluebeard has a much higher gain and more mids. I like both but in different ways.
Muffs I own currently (and I feel set):
D*A*M Ram Head
EHX Russian Muff (Black)
EHX Bass Big Muff
Way Huge Swollen Pickle MK1
Way Huge Swollen Pickle MKII
D*A*M Ram Head
EHX Russian Muff (Black)
EHX Bass Big Muff
Way Huge Swollen Pickle MK1
Way Huge Swollen Pickle MKII
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People are diggin' the new Swollen Pickle. Vegas/Thom and Dave Edwardson are loving theirs for sure.
No...I'll be able to try the Swollen Pickle and I'll have a look on your site at the Pickle Pie B. The PP-B is a clone of the SP right? What is that sets them apart?
Did you do a review of the Swollen Pickle? I was sure you had the original and the reissue. Or am I completely imagining that
?Sorry for all the questions
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No...I'll be able to try the Swollen Pickle and I'll have a look on your site at the Pickle Pie B. The PP-B is a clone of the SP right? What is that sets them apart?
Did you do a review of the Swollen Pickle? I was sure you had the original and the reissue. Or am I completely imagining that
Sorry for all the questions
The Pickle Pie is a clone of the swollen pickle
The Pickle Pie B is a bass modified revision of that clone, including a blend.
I do own both the MK1 and MKII swollen pickle, but haven't done a review yet. My gut feeling (as of now) and in spite of the mojo factor, is that the MKII is a superior pedal.
we all know that LEDs are a massive factor in the tone of pedals, blue and purple tend so sound the best.
Would you say the GGG is worth checking out? Are there any builders (that aren't on hiatus
) who make the GGG muff tuned to the different specs of the muff variants?Having a look through your review as we speak. Do D*A*M still make the Ram Head? They're made fairly locally to me IIRC.
Definitely the next one on my list of pedals to check out
.we all know that LEDs are a massive factor in the tone of pedals, blue and purple tend so sound the best.
Taboo? Or is that actually true? Most of my pedals have red LEDs...
Also...just found [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. Does anyone have any experience with them?
