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Muse - Time is Running Out

#21
I've tried that BSW setting a couple of times. Whilst it's close enough tonewise, it really loses volume (my main gripe with the BSW in general TBH - volume is all over the place). You may want to run it through something else to boost it's volume again.

Actually, thinking about it. I may try it again next rehearsal, but only on the verses, then switch it off and engage the fuzz for the heavier sections.... that might, just, work!

PS, I'm considering purchasing the new Zoom MS-60b which has a number of synths onboard (one of which models the venerable Korg G5!). I wonder how that would work for muse type bass tones?
 
#23
I'm trying to mimic his live tone. I've been doing what's been said before, using a synth, and then switching to any fuzzy kind of effect in the heavier parts, I've also read somewhere that it's a keyboard, but I choose not to believe that it's the only way.
 
#25
Ok so what you wanna do is take that boss bass synth, turn the decay/rate knob to the max (unless you hook up the expression pedal and leave it wide open), set your frequency knob to max, set your resonance to the minimum, use either mode 10 or 6, and then adjust the frequency/resonance along with the dry/wet controls to taste. For me that was a very satisfying tone for that song. Alternatively you can set your big muff to max tone, max sustain, bass boost on (assuming its a bass big muff), adjust your volume so it doesn't deafen you when engaged, tweak the tone to taste, and possibly lower the sustain a bit if you want.
 
#26
Adamixoye said:
Link? Doesn't sound like a keyboard to me.
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It was in a mag interview.

Honestly, this topic has been done to DEATH. Doing a search should find it for you. I shouldn't have to do the work for you... Nothing personal, btw. It's just ridiculous no one takes a second to search when the information is already out there. It's the same with Justin Chancellor and Tim Commerford.
 
#27
Well, I'm not the OP. I was just responding with what I've heard. I haven't done a huge in-depth search on it because I have no desire to. I had heard the BSW does a good approximation, but isn't necessarily exactly what he uses, and I've been able to replicate a pretty good approximation with mine.

I've read the long threads on Chris W.'s tone---I'm a fan and I'm interested in the topic but I'm also not one of the obsessive audiophile snobs---and I don't think I've ever read that the keyboard synth was used. If it's a magazine interview, maybe it's also not the easiest thing to find online? My point is, I don't think I was being all that lazy by asking you where you heard that.

jmattbassplaya said:
It was in a mag interview.

Honestly, this topic has been done to DEATH. Doing a search should find it for you. I shouldn't have to do the work for you... Nothing personal, btw. It's just ridiculous no one takes a second to search when the information is already out there. It's the same with Justin Chancellor and Tim Commerford.
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#28
danielfnj96 said:
Ok so what you wanna do is take that boss bass synth, turn the decay/rate knob to the max (unless you hook up the expression pedal and leave it wide open), set your frequency knob to max, set your resonance to the minimum, use either mode 10 or 6, and then adjust the frequency/resonance along with the dry/wet controls to taste. For me that was a very satisfying tone for that song. Alternatively you can set your big muff to max tone, max sustain, bass boost on (assuming its a bass big muff), adjust your volume so it doesn't deafen you when engaged, tweak the tone to taste, and possibly lower the sustain a bit if you want.
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Wow, that was helpful. And detailed. Thank you very much!
 
#29
jmattbassplaya said:
It was in a mag interview.

Honestly, this topic has been done to DEATH. Doing a search should find it for you. I shouldn't have to do the work for you... Nothing personal, btw. It's just ridiculous no one takes a second to search when the information is already out there. It's the same with Justin Chancellor and Tim Commerford.
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You couldn't be more wrong. What proves that this was a actually good topic, is that I've read many methods of trying to achieve the same sound, and a lot of them sound really alike. I can surely say, that I have learned more here, than I could ever do on google pr youtube (believe me, i tried). So, you could stop being so negative, and just not take part in a conversation you think is useless.
 
#30
RitchieBlue said:
You couldn't be more wrong. What proves that this was a actually good topic, is that I've read many methods of trying to achieve the same sound, and a lot of them sound really alike. I can surely say, that I have learned more here, than I could ever do on google pr youtube (believe me, i tried). So, you could stop being so negative, and just not take part in a conversation you think is useless.
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Yeah, that's been done before too. And if you had done a Google search you would have found links to the other TB threads on this topic that would have told you some good stuff too ;) Seeing as you're brand new here, I'm just trying to show you the ropes. Believe me, if you think I was being rude then you should start a thread on what's the best bass for metal, why the Beatles weren't as good as everyone claims, or why SX basses are better than MIA Fenders. You'll see that I've been a peach :D
 
#31
jmattbassplaya said:
Yeah, that's been done before too. And if you had done a Google search you would have found links to the other TB threads on this topic that would have told you some good stuff too ;) Seeing as you're brand new here, I'm just trying to show you the ropes. Believe me, if you think I was being rude then you should start a thread on what's the best bass for metal, why the Beatles weren't as good as everyone claims, or why SX basses are better than MIA Fenders. You'll see that I've been a peach :D
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Well, I just think that, if you ser a thread that does not interest you, don't take part in it. You're not being forced to answer this, and we were all having a healthy conversation here. I'm pretty sure there are answers here that weren't on the already existing threads, here or in other forums.

And the fact that there are people that have been more rude than you, doesn't make you any less rude.
 
#32
Well I know from experience that the zvex mastotron gets that gated fuzz sound from the recording.. a woolly mammoth or a clone will definitely get you even closer I hear. I don't have insight on your gear though. But I do know that you'll get really close with a gated fuzz of some kind. Probably even closer with an ls2 for the clean blend like on the recording.
 
#33
Honestly, I think there is more than just a muff going on there. But I know when my band was covering it, I just played the notes. That was good enough for all of us. I mean you can probably use that Digi synth to get that sort of squashed tone he has going on in the intro and verses but IMO, if I was not in a Muse specific cover band, I would'nt worry about it too much. I just played it with a little grit added to my tone.
 
#35
gregmon79 said:
Honestly, I think there is more than just a muff going on there. But I know when my band was covering it, I just played the notes. That was good enough for all of us. I mean you can probably use that Digi synth to get that sort of squashed tone he has going on in the intro and verses but IMO, if I was not in a Muse specific cover band, I would'nt worry about it too much. I just played it with a little grit added to my tone.
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yea, the problem is that I am in a Muse specific cover band, as you mentioned, so I have to worry with this kind of thing, otherwise, I'd just play the notes too.
 
#37
Here's a quick recording of a "close enough for a bar band" tone I got from my MXR Blowtorch if anyone is interested.

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It's my Zon 519 into the MXR Blowtorch, into a Demeter Opto Compulator, into my M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, into my computerm and recorded with Reaper... there was no post processing done like compression or EQ or anything.

Settings on the Blowtorch are:

Volume: 10:30
Bass: 2:00
Midrange: Dimed
Mid Shift: 2KHz
Treble: 2:45
Blend: 12:45
Gain: 3:00

I know it's not exact... but... I think it's close enough for most average folk, if you know what I'm sayin'. :D
 
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#40
Addison said:
Here's a quick recording of a "close enough for a bar band" tone I got from my MXR Blowtorch if anyone is interested.

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It's my Zon 519 into the MXR Blowtorch, into a Demeter Opto Compulator, into my M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, into my computerm and recorded with Reaper... there was no post processing done like compression or EQ or anything.

Settings on the Blowtorch are:

Volume: 10:30
Bass: 2:00
Midrange: Dimed
Mid Shift: 2KHz
Treble: 2:45
Blend: 12:45
Gain: 3:00

I know it's not exact... but... I think it's close enough for most average folk, if you know what I'm sayin'. :D
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That does sound close to it... And I'm starting to be pretty sure this conversation will end up hurting my wallet.
 
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