Music Man SUB USA

[yodedude2]

I do that kinda of work already but for a small fee for clients.

ah, a broker! makes sense. best to ya, and good luck in your endeavors.

here's a more altruistic poster: For Sale - EBMM Stingray Special 5 HH red sparkle burst NY LOCAL SALE

 

[tmvt]

I guess so I have a good idea of what the actually end result is rather then asking.

 

[yodedude2]

With the worst finish ever. They sprayed on bed liner and try to spin it as its a "sports utility bass" meaning tough and you can throw it around and beat it up. That's just marketing trying to turn the negative aspect of a products design decision into a positive. The bed liner was a cheap easy finish with the least amount of prep and hands on work to apply so they went with that to keep cost down.

this is spot on.

o.p., check out the bass in person. if you don't like the finsh, it's a no-go for sure.

 

[yodedude2]

I guess so I have a good idea of what the actually end result is rather then asking.

thanks for sharing your experience. there's a side to the market that exists outside of the internet, and most folks don't get to see it.

 

[Lo-E]

…you probably could scoop a normal USA Stingray for that or close to it. You might need a hundred more bucks or so depending on hard you look and how good you are at negotiating.

Where?!?
I haven’t seen real SRs anywhere near that price range for several years.

I have never been a big fan of the paint on my US SUB but it delivers in every other respect. It is a slab-body ray with ugly paint, plain and simple, and the quality is equal to that of my two other Stingrays and my Sabre.
Also, MM is not currently making a SR with the classic 2-band preamp (which I happen to like).

In rough condition these are still showing up used in my area for $600-700 but clean ones are already in the $800-900 range. MM prices have jumped a lot on the used market.

Would I pay $1k for a US SUB? Probably not, but it doesn’t seem out of bounds to me given the current market. I would certainly consider $800.

 

[tmvt]

Where?!?
I haven’t seen real SRs anywhere near that price range for several years.

I have never been a big fan of the paint on my US SUB but it delivers in every other respect. It is a slab-body ray with ugly paint, plain and simple, and the quality is equal to that of my two other Stingrays and my Sabre.
Also, MM is not currently making a SR with the classic 2-band preamp (which I happen to like).

In rough condition these are still showing up used in my area for $600-700 but clean ones are already in the $800-900 range. MM prices have jumped a lot on the used market.

Would I pay $1k for a US SUB? Probably not, but it doesn’t seem out of bounds to me given the current market. I would certainly consider $800.

Id say 600 - 700 is right in the ball park of what they should be. But other variables play a part in what people think they should be asking. My best advice is to look on every platform you can and negotiate. Not just look once and while and wait to get lucky for a deal to pop up in front of you but actively look daily and pursue what your looking for.

If you dont see any pop up in weeks or months look for items that haven't moved for awhile that the seller is still looking to sell. And of course craigslist and buying local to avoid sellers fee and shipping will help get a deal.

Dont just look in your direct area look at all the cities around you up to however many miles your willing to drive. Im usually willing to drive up to 3 or 4 hours one way and take a mini road trip for a killer deal. You get to see some new places have a bite to eat and take in some new regional vibes in a place you have never been and most likely come back with a killer new bass.

 

[juancaminos]

I bought mine for half of that and it became my number one for a few years but I could never get used to the neck. So I spent the money to make my Jazz Bass sound as close to the MM as possible and sold the SUB.

 

[Peepaleep]

How much would you pay for an as-new Music Man SUB USA version? If it was in pristine condition.

Would you pay $1,000? Or would you spend a bit more and get an actual Stingray or Bongo?

Just curious.

If you're interested in a USA EBMM Stingray I have one for $900 shipped CONUS. I just have not had a chance to put it in the classifieds yet. Send me a PM and I'll send you specs, info, pics, etc.

 

[tmvt]

If you're interested in a USA EBMM Stingray I have one for $900 shipped CONUS. I just have not had a chance to put it in the classifieds yet. Send me a PM and I'll send you specs, info, pics, etc.

@Lo-E @yodedude2

 

[Lo-E]

But other variables play a part in what people think they should be asking.

As it has always been and as it always will be. What an instrument is “worth” will never be anything more than what someone is willing to accept for it and what someone else is willing to pay for it. Without those two variables being met there is no sale, regardless of the market, and that’s no different now than it ever was.

There will always be the occasional great deal if one is patient enough to be in the right place at the right time but it doesn’t necessarily reflect the going rate in the market any more than the occasional wildly overpriced instrument and the sucker who falls for it.

I’ve gotten incredibly good deals on some instruments but that doesn’t mean I think that those prices were indicative of the market. They weren’t; I just got lucky.

 

[tmvt]

As it has always been and as it always will be. What an instrument is “worth” will never be anything more than what someone is willing to accept for it and what someone else is willing to pay for it. Without those two variables being met there is no sale, regardless of the market, and that’s no different now than it ever was.

There will always be the occasional great deal if one is patient enough to be in the right place at the right time but it doesn’t necessarily reflect the going rate in the market any more than the occasional wildly overpriced instrument and the sucker who falls for it.

I’ve gotten incredibly good deals on some instruments but that doesn’t mean I think that those prices were indicative of the market. They weren’t; I just got lucky.

If you want it make a deal happen you put the work in and something will work out. It not about waiting for a good deal or someone that doesn't know what they have. That happens but you will be waiting on that. As I said hit up a bunch of people and start working deals and something will work out for you. Plus I tagged you in a post of a guy looking to sell a us for 900. No work involved and one already as popped up

 

[yodedude2]

If you're interested in a USA EBMM Stingray I have one for $900 shipped CONUS. I just have not had a chance to put it in the classifieds yet. Send me a PM and I'll send you specs, info, pics, etc.

@ReeV0

whoop there it is ... pending condition

 

[yodedude2]

@Lo-E @yodedude2

las cruces! i could drive there, have a vacay, and save on the shipping!

too bad that i already have 20 basses ...

 

[tmvt]

@ReeV0

whoop there it is

gihpy

@ReeV0

whoop there it is

 

[tmvt]

las cruces! i could drive there, have a vacay, and save on the shipping!

too bad that i already have 20 basses ...

When you find a good deal you could always add one more. If you have to cut it free you usually make money on them with people that cant find these deals or dont want to hassle with hunting them down.

 

[yodedude2]

When you find a good deal you could always add one more. If you have to cut it free you usually make money on them with people that cant find these deals or dont want to hassle with hunting them down.

yeah, i at least like to break even. don't have to make money, just don't wanna lose money. i flipped a carvin [played it once onstage just to show that i could] at g.c. and still came out ahead with the 'lowball' g.c. offer. gotta buy them right.

but yeah, i'm one that detests the 'hassle', so i often end up buying from a broker, professional or otherwise.

there was an amateur broker in my hometown. he found a 70s fretless p bass, near mint. also a 32" scale gibson explorer bass,nice with original case. dude spent all day scrounging pawnshops and c.l. ... but i could never buy from him, he wanted top dollar retail on everything that he spent 30 cents on the dollar for. oh well.

 

[tmvt]

yeah, i at least like to break even. don't have to make money, just don't wanna lose money. i flipped a carvin [played it once onstage just to show that i could] at g.c. and still came out ahead with the 'lowball' g.c. offer. gotta buy them right.

but yeah, i'm one that detests the 'hassle', so i often end up buying from a broker, professional or otherwise.

there was an amateur broker in my hometown. he found a 70s fretless p bass, near mint. also a 32" scale gibson explorer bass,nice with original case. dude spent all day scrounging pawnshops and c.l. ... but i could never buy from him, he wanted top dollar retail on everything that he spent 30 cents on the dollar for. oh well.

He should be just charging a flat rate for his services and do his thing for the client. Buying and fliping is different then just hunting for people.

 

[tmvt]

yeah, i at least like to break even. don't have to make money, just don't wanna lose money. i flipped a carvin [played it once onstage just to show that i could] at g.c. and still came out ahead with the 'lowball' g.c. offer. gotta buy them right.

but yeah, i'm one that detests the 'hassle', so i often end up buying from a broker, professional or otherwise.

there was an amateur broker in my hometown. he found a 70s fretless p bass, near mint. also a 32" scale gibson explorer bass,nice with original case. dude spent all day scrounging pawnshops and c.l. ... but i could never buy from him, he wanted top dollar retail on everything that he spent 30 cents on the dollar for. oh well.

But for that price you could just mark it up slightly and sell easily locally if you didnt want to keep it or find a broker and give them a small cut to get top dollar. If his service is worth it the amount he could get more then you should more then cover the cost and then some of his services.

 

[yodedude2]

But for that price you could just mark it up slightly and sell easily locally if you didnt want to keep it or find a broker and give them a small cut to get top dollar. If his service is worth it the amount he could get more then you should more then cover the cost and then some of his services.

we are way off topic from the o.p. here, but this is interesting stuff to me. ... selling locally is fraught with issues. i've done a little bit, but it's mostly a dead end. maybe it's a texas thing ... but houston and dfw seem to be better markets. but again, i am too old to put up with the hassle. it's ... a hassle.

also, for collectors, basses need to be dead mint to have the most appeal. o.p. was looking at a 'pristine' bass. anything modded ... is tough to move these days. might as well just sell the parts.

way off topic ... but hey, maybe you might be interested in a couple of my basses

 

[yodedude2]

When you find a good deal you could always add one more. ...

that is how i got where i am