It depends on whether you're doing it for your friend or doing it for the music. Sometimes you do things for the thing and sometimes for the companionship and sometimes to do someone a favour. If it's the first one then only do it occasionally or stop. If it's the second or the third one and then... you know what to do.
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Music snobs - a short rant
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It depends on whether you're doing it for your friend or doing it for the music. Sometimes you do things for the thing and sometimes for the companionship and sometimes to do someone a favour. If it's the first one then only do it occasionally or stop. If it's the second or the third one and then... you know what to do.
yeah that's too bad. Other places of the world might be different, but most 'Merican audiences AFAIK do not want to hear the band, or singer, preach their politics.
but there is a stamp of a particular wing that shall remain nameless that views this political hammering to be the truest purpose of music and art itself, and which rides cultural waves as they ebb and tide.
since it's Saturday, and we are all Psychologists, I will further opine that the lifeless tempo choices of this singer belie his subconscious acknowledgement of his being a drag. And does it not have a Moralist air to it, as well? "Sure, I'd rather be doing brainless happy danceable music, but I must convey my superior political and moral view to the old ladies of the Church..."
I was going to maybe recommend Bruce Cockburn "Stolen Land", but I notice the same effect! I've done this song for many years with a band, as a crackling, high-energy tune. The "cinquilo" beat always fills the dance floor, and we usually have extended solo's between verses. Never heard the original until just now- and sure enough, he sucks the life out of it with his proselytizing identity-politics. it sounds like the song is on thorazine, compared to how we do it.
So, umm. Nevermind.
Then again, I'm SURE there's audience for what your buddy's up to.
What baffles me is that in folk music, there's no need for everything to be slow and drudgy. This is the stuff my parents were listening to ca. 1960:
And being snobbish about folk music makes even less sense to me. The whole point of the folk music wave of the 60s was how easy and accessible it was. Anyone could pick up a guitar, learn two or three chords, and start playing Tom Dooley.
And being snobbish about folk music makes even less sense to me. The whole point of the folk music wave of the 60s was how easy and accessible it was. Anyone could pick up a guitar, learn two or three chords, and start playing Tom Dooley.
Bandwidth hog.
Great folk band name
Classic rock's been old for a while now.
Kinda reminds me of the band I play in. We play rock from some late '50's but esp the '60's and '70's, some more contemporary. I find a lot of the '60's bass playing quite uninspiring but the BL likes to keep it as original as possible. On two of the songs the bass has only 2 notes played ad nausium over and over. My solution....got a Loop pedal, play/record the first measure, then hit playback and relax with my brew. (That and I keep reminding myself, "I'm being paid to play this gig"). Job done! Show me the money!
...and on that note, cheerio for now, I gotta be on stage in less than 3 hours.
...and on that note, cheerio for now, I gotta be on stage in less than 3 hours.
I don't know... if it was me, I'd tell him to Folk himself. And take off that Bob Dylan hat and put down the joint.
There are 3 reasons to do a gig:
You love the music
The money is good
You're making great connections
It doesn't sound like the OP has any of these in his list.
You love the music
The money is good
You're making great connections
It doesn't sound like the OP has any of these in his list.
Rule #1
If it doesn't pay, don't play,
(Unless you like the situation or it's for a good charitable purpose).
Rule#2
Why play protest songs if there is nothing to protest??? Only the old draft dodging hippies will appreciate them.
Rule #3
Refer back to Rule #1
If it doesn't pay, don't play,
(Unless you like the situation or it's for a good charitable purpose).
Rule#2
Why play protest songs if there is nothing to protest??? Only the old draft dodging hippies will appreciate them.
Rule #3
Refer back to Rule #1
I've done recording favors for 'friends' for their albums and suffered because the persons songs didn't turn out as good as they could have been because of their desire to be totally in control. ... I've been playing all kinds of music forever and found trusting musicians to do what they do best at the moment it needs to be done. ... Trust, it comes down to trust and many people see that as a weakness. ... I see the 'need' to be 'in control' as a weakness.
In my opinion, you confirmed (or maybe AFfirmed?) what OP was saying. That song was incredibly repetitive. And I have no problem with the term "snoozey" either.
If you can't sit still for 3 minutes then maybe the problem isn't with the song.
If the song makes me want to sit still, the problem could be the song.
"Folks" music?
Naw, I'm down with "Peoples"* music.
*Chicago in-joke.
Also, I just wanna say, I hate Mumford & Chumps almost as much as I hate, eh, Jack Johnson ... Am I a snob? (Please say, yes.)
Naw, I'm down with "Peoples"* music.
*Chicago in-joke.
Also, I just wanna say, I hate Mumford & Chumps almost as much as I hate, eh, Jack Johnson ... Am I a snob? (Please say, yes.)
I believe this is to be Bruno Mars' next single. Perhaps the OP and chum could cover it?
Politely tell you church bud that you are moving on musically in a different direction.
I started out playing folk music, solo, and trio gigs in coffee houses, but stopped about 50 some years ago. There was more money in playing polkas, and the bass parts were about the same.
