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Musicman clones

sx did make it but halted immediately after a month due to lawsuits i think

I believe that. it's a shame that sx stopped making them due to a lawsuit.

It's not that SX stopped making them, they still do.

It's that Rondo Music was sued, and can't import them anymore. Outside of the US, they're still fair game, just like Rickenbacker knockoffs.
 
I used to have a Jay Turser copy of a Sting Ray. Headstock looked a little different and I thought the sound was kind of thin compared to the real thing. Looked nice, not bad for the price, but not a lot of punch to it IMO.
 
Keep your eyes open for a Dillion VMB400 or VMB500 if you're looking for a nice SR clone. These were made in Korea, only available with Maple necks/fretboard and a single Humbucker.

They're well made, and incorporate quality hardware. Much nicer than the OLP offering.

You can visit the Dillion website to see photos and specs. But you will only find them used, because they were discontinued around 2003.

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yep discoed in 2003 and I had one for many years. Ash capped maple bodied heavy great sounding and fit and finish perfect--:
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I got it used naturally for around 300 in 2005. The only weak part was the pickup..replaced that and never was happier.
I also had a Dillion Tbird and BeatleBass..all perfect copies that were built equally as good.
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Dillion makes some pretty decent knock-offs. My buddy had one of their PRS copies a while back, and that was actually a really great playing and sounding guitar. I was looking for one for a while too, but ended up getting a PRS SE instead.

As for Stingray knockoffs, I've had two OLP's and three SBMM. The OLP MM3 (5-string) was my first 5 string, and actually played really well. The electronics left much to be desired, however, but for being one of my first basses, I didn't mind. I gave that away for free to a budding bassist. I also had an MM2 (4 string). The previous owner installed a Seymour Duncan Basslines pickup, and it sounded decent. This one didn't play nearly as well as the MM3 though, and it was around this time I realized I didn't want knockoffs anymore (had knockoff P's and a Dean Warwick-thumb copy, wasn't happy with any of them). After that I got into the Sterling by Musicman (not really a knockoff), which are great basses and I like them a lot, but in the end, I just like the real deal too much, and I'm currently on my second Stingray.

There are obviously some high quality clones available with P's and J's and various others, but they aren't always easy to find. Sadly, it seems like there are far less choices when it comes to stingrays, and even fewer decent models.
 
I had an OLP Tony Levin signature and it was quite nice, IMO. The only beef I had was that it ate batteries. I don't know exactly how close it was to a Stingray but I liked it quite a bit. In fact, I liked it better than the one Stingray I was able to check out in a shop. It was in fact a little warmer or darker sounding, I don't know if it could possibly be in part due to the basswood body or maybe because the real Ray was a 4 string with brand new strings? What I gather is that the Tony Levin's were the best ones OLP made and even they were sort of hit and miss in the quality control department.
I'd go for the Sterling by Music Man at this point if I were in the market. I don't know why they used the name Sterling for the budget line when they already(and still do) had a model by that name. Seems like confusing marketing to me.
 
Okay...
OLPs weren't "real" Musicmans, they were OLPs.
At least they were licensed copies, which means that they were good enough that Musicman approved of them.


Arbors, Staggs and Jay Tursers are cheap look-alikes, so they aren't "real" Musicmans either, not by a long shot.
They aren't clones, which implies being identical in every way.
And they aren't even licensed copies.

All three of those brands are known for making cheap instruments for beginners, usually copies of popular designs.

Sterling is the only MM-style worth considering, since they are as close to the real thing as possible.

Yeah true...arbor, stagg, and jay turser makes musicman clones that aren't actual musicman basses, but really who cares. if they sound cool, that's all it matters. and yes, sterling by musicman is totally worth owning. but if you think about it, these companies make musicman clones for those who wants a musicman-styled bass guitar but are on a tight budget. and that's the one thing I admire about these companies. that they make musicman-styled bass guitars at affordable prices. I mean sure they may not real musicman basses, but at least they're close enough. if I do plan to purchase an actual musicman bass, I definitely would go with sterling by musicman.
 
I hav an SX mm clone ... or SX-ray. The neck was s-curved and the preamp was noisy. So I put a different neck on and put in a 3 band Seymour Duncan stingray preamp. Now it is a nice bass. It nails the musicman tone at 1/4 the price.

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Nice...it looks just a stagg musicman clone, but with an actual musicman-styled pick-up. the stagg musicman clone has a pole-exposed soapbar humbucker which strangely sounded like a musicman-styled pick-up. anywho, that's a nice looking bass. I'll bet it sounded pretty cool.
 
Dillion makes some pretty decent knock-offs. My buddy had one of their PRS copies a while back, and that was actually a really great playing and sounding guitar. I was looking for one for a while too, but ended up getting a PRS SE instead.

As for Stingray knockoffs, I've had two OLP's and three SBMM. The OLP MM3 (5-string) was my first 5 string, and actually played really well. The electronics left much to be desired, however, but for being one of my first basses, I didn't mind. I gave that away for free to a budding bassist. I also had an MM2 (4 string). The previous owner installed a Seymour Duncan Basslines pickup, and it sounded decent. This one didn't play nearly as well as the MM3 though, and it was around this time I realized I didn't want knockoffs anymore (had knockoff P's and a Dean Warwick-thumb copy, wasn't happy with any of them). After that I got into the Sterling by Musicman (not really a knockoff), which are great basses and I like them a lot, but in the end, I just like the real deal too much, and I'm currently on my second Stingray.

There are obviously some high quality clones available with P's and J's and various others, but they aren't always easy to find. Sadly, it seems like there are far less choices when it comes to stingrays, and even fewer decent models.

I've heard about dillion basses. I've seen their musicman clones. they look pretty cool. that dean bass you've mentioned is a dean sledgehammer. it does resemble a warwick thumb, only this bass has a musicman-styled pick-up rather than a set of jazz pick-ups.
 
I own a Fame MM400, a clone of a Stingray. Surprisingly good instrument, sweet neck and plays wonderfully. The sound nails the typical Stingray sound quite well. And it costs less than a quarter of the original one. I A/Bed it against an original MM Stingray, and a Sterling Ray 34. It wasn't quite like the real one, but I really thought it was better than the Sterling in many ways.

Really...they're that good, huh. I saw fame musicman clones on a european online music store. they look pretty cool. I don't know if there are american online music stores that carries them. if they did, that would be something.
 
People are always going to find things to hate about lesser dollar version of high dollar basses... no way around it.

However, if you're a tinkerer, the OLP and other MM clone type basses are good starting point for a fun project. You can do a lot to them that you'd be very hesitant to do to a $1200 true Musicman, IMHO. And if someone needs and insists on a true Musicman, then they should just buy one... and there's also nothing wrong with having real ones and your own tribute version you create yourself. IMHO.


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People are always going to find things to hate about lesser dollar version of high dollar basses... no way around it.

However, if you're a tinkerer, the OLP and other MM clone type basses are good starting point for a fun project. You can do a lot to them that you'd be very hesitant to do to a $1200 true Musicman, IMHO. And if someone needs and insists on a true Musicman, then they should just buy one... and there's also nothing wrong with having real ones and your own tribute version you create yourself. IMHO.


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Yeah true...there's nothing really wrong with owning the real deal if you like musicman-styled bass guitars. there's nothing wrong with owning musicman clones either. some companies makes musicman clones for those who wants a musicman-styled bass guitar at affordable prices. sure they may not be real musicman basses, but at least they're close enough. and yes, owning musicman clones is a good starting point of starting a fun project. also if musicman clones sound cool to some people, that's all it matters.
 
I see it as no different than getting a cheap Jazz or P, and hot rodding it, like guys do to Squiers and MIMs.

I know what you mean, darkstrike. rather if people buy clones of certain basses or buying the real deal, it's all about personal taste in sound quality. some people did how they are. and some people do nifty modifications to make the bass sound more improved.
 
I will never get close to clones...
If you want to get musicman, save money and buy the real deal

I understand what you're saying, bamba22. I would consider purchasing a sterling by musicman if I was going to purchase the real deal. a friend of mine plays musicman sterling basses and they sounded pretty cool. I definitely would go with a musicman sterling if I was going to buy the real deal.
 
I used to have a Jay Turser copy of a Sting Ray. Headstock looked a little different and I thought the sound was kind of thin compared to the real thing. Looked nice, not bad for the price, but not a lot of punch to it IMO.

You know...I've been wondering about jay turser musicman clones. so those basses don't have a lot of punch. the arbor musicman clone I bought seem to have a lot of punch for a passive musicman clone. especially after I equipped the bass with a set of stainless steel strings.