must everything "pop"?

[scorpionldr]

History lesson: bach wrote hundreds (if not thousands) of drivel-pieces for the church ..........so yes?

I listened to your clips man, can't get into them personally. Operative word, personally.
But here is the real thing, you criticize the theatrical aspects of Gaga and others' over the top performances as though this along with marketing were the reason she sold. Do your bands wear neutral colors have neutral haircuts use neutral instruments...etc etc
No marketing is everywhere. Even in your music. Why are you so upset about the success of others? Gaga would have been booed off stage 50 years ago, maybe you will have your day in the sun. Will you still be angsty then? nope, I bet you'll climb over this particular fence

You still try to point this opinion that I'm angry that there is a pop. That I'm some troll (Look, somebody's probably going to try to fight me on that next ). That was never the focus of this thread from the very beginning, yet so many people think I'm trying to overturn genres, and other BS.

The point I'm making is, why is everything most people don't find to have viral popularity or mass pop appeal discarded as ****?

And then we employ so called geniuses to write little jingles that have about the same amount of truly great content that I find inside of an empty coffee can? Sorry, writing a bunch of "anthem beats" and laying over a bunch of stuttering vocals/synth lines to a decent song is a ton of glitter. And the fact that this same musician whose been the focus of a thread as what I'm using to be a negative example can pull an acoustic version of the same song out of her rear with actual arrangement only pushes that point.

 

[morewattsplease]

how many scientists get their studies funded by major specified benefactors to tell people the message their benefactors want them to deliver?

Plenty.

how many specifically? and how many not? or are we going to claim intellectual superiority and then not enlighten the huddled masses?

 

[scorpionldr]

Even AIDs groups that hold so called "benefits" have a cut somewhere. Like you said, there's plenty of hypocrisy to spread around for everyone. Those people are scientists. Some good they're doing.

 

[morewattsplease]

I don't think i ever discarded your music as ****, and I really don't think thats the point youve been making here.
Frankly I find everything viral gets discarded as **** and that anything not viral is respected for doing something different.

 

[jmattbassplaya]

Considering that they're a vegetarian death metal group whose pro-animal/anti-human, and they try repeatedly to assert that man came from feces, they are at least putting forth something they believe in. They are explicitly animal rights focused, even going so far as to put slaughterhouse audio clips in their material...

So in order to share their message they created THAT album cover? Right. I'm more inclined to believe they did it because it would catch people's attention, create controversy, and produce more record sales.

how many scientists get their studies funded by major specified benefactors to tell people the message their benefactors want them to deliver?

Plenty.

Are you seriously arguing that people came from feces?

 

[scorpionldr]

I don't think i ever discarded your music as ****, and I really don't think thats the point youve been making here.
Frankly I find everything viral gets discarded as **** and that anything not viral is respected for doing something different.

sure you did! "oh well they're not making any actual money off they're doing so it can't be that great, can it?"

That's what everyone, up to the seven pages posted of this thread has asserted. That it's not pop, its not awesome, and its totally discardable, if its not at the forefront of the "scene" laid out by major corporations.

 

[morewattsplease]

Are you seriously arguing that people came from feces?

Someone tell me how to put this line in the bottom of all my posts, you are the best jmatt

 

[scorpionldr]

So in order to share their message they created THAT album cover? Right. I'm more inclined to believe they did it because it would catch people's attention, create controversy, and produce more record sales.



Are you seriously arguing that people came from feces?

its the image of a cow being used as a figure for horror. Figure it out.

plus, where's your theory as to where people came from? We did, after all, come from a mass of various materials, before becoming flesh. That could easily be construed as feces.

 

[morewattsplease]

its the image of a cow being used as a figure for horror. Figure it out.

plus, where's your theory as to where people came from? We did, after all, come from a mass of various materials, before becoming flesh. That could easily be construed as feces.

Have you ever taken a class on anthropology/biology/evolution/religion etc
feces enters the equation on an exceedingly rare basis

 

[morewattsplease]

btw just googled "humans come from feces" i got a lot of poop pictures but no scientific links.
Before you ask my definition of scientific, don't ask. I'm not here to teach a class. In fact, I'm not qualified to. I could get in a lot of trouble for that

 

[scorpionldr]

Have you ever taken a class on anthropology/biology/evolution/religion etc
feces enters the equation on an exceedingly rare basis

once again, I'll reiterate. We never conclusively found what exactly was the genesis of the creation of flesh. We have the big bang theory. That is the closest we've come to finding a true answer.

There is a reason we live according to the saying "ashes to ashes, dust to dust". and last I checked, makin boom was just a bunch of liquefied dust

 

[jmattbassplaya]

sure you did! "oh well they're not making any actual money off they're doing so it can't be that great, can it?"

That's what everyone, up to the seven pages posted of this thread has asserted. That it's not pop, its not awesome, and its totally discardable, if its not at the forefront of the "scene" laid out by major corporations.

I hate to tell you man, but if that's what you think people are asserting when they say that then you don't understand that most people here are trying to be slightly facetious so that you might be able to reflect on how outlandish you're acting.

 

[jmattbassplaya]

its the image of a cow being used as a figure for horror. Figure it out.

plus, where's your theory as to where people came from? We did, after all, come from a mass of various materials, before becoming flesh. That could easily be construed as feces.

Right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

 

[scorpionldr]

Right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

says nothing. we came from another animal's evolution. but the ape originated from something else. And that same thing originated from something before it as well. so frankly, it is entirely possible we came from the Earth's soil.

 

[jmattbassplaya]

says nothing. we came from another animal's evolution. but the ape originated from something else. And that same thing originated from something before it as well. so frankly, it is entirely possible we came from the Earth's soil.

soil =/= cow feces

 

[morewattsplease]

once again, I'll reiterate. We never conclusively found what exactly was the genesis of the creation of flesh. We have the big bang theory. That is the closest we've come to finding a true answer.

There is a reason we live according to the saying "ashes to ashes, dust to dust". and last I checked, makin boom was just a bunch of liquefied dust

We also never proved gravity....OH NO SCORPION IS FLOATING AWAY!!!!
Dogmatic empiricism deserves criticism, but empiricism deserves respectful consideration unless you are a Ph.D. in alternative theories of epistemological science...are you?

 

[scorpionldr]

I hate to tell you man, but if that's what you think people are asserting when they say that then you don't understand that most people here are trying to be slightly facetious so that you might be able to reflect on how outlandish you're acting.

Lady Gaga,Rihanna,Beyonce etc. entertains the uneducated ears.

Pop music inspires a lot of bands to try new sounds, such as yourself. Challenge you to try and make something original and unique. Which you probably wont...

Every time I see that phrase, I find myself thinking exactly two words. "Look harder"

Don't expect pop music to fall in line with what you dig

1st page. "the uneducated ear wants to be entertained by _________".
"pop is actually really innovated and if you actually tried you can learn a thing or two, which you probably won't."
"oh, you're being dismissive."

which basically says because since I look beyond what's "on the plate" that I must be some bigot ignoramus who has no knowledge of music? Which leads to the statement I made, anything that is out of realm is discarded.

 

[scorpionldr]

We also never proved gravity....OH NO SCORPION IS FLOATING AWAY!!!!
Dogmatic empiricism deserves criticism, but empiricism deserves respectful consideration unless you are a Ph.D. in alternative theories of epistemological science...are you?

once again, conclusion. There is no conclusion to the origin of animals. Therefore we have no conclusion.

like it's said before, no proof, no facts.

 

[scorpionldr]

soil =/= cow feces

 

[morewattsplease]

1st page. "the uneducated ear wants to be entertained by _________".
"pop is actually really innovated and if you actually tried you can learn a thing or two, which you probably won't."
"oh, you're being dismissive."

which basically says because since I look beyond what's "on the plate" that I must be some bigot ignoramus who has no knowledge of music? Which leads to the statement I made, anything that is out of realm is discarded.

you are making jumps from ledges that aren't there, do yourself a favor and get upset about what people say, not what what they say makes you feel