My Band was Auditioned and ...

[City]

I'm at the age where I let everyone have their dream. Hell....I still have mine, but much more realistic one now with my age. I've seen what I considered mediocre musicians absolutely be - blow it out of the park performers. I watched, I understood.

 

[Lookin4SomFunk]

I'm at the age where I let everyone have their dream. Hell....I still have mine, but much more realistic one now with my age. I've seen what I considered mediocre musicians absolutely be - blow it out of the park performers. I watched, I understood.

 

[EddiePlaysBass]

Sounds like the OP's band consists of a bunch of never-was'es. I played with a never-was, who ALMOST got a contract in the early 80's for his metal band, but then the label collapsed and he never "made it". That guy was the hardest person to work with. Can't imagine what a whole band of such people would be like.

Sounds to me they were not okay with getting replaced once the singer gets going, and felt like sabotaging the whole process (and maybe the singer to boot).

I've learned as much from people 30 yrs younger than me as I've been able to teach them. Probably more.

Wise words (as always). I hang out with colleagues who are 10 - 15 years younger than me, and I too learn as much from them as they learn from me. Even when it comes to music, but some of the "new" stuff is just not my taste. Still, for every song I recommend, I get a recommendation back, and we're always honest about what we (don't) like.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Is there a notification feature that only alerts you when the OP posts in this thread? That would be very useful right about now…

 

[DwaynieAD]

Today's teenaged Instagram super influencers are tomorrow's mall kiosk slingers.

So far more successful than most of tb

 

[J_Bass]

This instagram bashing reveals so much about the people who does it.

It's the same as if they were complaining about TV, when it "replaced" radio.


Honestly, it just shows how some people are disconnected with what's going on.

Instagram (and tik tok, like it or not), ARE the mediums. Even facebook is being let go.


An Instagram star, in the laughable sense that it's been given in this thread, probably has hundreds of thousands of followers. Maybe millions. That's a lot of customers.

Laugh all you want. Doesn't change reality. And reality says you guys are wrong.

Discloser: I don't have Facebook, Instagram, or tik tok. But I don't live under a rock.

 

[dkelley]

It’s a far longer list, including greater successes, if you factor those who appeared on these shows in other countries. In fact the U.S. versions aren’t even the original iterations of these shows.

True. However, if you look at the point I quoted and was replying to, it specified and therefore limited the answers to American Idol, and females.

Hence my list. And as noted it goes on further, there are some very successful female american idol stars that are too genre specific to be truly mainstream, such as jazz singers.

here is what I quoted in my post:

Ben Esparza said: ↑
Problem is none of the American Idol "stars" except for Kelly Clarkson are big names. I guess they learned their lesson with Clarkson and now everyone else is under contract with American Idol Inc. They can't sign on with anyone else or they'll be in breach of contract. Prostitution comes in many forms. That just my $0.02.

 

[darkwasthenight]

Yup. And if those kids fresh out of music school believe that old “this may lead to something bigger” line for one split second, then I have a bridge in NYC I want to sell them.

Well, the problem with being fresh meat is that you inevitably have to learn about the grinder...

 

[MultiScaleMale]

A lot of people are reading far too much into this thread.

 

[WG Plum]

k, let's see here:
Clarkson, underwood, pickler (huge in country world), jordin sparks (huge fame), jennifer hudson, those are the major female success stories, although others certainly have been very successful too, just not worldwide stars like this list.

I believe Mary J. Blige came up this way too.

 

[ArtechnikA]

...That's a lot of customers.

It's a lot of consumers. They are at best potential customers. Remains to be seen how many lockdown-driven 'stars' can draw real audiences in a live-music environment.

 

[J_Bass]

It's a lot of consumers. They are at best potential customers. Remains to be seen how many lockdown-driven 'stars' can draw real audiences in a live-music environment.

No, they are customers.

Just the fact of those customers following the artist's instagram, or youtube, is profit.

Product placement, the artist mentioning a brand during a video, promotion of products, etc.. Paid instagram posts by a clothes manufacturer, for instance.

Things like that. That's the business.

The live performance is probably just to increase the online following. And that's where the profit is.

 

[roccobass]

@two fingers
I fully agree on the lack of maturity.

From what I’m read here, I don’t subscribe to any notion that she suffered any mistreatment at the session. It wouldn’t make sense anyway for the musicians to do so. Making her happy makes her management want to use you again in the future, so why risk being blackballed?

I am puzzled by this management company. In the vetting process, they did notice her inexperience, but nobody picked up on her short fuse? Apparently not, since she didn’t have a handler with her at the session to run interference.

Speculation: I was wondering if this was a set up to see if she would blow up and basically make management’s decision to cut her loose easier.

The result of her whining away on social media is so juvenile, it’s almost beyond belief. However, it seems to be the rule nowadays. Her character is clear to me with that action. Immature.

To me, it also sounds like she just wanted someone to throw under the bus instead of looking in the mirror and saying: What could I have done better?

To the OP: Keep on truckin’ buddy!

@ArtechnikA
I stand corrected. The OP responded to me. My bad. The singer did not use her social account to lambast the group, but she verbally did so. I retract the above statement regarding media usage and apologies if it started a negative trend towards her.

 

[crazyBassClown]

Probably would have helped to run through the songs with her a few times with just your guitar player, playing an acoustic, to help her get the feel of singing along with someone playing live.
You should have done this a day or two before the full band rehearsal and this entire situation could have been avoided.

That's the sort of thing the management should decide and pay for.
The band are hired guns doing what they are asked, presumably including paid rehearsals. That's what I would be asking for.

the way i read the OP's comments = 19 y.o. wasn't experienced enough, the band wasn't experienced enough for the task at hand, "mangement" was not engaged enough to mitigate the developing 'dynamic' process, and the outcome was about as expected.

Management was not willing to pay enough to get experienced backing musicians and an MD so a local cover/wedding/corporate band is what they were willing to pay for and got. Expecting them to provide coaching/guidance or run the session may be a tall ask, and an unreasonable expectation.

 

[JRA]

Management was not willing to pay enough to get experienced backing musicians and an MD so a local cover/wedding/corporate band is what they were willing to pay for and got. Expecting them to provide coaching/guidance or run the session may be a tall ask, and an unreasonable expectation.

i agree 100%! ergo: my post.

 

[MichelD]

I said it before and I'll say it again.

That "gig" is not fo ryou.

Not worth the heartburn.

Carry on doing the fun things that work for you.

Drop the ditzy chick.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

I'm confident the band did a fine job playing the songs, not sure if they were her originals or she's doing covers. If the band is doing weddings and corporate gigs in the NYC area, they're maybe not the Cutting Crew, but they're going to be more than adequate to play some four chord songs. The Instastar was thrown into the deep end by management and just things didn't go well for her. She's under a ton of pressure and lashes out. And, yeah I get it. When I was 19 would I want to play with a band double and triple my age? Probably not. She needs someone from her management to act as a mentor and help her adjust, but they probably have ten other "influencers" lined up to do the same thing. Throw them in the deep end and see which ones swim and which ones sink. From her viewpoint, now she has to go back and tell her followers that the label dropped her, and everything has to be roses and unicorns on Instagram.

 

[frankie5string]

Well, that...and the fact that music is now made mostly on the computer without real instruments.

Never heard of David Foster? He was doing that WAY before any of the current stock were even a sperm. ...and yet, he's certainly been responsible for a few births in his time. But go ahead look up the history of the Synclavier. Or how about when the Yamaha DX7 hit the market - it was revolutionary, or the Korg M1 - feel old yet?

Many of the biggest hits in the 80s and 90s were done on Macs and Ataris using Notator and Digital Performer.
It's not a new thing. It's just much, much better now.

 

[john_g]

Never heard of David Foster? He was doing that WAY before any of the current stock were even a sperm. ...and yet, he's certainly been responsible for a few births in his time. But go ahead look up the history of the Synclavier. Or how about when the Yamaha DX7 hit the market - it was revolutionary, or the Korg M1 - feel old yet?

Many of the biggest hits in the 80s and 90s were done on Macs and Ataris using Notator and Digital Performer.
It's not a new thing. It's just much, much better now.

Of course its not new, what I meant is that the music isnt instrument/player based these days. Not alot of new performers putting out the hits that are on the charts that inspire younger kids to pick up an instrument. Anyone can pull up a trap beat in garageband and lazily mumble over it =)

 

[MultiScaleMale]

Of course its not new, what I meant is that the music isnt instrument/player based these days. Not alot of new performers putting out the hits that are on the charts that inspire younger kids to pick up an instrument. Anyone can pull up a trap beat in garageband and lazily mumble over it =)

I see a lot of kids playing guitar / keys / drums now. There are several School of Rock types of schools in the area and the guitar instructors mostly have wait lists. Ukulele is also semi popular. Is hip hop more popular? Certainly, but things go through cycles and phases all the time.