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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

Thanks once again for the very literary account 🙂. The description makes me think I’d like it more than I do, though. My dirt preferences are towards the completely broken but able to be implemented subtly, which is the sort of thing that your aging skateboarder analogy brings to my mind, at least. However, the Nobels sounds to my ear like a nice but fairly pedestrian overdrive, as if Magera had quit skateboarding when he was 27, got a junior executive job with a mid-tier tyre manufacturer, where he met his about-to-relapse recovering alcoholic wife in the typing pool, and is trying to suppress his suicidal ideation by getting a scooter.

But hey, our ears are all a little different, right?

I do think that getting a scooter counts as a form of suicide among professional skateboarders.
 
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Thanks once again for the very literary account 🙂. The description makes me think I’d like it more than I do, though.

I don't particularly like the Nobels ODR-B. Considering you can buy two second hand ODR-1 pedals for the money you get for a used ODR-B, I'd much rather do that. The ODR-1 is a great pedal and I totally understand why Nobels discontinued the ODR-B and ODR-S lines while continuing to produce the older ODR-1, up to this day.

However, I still feel unable to pinpoint why I don't get along with the pedal.

There are some minor points. The dynamics could be better. The EQ could have been working a bit more subtle. The whole thing could have a higher build quality. The treble could be more shiny. I guess that accumulates to a pile big enough for me to go 'nah'.
 
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This obviously is an oddball and I do admit that this pedal came into my possession with the sole intent of passing it on to a guitar player, but it's here, so let's check it out!
I don't know too much about legendary guitar amps, but apparently this is the amp-in-a-box version of the Fender Tweed Deluxe. I don't know anything about that amp and old Fender amps look all the same to my untrained eye. The enclosure and control layout look like the DCX Bass. The whole pedal looks and feels like an Origin pedal. It's so high quality it's almost boring. Bent steel enclosure, luxurious knobs ... it's all top shelf stuff and you instantly get washed over with a feeling of holding a super high quality piece of audio equipment when you take it out of the box.

Four knobs, two switches. Did those old Fenders have gain and master volume? The Deluxe 55 does.
We get a simple three knob layout with Drive, Level and Tone. Furthermore, if the Origin Website tells the truth, it was somewhat of a common practice to roll the tubes in the preamp of the old Fender. It came equipped with 12AY7, which players swapped for 12AX7 - in my experience those generally offer a bit more gain and a have a brighter grit when driven while the 12AY7 are a bit more mellow and have less grit. The Deluxe 55 offers tube rolling with the flick of a switch - the left position is the original 12AY7, the right position does the swap to 12AX7.
There is one more switch and one more knob, and this is a bit of a party trick. The DCX Bass already offered something special, giving the player the option to roll off top end depending on the amount of distortion coming from the pedal. In this here case, they tried to take care of the classic problem you run into when you stack preamps: The EQ curves of the preamps stack as well. So when you use a device with a classic Fender tone stack that has bass and treble as boost only and mids as cut only, you'll end up with a scooped signal. Now run a Fender-Amp-In-A-Box pedal into that amp and you'll have way too much of a scoop. The second switch has three positions. The flat setting does nothing, as does the Post-EQ knob when the switch is in that position. The other two settings are meant for Fender and Marshall style amps. My guess is that the Deluxe 55 will counter the baked in tone curve of Fender or Marshall'esque amps and give you the option of using the pedal and amp combination as a two channel system instead of having to balance EQs and having to compromise on both ends.

Well, the only thing that interests me is how well it does on bass. The manual claims that the Tone knob controls the amount of treble and also boosts gain when set past 2 o'clock.
Of course I did measure what it does.

With Drive and Level at noon, sweeping through the tone knob in both the 12AX7 and 12AY7 position yields the following:
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On screen, this looks like a capable bass pedal. No signal loss in the lows - with the tone towards minimum, there's even a healthy bass boost going on.
 
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I don't particularly like the Nobels ODR-B. Considering you can buy two second hand ODR-1 pedals for the money you get for a used ODR-B, I'd much rather do that. The ODR-1 is a great pedal and I totally understand why Nobels discontinued the ODR-B and ODR-S lines while continuing to produce the older ODR-1, up to this day.

However, I still feel unable to pinpoint why I don't get along with the pedal.

There are some minor points. The dynamics could be better. The EQ could have been working a bit more subtle. The whole thing could have a higher build quality. The treble could be more shiny. I guess that accumulates to a pile big enough for me to go 'nah'.
Have you ever used the ODR-CS? Seems like that might be a replacement or stand in for the ODR-B.

 
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This obviously is an oddball and I do admit that this pedal came into my possession with the sole intent of passing it on to a guitar player, but it's here, so let's check it out!
I don't know too much about legendary guitar amps, but apparently this is the amp-in-a-box version of the Fender Tweed Deluxe. I don't know anything about that amp and old Fender amps look all the same to my untrained eye. The enclosure and control layout look like the DCX Bass. The whole pedal looks and feels like an Origin pedal. It's so high quality it's almost boring. Bent steel enclosure, luxurious knobs ... it's all top shelf stuff and you instantly get washed over with a feeling of holding a super high quality piece of audio equipment when you take it out of the box.

Four knobs, two switches. Did those old Fenders have gain and master volume? The Deluxe 55 does.
We get a simple three knob layout with Drive, Level and Tone. Furthermore, if the Origin Website tells the truth, it was somewhat of a common practice to roll the tubes in the preamp of the old Fender. It came equipped with 12AY7, which players swapped for 12AX7 - in my experience those generally offer a bit more gain and a have a brighter grit when driven while the 12AY7 are a bit more mellow and have less grit. The Deluxe 55 offers tube rolling with the flick of a switch - the left position is the original 12AY7, the right position does the swap to 12AX7.
There is one more switch and one more knob, and this is a bit of a party trick. The DCX Bass already offered something special, giving the player the option to roll off top end depending on the amount of distortion coming from the pedal. In this here case, they tried to take care of the classic problem you run into when you stack preamps: The EQ curves of the preamps stack as well. So when you use a device with a classic Fender tone stack that has bass and treble as boost only and mids as cut only, you'll end up with a scooped signal. Now run a Fender-Amp-In-A-Box pedal into that amp and you'll have way too much of a scoop. The second switch has three positions. The flat setting does nothing, as does the Post-EQ knob when the switch is in that position. The other two settings are meant for Fender and Marshall style amps. My guess is that the Deluxe 55 will counter the baked in tone curve of Fender or Marshall'esque amps and give you the option of using the pedal and amp combination as a two channel system instead of having to balance EQs and having to compromise on both ends.

Well, the only thing that interests me is how well it does on bass. The manual claims that the Tone knob controls the amount of treble and also boosts gain when set past 2 o'clock.
Of course I did measure what it does.

With Drive and Level at noon, sweeping through the tone knob in both the 12AX7 and 12AY7 position yields the following:
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On screen, this looks like a capable bass pedal. No signal loss in the lows - with the tone towards minimum, there's even a healthy bass boost going on.
The original “Fender Deluxe” amp just had a Volume and a Tone control, in this case the “Level” control on the Origin is a clean volume control that isn’t found on the original amp, while the “Drive” is the analog to the “Instrument Volume” control from the original amp. It’s the same feature found in the Bassrig Fifteen and SV which are also based on amps without separate gain and volume controls, so you can get the emulated power-amp saturation at any volume
 
The original “Fender Deluxe” amp just had a Volume and a Tone control, in this case the “Level” control on the Origin is a clean volume control that isn’t found on the original amp, while the “Drive” is the analog to the “Instrument Volume” control from the original amp. It’s the same feature found in the Bassrig Fifteen and SV which are also based on amps without separate gain and volume controls, so you can get the emulated power-amp saturation at any volume
Good thing Origin added this one super useful feature even though the original amps did not have it.
 
It feels exactly what you'd suspect if you plugged your bass into a 70 year old guitar combo. A small, open back one with a whopping 15 watts of power.
That is to say it had 15 watts when it was made.
Plug in your six string, send it a low E (not even B) with a strong fundamental and the speaker farts out immediately. Preamp, power amp and speaker will all be equally out of their depth and make struggle noises.

It's really not great.
 
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Good thing Origin added this one super useful feature even though the original amps did not have it.
Yeah particularly with an SVT (getting gnarly drive through a 70s SVT through an 810 means playing dumb loud!)- without a volume control that wouldn’t really be practical as a pedal (though the new Walrus Mantle DI confusingly forces you to push the volume to a crazy degree in order to push the internal output transformer, which is a confusing design choice to me first such a pricey unit). I appreciate that Origin is one of the few analog pedal companies attempting to authentically emulate an entire amp circuit vs just the preamp!
 
It feels exactly what you'd suspect if you plugged your bass into a 70 year old guitar combo. A small, open back one with a whopping 15 watts of power.
That is to say it had 15 watts when it was made.
Plug in your six string, send it a low E (not even B) with a strong fundamental and the speaker farts out immediately. Preamp, power amp and speaker will all be equally out of their depth and make struggle noises.

It's really not great.
Yeah not a big surprise to me- my longtime bandmate had a vintage Fender Princeton Reverb that is similar at least in power and speaker and the thing sounded freaking amazing for clean to low-gain guitars (usually in recording environments) but quickly became a fuzz pedal when pushed or with much low frequency input. We did use it to record some Rhodes piano once that sounded amazing even with the low register tones, but we had to record it at a very low volume to not fart out.

I suspect one of those amps or that Origin pedal might work really nice in a crossover rig with bass, just sending the treble and some mids to it (I used to do this with another more modern Fender guitar amp paired with an SVT for the lows and low mids). There is an edge you can get from those small speaker/low-wattage combos that is hard to get from more powerful speakers and amps
 
I’ve just taken possession of a bit of an oddball — not a dirt pedal, but a very dirty delay (as I may have mentioned here before, probably about my favourite effect). This one is combined with another of my favourite effects, a compressor/limiter, in the form of the Fish Circuits Echo Limiteur.

It’s extraordinary — I’ve just finished playing a nonstop 40 minute improvisation in D minor, ended only by my dogs’ sadness (they’re Spinal Tap fans). It has two footswitchable "channels", each with its own "swell" (feedback, essentially, although there is something of a swell in the repeat volume as the chain begins) control. The channels share "blend" and "echo" (delay time) controls, the latter having a "rng" (range) switch between "lo" and "hi". The lo setting engages an analog MN3005 bucket brigade chip with its delay time stretched out to 600ish ms, the last 40% or so of available delay being very degraded, noisy and broken. the hi side adds a PT2399 digital chip, equally broken, but with a somewhat different almost bitcrushed or radio static character, and extends the delay out to something approaching 1200 ms. There is no modulation or any tone controls, just as god intended.

Channel A is just a straightforward delay. I love the broken repeats, which work pertectly with my newly implemented home wet-dry dual mono rig. The magic is in Channel B, wherein the swell is controlled by an adjustable limiter circuit that essentially allows the player to control the feedback with note dynamics, producing ducking and runaway feedback at will. It really is playing two instruments with a single set of strings, the effect heightened by the tonal degradation of the repeats, and still further by the very different wet and dry rigs in my setup. Fabulous, and made all the sweeter by the fact that it nearly didn’t arrive at all, having been swallowed up into the bowels of Brisbane Airport for three weeks before finally being disgorged into the hold of a New Zealand-bound plane 🙂.
 
I’ve just taken possession of a bit of an oddball — not a dirt pedal, but a very dirty delay (as I may have mentioned here before, probably about my favourite effect). This one is combined with another of my favourite effects, a compressor/limiter, in the form of the Fish Circuits Echo Limiteur.

It’s extraordinary — I’ve just finished playing a nonstop 40 minute improvisation in D minor, ended only by my dogs’ sadness (they’re Spinal Tap fans). It has two footswitchable "channels", each with its own "swell" (feedback, essentially, although there is something of a swell in the repeat volume as the chain begins) control. The channels share "blend" and "echo" (delay time) controls, the latter having a "rng" (range) switch between "lo" and "hi". The lo setting engages an analog MN3005 bucket brigade chip with its delay time stretched out to 600ish ms, the last 40% or so of available delay being very degraded, noisy and broken. the hi side adds a PT2399 digital chip, equally broken, but with a somewhat different almost bitcrushed or radio static character, and extends the delay out to something approaching 1200 ms. There is no modulation or any tone controls, just as god intended.

Channel A is just a straightforward delay. I love the broken repeats, which work pertectly with my newly implemented home wet-dry dual mono rig. The magic is in Channel B, wherein the swell is controlled by an adjustable limiter circuit that essentially allows the player to control the feedback with note dynamics, producing ducking and runaway feedback at will. It really is playing two instruments with a single set of strings, the effect heightened by the tonal degradation of the repeats, and still further by the very different wet and dry rigs in my setup. Fabulous, and made all the sweeter by the fact that it nearly didn’t arrive at all, having been swallowed up into the bowels of Brisbane Airport for three weeks before finally being disgorged into the hold of a New Zealand-bound plane 🙂.
Maybe I missed it, but does the "oddball" have a name? :)
 
I appreciate that Origin is one of the few analog pedal companies attempting to authentically emulate an entire amp circuit vs just the preamp!

As far as I can be the judge, I feel like Origin are among the select few who do a replica of the amp in its entirety.
The Bassrig SV is a good example to illustrate that:
I've played SVT rigs, though I never owned one myself. In my book, this is a surprisingly versatile rig, because I somehow always end up sorting the SVT into the "Slightly dirty rock tone with incredible amounts of beef" stack. Of the six million pedal SVT recreations , 5.99999 million are just that. Pedals that get you a dirty tone with lots of beef. Like the one snap shot of the SVT - which is kind of accurate and also true, but it's only one facet of the amp that can actually do a lot more.
The Bassrig feels about as versatile as the amp itself. You can absolutely use it for that beefy rock sound and for that, it's actually one of my all-time-favorite dirt pedals. But you can squeeze a healthy number of different sounds beyond beefy rock out of that thing, and it does not feel wrong or sound weak doing so.
 
Here are two samples of the D55.
This is me trying to get a tasteful low gain drive sound out of it:
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And this is me, stacking the D55 into the slightly dirty Meatsmoke:

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I don’t hate it. I wouldn’t pay Origin Effects money for it, but I could use it. It sounds as though it’s on the verge of giving up even at that low gain, and I quite like the effect, especially pushed a bit more and in only one side of a 2-amp rig.

The Oats and Molasses VB-2, which has been discussed here before, and which I already liked, really shines in this set up. I’m finding a number of dirt boxes that I had tired of are getting a new lease of life in the new arrangement, which is quite different than having them in a blended loop. Happy days. 🙂
 
I just bought an old ghost from the past.

When I got back into bass pedals, which was around 2013 or thereabouts, after playing straight into the amp the decade before, I was looking for something to give me a throaty sound with some beef. One of the guitarists I was playing with at the time lent me a MI Audio Blueboy Deluxe, which I really liked. So much that I bought it off him and used it for a long while, but I sold it just before I got into the whole Jounal thing.

Well, I found one again and snagged it up. It's coming in from the Netherlands, so it might take a while to get here.
 
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I just bought an old ghost from the past.

When I got back into bass pedals, which was around 2013 or thereabouts, after playing straight into the amp the decade before, I was looking for something to give me a throaty sound with some beef. One of the guitarists I was playing with at the time lent me a MI Audio Blueboy Deluxe, which I really liked. So much that I bought it off him and used it for a long while, but I sold it just before I got into the whole Jounal thing.

Well, I found one again and snagged it up. It's coming in from the Netherlands, so it might take a while to get here.
I used to swear by one of those too! I can’t recall what I replaced it with as my main OD pedal, but might have sold it after the Darkglass Vintage first came out (I bonded with that pedal immediately for my main band at the time).