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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

@el murdoque I think that sounds like a very sound plan! I think going either analytical with your playing, or trying to knit something more creative together would work well for demonstration purposes. But, regardless of what you opt for, the recording chain sounds like it should do the trick nicely.

Looking forward to exploring The Archive once it's operational :)
 
I think it's a pretty well-rounded loop, offering a bunch of different techniques. I see no reason not to proceed in that fashion. To perhaps be fussy, it would also be interesting to hear different settings on the same pedals.

While knowing that part of the reason for the tones you've got here is indeed your bass/strings, it's interesting to note that we are aiming for some rather different flavours of dirt! This is definitely more wooly and thick than I tend to strive for, and less hi-mid/treble content.

If these are the low gain OD sounds, I'm curious to hear what happens when these pedals start to get into Angry territory! LOL.
 
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I think it's a pretty well-rounded loop, offering a bunch of different techniques. I see no reason not to proceed in that fashion. To perhaps be fussy, it would also be interesting to hear different settings on the same pedals.

While knowing that part of the reason for the tones you've got here is indeed your bass/strings, it's interesting to note that we are aiming for some rather different flavours of dirt! This is definitely more wooly and thick than I tend to strive for, and less hi-mid/treble content.

If these are the low gain OD sounds, I'm curious to hear what happens when these pedals start to get into Angry territory! LOL.

I do think that this is, of course up to you guys. Maybe I dial in the tone I like and put out the clip and then you might respond with certain wishes, which I might or might not accommodate by dialing in that tone and upload it.
 
They all sound like they are bordering on fuzz territory rather than low gain overdrive like I am used to. But, we all have different tastes and that appears to be the sound you gravitate to. I like more of a grindy overdrive. I noticed the playing was a bit reserved and not a lot of digging in and really getting after it.
 
Mr. Murdoque, how about deducting out the Cali, RFE and BigSky as well. (As much of a proponent as I am about testing pedals in a complete chain :)

Actually, you are right.
If I send the pedal through my actual setup in my actual settings,
you will be getting thicc and wooly every time.

If I go for something more bare bones, you might get a better view of what that pedal is capable of in the hands of someone who has not made it a habit to only buy gear if it comes with a bass knob and then go ahead and dime it.

I will rig something these days and make another few clips.

What does TB suggest should go into such a signal chain?
 
That FPT is something else, by the way.

When you read up on Audio Kitchen and how the pedal was created - it is done by people who use tubes (or valves, since they are Bri'ish) for everything, who sat down and tried to emulate tube sounds with solid state technology, and the FPT is how close they have gotten.

To my ear, the whole breakup is very solid state sounding - as I said, the FPT delivers the kind of dirt I would have wanted from the Colour Box. However, It's not tube-like in the way it sounds.
There's more to a pedal than mere sound, though. The interaction between your fingers and your ears is something special here. It gives you a feeling of playing an amp that is pushed too hard for comfort. Back off a wee bit and we snap back into comfy territory, and while many pedals can easily do this, they all feel a bit different under your fingers. The FPT somehow is addictive in that regard.
I've had it in a chain with the Wampler Pantheon and the Hamstead Subspace yesterday. I dialed around on the sounds. The other pedals offered a bigger bass response, they offered pearly highs and ... more HiFi.
Yet I kept going back to the FPT because of how the interaction of my plucking fingers and the breakup of the pedal felt. It was just right, but on top of that it was somewhat different to .... basically anything I played before.
 
I'm doing two things in parallel right now: the second board is finally coming together.
I've recently acquired a second bass, a Music Man Bongo in a weird limited edition, with single humbucker and three band EQ. Think of it as a six string Stingray and you get the idea.
With the 18V preamp and the massive punch this delivers, It's quite the task to balance all the gain knobs to make the board usable for both basses. That's why I gave up and am building a second one.

The tone shaping tool that will be used for shaping the tone is the Empress Para EQ Mk II Deluxe.
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That's a lot of knobs right there.
This pedal, used as a preamp would make some people happy, but it is, for my personal taste, a bit sober and a bit transparent, very well behaved and no magic tone sweetener. This is a tool. And what a tool it is.

The bottom row with the four black knobs is HPF, shelving lows, shelving highs and LPF. That is a pedal's worth of function already.
That means you can use the three fully parametric bands (note the adjustable Q) for fun in the midrange.

I have a Effectrode LA-1A incoming which I want to use for very gentle compression, just a barely-there touch, and for adding the magic tube sparkle, and of course using the transformer driven balanced output.
If that does not work out, I'll have to tell @Charlie Tuna that he'll never see his Broughton Studio One again.

On top of that, I have a Spaceman Equinox here and will determine if a Pultec EQ has a place in the chain, too.

I'll wait until the LA-1A is in, then I'll send the loop through that setup to see if it's better to showcase dirt pedals.
 
I’ve been reading this Jounal, finding it fascinating. Not sure if I skipped a few pages, I can’t recall reading a final verdict on the Crazy Tube Circuits Locomotive. Did it just disappear without a trace, was there a deeper analysis on it?

There is one available semi-locally at the moment, I’m thinking of making an offer. Or getting a Saturn VI instead.
 
I’ve been reading this Jounal, finding it fascinating. Not sure if I skipped a few pages, I can’t recall reading a final verdict on the Crazy Tube Circuits Locomotive. Did it just disappear without a trace, was there a deeper analysis on it?

There is one available semi-locally at the moment, I’m thinking of making an offer. Or getting a Saturn VI instead.

I mentioned that I sold it in post #103. I felt that it was redundant when I got used to the Barbershop.
I still think it's a great pedal. It is tube driven and the only tone control is a passive hi cut, but if adding a bit of tube mojo, tube saturation or real tube grind into your signal, look no further, it can do it.
Plus, it's pink.
 
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I mentioned that I sold it in post #103. I felt that it was redundant when I got used to the Barbershop.
I still think it's a great pedal. It is tube driven and the only tone control is a passive hi cut, but if adding a bit of tube mojo, tube saturation or real tube grind into your signal, look no further, it can do it.
Plus, it's pink.

Thanks, must have missed that. If it is similar to the Barbershop, I’ll pass and go for Saturn VI instead - I already have a Barbershop v2 that I like a lot, would like to find a Modèle B.

Speaking of planets, after writing the previous message I visited JPTR FX homepage, checked the Jive, added it in the shopping cart and just out of curiosity clicked on checkout, just to check the shipping cost.

My jaw dropped. So I did what I had to.