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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

Hey, I'm not just here for half-baked philosophy, either. I got most of a page, and a couple frequency response graphs, out of you (and then an entire subsequent panegyric!) with regards to the Wampler Belle/Nobels ODR circuits. I'm an honest-to-goodness contributor, thank you very much!
The point I was stressing was that this thread would be all dirt, if it were not for you, who brought in a side dish of half baked philosophy.
Stating that fact was in no way diminishing your accomplishments on the dirt front - and if you think otherwise, you're a little sissy and you're wrong.
Now go ahead and buy yourself an Audio Kitchen Fake Plastic Trees.
 
Mr. Murdoque, I don't think anybody understands the magnitude of what the Fake Plastic Trees accomplishes. Words have failed to portray that it is THE most tube amp-like pedal that has been created to date. It has all the sound and FEEL characteristics of a tube amp, not just a few colors. You can lead a horse to water...
 
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@el murdoque Just let me know when you wish finish fully baking this side dish; I'll start brushing off the all old epistemology, existentialism, and social contract texts I've got laying around somewhere. We'll blast some dub plates, and hammer down deep. I'm playing in Ireland in January; it's well more than halfway between Canada and Germany. Meet me there and we'll do this properly! :)

Alas I have no practical need for a FPT at this moment in time. And my financial situation isn't such that I can't engage in pedal-based frivolity right now. Once such a time allows, I will try to find one. But in the meanwhile, I'll put it in the official Queue of Pedal Purchases.
 
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… play 90's Swedish Doom Metal.

Cool story, bro. Now do Entombed?


THE most tube amp-like pedal that has been created to date.

A fkn ‘nother one?!

Speaking of Swedes, did a Blueberry, Blackberry, or variant, ever make it to casa Murdoque?

And speaking of doom metal, the bass runs through a Blueberry for the entirety of Yob’s “Clearing A Path To Ascend” album.

 
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Cool story, bro. Now do Entombed?

Good Idea! I was stuck with early Lake Of Tears and Amorphis.


A fkn ‘nother one?!

Speaking of Swedes, did a Blueberry, Blackberry, or variant, ever make it to casa Murdoque?

I've played a One Control Silver Bee for a bit, that was as close as I got to BJFE pedals. What's the difference between the Honey Bee and the Blueberry?

As to "another one", I want to say that I don't really feel like the FPT mimics a tube amp in the way most other pedals that claim to do this do. I'm not saying that it nails certain aspects with grace and precision, but I absolutely am saying that when you've played a bunch of pedals that claim to mimic a tube amp, you have a certain expectation of yet another of those.

You open your mental drawer for tube-amp-pedals and try to put the FTP in, but it won't close with the FPT inside.

It is hard to describe, but it is, at the same time less than that but also more.
I often ran across pedals that interpreted the 'Sounds like a tube amp' claim with being able to hover on the brink of breakup, being touch sensitive, clearing up with a slight reduction of the volume knob, and doing their best to emulate the sound of either only the driven preamp tube or even the power stage compression and saturation.

The problem is, of course, that unless you try to mimic a certain tube head's sound, everybody has a different opinion on what makes a tube head sound and feel like a tube head, and while some people will say that no solid state pedal has come as close as the FPT did, others will claim that it is quite far off the mark.
I think the people at Audio Kitchen have a thorough understanding of tubes in audio application - given that the FPT is the only soild state device they sell. And these people claim that they spent ages making the FPT sound and react like a tube driven device, so there MUST be something in there - but once you start twisting knobs you will find things that are not found among the array of "sounds like a driven tube amp" pedals.

There are demos on YT. I watched them, and could recreate those tones with ease - which also is not that common in my book.

And speaking of doom metal, the bass runs through a Blueberry for the entirety of Yob’s “Clearing A Path To Ascend” album.



I shall watch/listen as soon as I can - the office might not be the best place, though.
 
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Good Idea! I was stuck with early Lake Of Tears and Amorphis.

I've played a One Control Silver Bee for a bit, that was as close as I got to BJFE pedals. What's the difference between the Honey Bee and the Blueberry?

As to "another one", I want to say that I don't really feel like the FPT mimics a tube amp in the way most other pedals that claim to do this do. I'm not saying that it nails certain aspects with grace and precision, but I absolutely am saying that when you've played a bunch of pedals that claim to mimic a tube amp, you have a certain expectation of yet another of those.

You open your mental drawer for tube-amp-pedals and try to put the FTP in, but it won't close with the FPT inside.

It is hard to describe, but it is, at the same time less than that but also more.
I often ran across pedals that interpreted the 'Sounds like a tube amp' claim with being able to hover on the brink of breakup, being touch sensitive, clearing up with a slight reduction of the volume knob, and doing their best to emulate the sound of either only the driven preamp tube or even the power stage compression and saturation.

The problem is, of course, that unless you try to mimic a certain tube head's sound, everybody has a different opinion on what makes a tube head sound and feel like a tube head, and while some people will say that no solid state pedal has come as close as the FPT did, others will claim that it is quite far off the mark.
I think the people at Audio Kitchen have a thorough understanding of tubes in audio application - given that the FPT is the only soild state device they sell. And these people claim that they spent ages making the FPT sound and react like a tube driven device, so there MUST be something in there - but once you start twisting knobs you will find things that are not found among the array of "sounds like a driven tube amp" pedals.

There are demos on YT. I watched them, and could recreate those tones with ease - which also is not that common in my book.



I shall watch/listen as soon as I can - the office might not be the best place, though.

Thanks. Checked out the FPT bass demo by Audio Kitchen and much more often than not I was getting synth vibes. Tube-driven synth drive maybe.

“I've played a One Control Silver Bee for a bit, that was as close as I got to BJFE pedals. What's the difference between the Honey Bee and the Blueberry?”

Honey Bee is a fantastic drive for guitar. If someone says “best ever” I wouldn’t try to argue. Some use it on bass, but not many. Could be brilliant.

Its mom & dad is the Blueberry Bass OD. If someone says “best ever” a great many will agree, and it’s a reasonable position.

Silver Bee perhaps sits in the middle of Honey Bee and Blueberry. I’ve only used the Bearfoot version. Presuming the One Control is the same, which is *not* a reasonable presumption but it should hold true that the key differences between any Silver Bee in general vs any BBBOD is that on the Silver Bee the drive is milder at the lowest settings and the low end is tighter, while the Blueberry is a touch more “organic” and more tame in the highs but with a perfectly sweet berry taste in the mids unmatched by any pedal circuit.

Imagine if the Barbershop’s grizzled brother emerged intact after a couple decades living a life of low bias, possessing irresistible wit and charm. Blueberry.

For your old flats, sitting in a mix, Silver Bee may be the better choice.

Or Blackberry.

Or any of the above stacked? Into a Barbershop is an excellent choice.

12v? 15v? 5v? 9?

A warning. If you go much further down this tone tunnel your mental drawer for tube-amp-pedals will soon overfloweth. There’s no reason not to obsess between variants of each BJFe, One Control, and Bearfoot variation of this circuit. Custom one-off hand builds by Bjorn himself to Bearfoot’s “Beest” mutations.

Beyond that, the list of overdrives made by builders not directly citing BJFe / Blueberry as a foundational starting point is not short and stretches from U.S. boutique builders with their own legendary cachet to Asian low-dough clones.

Captain Ahab had a far simpler, less time consuming and costly obsession.

I think you could handle it, if this thread’s any indication, but best forget I mentioned it.
 
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Imagine if the Barbershop’s grizzled brother emerged intact after a couple decades living a life of low bias, possessing irresistible wit and charm. Blueberry.

It seems like this sentence of yours will cost me a lot of money -
unless you enlighten me any further.
I do think that I will have to look for those ugly boxes where the name is smeared on with a white sharpie that has had better days?

I realize there are some that say Blueberry Futura and some that say only Blueberry. Any preference here?
What would be a good price, are these really going for north of 300 bucks?

Are the soulless copies made by OneControl and such worth looking into or is only the real deal the real deal?
I'm pulling the lid on that can of worms now - help me get my bearings before any of them slip away!
 
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Back to the Fake Plastic Trees. Did I mention that I like that pedal?
Last Weekend, we (the FPT and me) attended a jam session.
Dub music was the topic. The FPT set to solid sizzle played into the BDPG got me a warm and super fat synth like sound with all the glory, but none of the usual restrictions (that come into play when you break out the OC-2 and have to play so it tracks). The way the pedal clears up on note decay sounds a bit like an envelope low pass in a mix, and it is very easy to set and control. I used that effect sparingly, but when I did, people were cracking smiles and bobbing their heads.

Last night, I invested some time to further investigate the Tube-Amp claim of theirs.
I do admit that I found it a bit hilarious at first.
The FPT in the demos sounds a bit unique, like a very special farty drive that can do a few interesting tones.
Those tones from the demo were surprisingly easy to recreate at home, and they really did sound like the demo.
Now, careful toying around with both gain and branch (treble) got me into a territory that really is the zone of a not-yet-fully-stressed-but-definitely-slightly-irritated preamp tube. What I want to stress yet again is how it feels in combination with how it sounds.
I ran the Beta V, the SS/BS Mini, the Spaceman Saturn VI, Wampler Belle and Wampler Pantheon Deluxe into the board and twisted a lot of knobs to find the perfect spot. However, there was something lacking, something I could not put my finger on. Every single time I switched back to FPT, it was there again.

It might just be a mad love-at-first-sight affair of mine, but all the aforementioned pedals sounded boring, bland and kind of all the same to my ears and felt numb to my fingers, when clicking the FPT into the signal chain was a spark of joy.
 
It seems like this sentence of yours will cost me a lot of money -
unless you enlighten me any further.
I do think that I will have to look for those ugly boxes where the name is smeared on with a white sharpie that has had better days?

I realize there are some that say Blueberry Futura and some that say only Blueberry. Any preference here?
What would be a good price, are these really going for north of 300 bucks?

Are the soulless copies made by OneControl and such worth looking into or is only the real deal the real deal?
I'm pulling the lid on that can of worms now - help me get my bearings before any of them slip away!

You ask the tough questions. First and foremost of yourself, while blazing a glorious path at your own pace and terms through the dirtosphere. Respect!

Quite interactive controls,
Parts, circuits, vary.
Play this game? Already won.

Futura vs. Blueberry depends on *which* Futura, and perhaps which Blueberry.

Is the “B” control for Body (like the “N” for nature tilt EQ but maybe not) or is it for bass? Is “T” for treble, or tone? What does it actually do? Does it boost, or cut, or tilt while doing whatever it does? Which frequencies? Pre or post Drive? Is there a rare quirk in sound or circuit a reseller is unaware of? Who knows?

One Control comes closest to trying to answer, but English translations by Japanese trying to make sense of a Swedish accented explanation of specifics usng non-specific language is… bordering on a prank. It’s charming, puzzling, or aggravating, depending on the audience.

A better question may be “who cares?” This journey is not ideal for those seeking reward, rather a reward for those who’ve already arrived at a place where this makes its own perfect sense before a sound or payment is ever made. To those who laugh at the very idea I can only say I recall those days wistfully, and with a bit of envy.

Some examples in this very short thread - https://www.talkbass.com/threads/bjfe-blackberry-od.1455383/

In Europe, and you’re practically neighbors, might as well go direct to the living legend of OD himself, Björn Juhl. He’s very giving of his time, thoughts, and works in progress. Absolutely worth the time and money to interact with him.

Do the world and future generations a huge favor and make it a podcast series from the start? You two waxing poetic on overdrives could be the next great contribution to Western Civ. Co-host episodes with other revered builders? Debates? Have BJFe fans call in as quests?

You could start with a Bearfoot or One Control version however, saving much time and money. If any of those get you to the precipice of Victory, then perhaps consider a master work by the Master (and podcast series!).

I summarized thoughts and comparisons which may help, here: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/blueberry-bod-alternatives.1469911/page-8#post-24436864

Bear in mind; since that posting Fuzzrocious released the Dark Driving V3 and Bearfoot recently teased a new Queen Beest [sic][also sick!] that will presumably be … new … in some way.

I’ve been afraid to ask what Björn is up to, but he has shared how happy he is with the One Control partnership (stark contrast to his past collab attempts, and OC’s CEO is a bassist BTW). He’s been on a couple long-form podcasts the past year, found on YT, and doesn’t seem to be slowing so it may not be long before a cool new something drops. For bass I’d bet on a deluxe Silver Peg or maybe a bass amp… and imagine if it’d sound as awesome as his guitar amp made by One Control?!

Further, this thread’s an illuminating (and likely costly) read: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/bearfoot-blueberry-fans-unite-enter-the-queen-bee-beest.1472050/

Also that’s a great place to ask more tough questions of my fellow cultists aficionados and connoisseurs.

Björn gives us a cornucopia of killer, but never complete clarity. This is true art, and describes the perfect overdrive.
 
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Thank you for shedding some light on that topic.
I've been me for a few decades, so I can safely assume to be an expert on the topic of knowing myself - and with that expertise, I can claim that I can safely omit the Barefoot and One Control pedals.
There'd only be two possible outcomes:
1. I don't like the OC pedal.
2. I do like the OC pedal.
In both cases, I'd start wondering how this compares to the original, and I'd only sleep easy again after getting my hands on one - so I'll simply skip that bit and get myself a Blueberry from the Man himself as soon as I've found out how to do that. There's an email on the BJFe Facebook page and I used that for a start.

As to the three knob or four knob version - I think that decision is up to the universe.
 
Thanks. Checked out the FPT bass demo by Audio Kitchen and much more often than not I was getting synth vibes. Tube-driven synth drive maybe.

“I've played a One Control Silver Bee for a bit, that was as close as I got to BJFE pedals. What's the difference between the Honey Bee and the Blueberry?”

Honey Bee is a fantastic drive for guitar. If someone says “best ever” I wouldn’t try to argue. Some use it on bass, but not many. Could be brilliant.

Its mom & dad is the Blueberry Bass OD. If someone says “best ever” a great many will agree, and it’s a reasonable position.

Silver Bee perhaps sits in the middle of Honey Bee and Blueberry. I’ve only used the Bearfoot version. Presuming the One Control is the same, which is *not* a reasonable presumption but it should hold true that the key differences between any Silver Bee in general vs any BBBOD is that on the Silver Bee the drive is milder at the lowest settings and the low end is tighter, while the Blueberry is a touch more “organic” and more tame in the highs but with a perfectly sweet berry taste in the mids unmatched by any pedal circuit.

Imagine if the Barbershop’s grizzled brother emerged intact after a couple decades living a life of low bias, possessing irresistible wit and charm. Blueberry.

For your old flats, sitting in a mix, Silver Bee may be the better choice.

Or Blackberry.

Or any of the above stacked? Into a Barbershop is an excellent choice.

12v? 15v? 5v? 9?

A warning. If you go much further down this tone tunnel your mental drawer for tube-amp-pedals will soon overfloweth. There’s no reason not to obsess between variants of each BJFe, One Control, and Bearfoot variation of this circuit. Custom one-off hand builds by Bjorn himself to Bearfoot’s “Beest” mutations.

Beyond that, the list of overdrives made by builders not directly citing BJFe / Blueberry as a foundational starting point is not short and stretches from U.S. boutique builders with their own legendary cachet to Asian low-dough clones.

Captain Ahab had a far simpler, less time consuming and costly obsession.

I think you could handle it, if this thread’s any indication, but best forget I mentioned it.

Pretty accurate re: Silver Bee.

I have an original early run BJFE Blueberry and a BJFE Silver Bee 5k that Bjorn made for me. I’ve never tried the OC versions of either, so can’t comment as to how they stack up.

The Silver Bee has a tighter low end, but it can still be very full if you crank the bass/bottom control. Its not as “gooey” or “rubbery” as the Blueberry, but I think its strength lies in other areas. The Silver Bee seems to push the mid-mids more than the low mids of the Blueberry. Furthermore, on the 5K version the “X” knob allows you to control how prominent these are and the degree of compression/saturation or openness, and how these react to digging in. Like all BJFE pedals the controls are VERY interactive, and reward prolonged experimentation with both settings and basses/strings. Rather than use the Silver Bee as a low gain/Motown-type pedal, I find it works better at “defining” mid content with a pleasant but not harsh or overbearing overdrive, and is GREAT for getting the bass to either sit or stand out in the mix without sounding nasal or honky. I particularly like using it with passive jazz basses. I need to shield the LED though…it has the brightest eye-burning pale LILAC LED I’ve ever encountered….

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To be honest with you, this whole Blueberry thing has been going on for way too long now.
A Black/Blueberry or some variant has been suggested by fellow connoisseurs time and again, and for some obscure reason, I chose to ignore it time and again.

On the very first post of this jounal, I already mentioned it, as one of the TB favorites.

Two questions remain:
1. I found a Blueberry. It has four knobs, labeled V, D, T, B in shaky handwriting.
I guess that this is Volume, Drive, Treble and Bass.
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Is this one you BJFe experienced people would recommend getting? I don't need to say that it's
not cheap, I assume.

2. If the above is not what I should absolutely get, could anyone tell me what to do to get in touch with BJ himself? I found an email address on the facebook page, but that is not working.
 
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I'm fairly sure this is a Blueberry Futura X (3BODX),
but with the 'Futura' missing on the enclosure.
The BJFE Blueberry Futura X is an evolution of BJFE's standard overdrive for bass, the Blueberry Bass Overdrive (3BOD).
Flat, high response, warm overdrive. The tone is reminiscent of a vacuum tube, and although the sound is not hard, it has a core.
While maintaining the characteristics of such 3BOD, we also covered modern tones.
The 2-band EQ with the T and B knobs has a wider range of adjustment, and the distortion produced by the D knob reaches higher gains.
And by shifting the balance of the overall tone to a more modern tone, it is possible to create the tone necessary for today's bass while retaining the naturalness of 3BOD.

・V: Adjusts the volume.
・D: Adjusts the intensity of distortion.
・T: Adjusts the appearance of high frequencies.
・B: Adjusts the appearance of low frequencies.



Are there 3BOD versions with four knobs?

Is all this talk of 'modern' something to be afraid of ?
 
Agreed: probably Volume, Drive, Tone, Body.

What that means specifically though, and whether it has any rare variations within, is in the realm of guesswork.

Sometimes even when you’re sure you know what a knob does, in certain interactions of settings or signal chains you’ll encounter a notch resonance partway along the spectrum. Parts tolerances are 20% to be within spec, and a few 20% variances in series with this sort of interaction can be huge. One great reason why these controls do not and should not be marked or thought of as “more” or “less” in a typical 0-10 way.

For example the “Brilliance” on One Control’s Crimson Red Bass Preamp is sort-of a Treble control and does enhance the highs but within the range of electric bass you might find more brightness (or audible / perceived brightness) with it up 65% instead of full-on. The Bearfoot Queen Bee is flat with “T” full-up and “N” somewhere around noon, though “N” is incrementally “N” until the last nonometer of travel at which point the control is bypassed so “really flat like around noon but more so”.

Bjorn is an auteur. Even his own descriptions of what he designed and built are vague enough that you need some grasp of the language of audio circuit auteur in Bjorn’s dialect, as much as English or Swedish. This is a good thing, unless you’re perhaps OCD. For those who enjoy absurdism and chase that last sonic 0.001% its an ear candy version of high art.

Bjorn isn’t a “modern” type of guy. Also a good thing. Near as I can tell, his use of “modern” roughly translates to “more treble and/or gain” while “distortion” is any change to the signal including what we might refer to as barely perceptible drive.

Pedal pictured above is probably called a Blueberry 4K / pre-Futura Futura. If seller bought it direct, they *should* know… provided Bjorn mentioned it.

It is definitely not a Blueberry, though it does seem to be a Blueberry*. Nothing we would today call a Blueberry has 4 knobs. At that point we’re talking Blueberry Futura / 4k, or a pre-Blackberry variant. The original box might offer a clue.

Kudos to the seller for approximating the kind of photoshoot it deserves. Looks legit. Thanks for sharing it, as it’ll bring joy to many to see it.

You can better verify via pics of the inner back plate which should have artwork by Bjorn, or perhaps his wife, and certain visible quirks to the circuit board and its seating. Original visual art nested within a piece of functional original art. Serial numbers would make too much sense while offering no real idea of where that unit sits on the Berry spectrum, so expect none.

Will DM you contact info I have.
 
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@el murdoque I'm looking for a. High gain i.e. Distortion bass pedal. To go right after DCX BASS BOOST. MBD3 fits that bill but wondering if the regular Pantheon could or would fit that description? Or is it more of a low.to mid gain pedal?

It's two pedals in one, but both are overdrives. The left side feels a bit better with the gain running high and you can send A into B or B into A when you run both, which gives you a nasty blend of double drive. If you want chainsaw-with-a-few-teeth-missing-and-the-rest-blunt kind of sounds (imagine being strangled by a Harley Davidson), it's good. If you want the creamy kind of high gain distortion that feels like polished gravel on stainless steel, then no.
 
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This post by @Snaxster (which is excellent) may help….I have no experience with the Futura or other 4 knob Blueberries…


Hello again after 15 months. :D

Finally I got a BJFe Blueberry Bass Overdrive Futura (3BOD4K) of my own. But mine has a different circuit from yours.

Although I cannot for the life of me find any record of the BJFe Blueberry Bass Overdrive Futura as it was offered for sale in the US by Bearfoot FX originally and briefly (5 1/2 years ago from now), I feel sure that my example has the same circuit that those did. Mine was made in 2019.

In view of all subsequent examples, including yours and others like yours, plus a BJFe Blueberry Bass Overdrive Futura X (3BODX, higher gain) currently for sale, I consider mine to be the first and transitional type of 3BOD Futura.

Why transitional? Because

1. it has the same evolutionary feature I see on a number of BJFe pedals whose circuits Björn iterates: n+1 knobs, where the +1 knob usually is called a Treble control. So 3-knob pedals become 4-knob; and 4-knob ones become 5-knob. In this case, that means that it has the original 3BOD controls (V, D, N) plus a T control.

and

2. all the 3BOD variants I have seen since this one, including the Blackberry Bass Overdrive (also abbreviated as 3BOD4K for some reason), feature B and T controls rather than N and T.​

But there is more...



Haha! So that's what it is. I thought it was the packing material or the seller's scented candles. :)



Agreed, mostly. But I think I can explain the difference.

Before playing this 3BOD4K, I never played an actual BJFe Blueberry variant. I had the Bearfoot FX 3BOD and the One Control Blackberry; but my only BJFe pedal was a Poppy Red Distortion (PRD). Yet even my experience of the PRD was useful in framing my understanding of my 3BOD4K.

To my ear, what makes the Blueberry circuit special is not the amount of gain it applies, but the character or texture of saturation it applies at any given amount of gain. In other words, perhaps, the Blueberry magic is in gain structure; and that structure (like most things BJFe, I believe) is not uniform across a. the affected frequency spectrum, and b. the travel of a given control.

The Blueberry manifests this non-uniform saturation of the frequency spectrum as raggedness rather than smoothness. This is what players are referring to when they mention the Blueberry's "gooey" sound. But there is an additional element of raggedness. I call it "fluttering".

The combination of gooeyness and fluttering is the distinctive saturation texture of the Blueberry circuit.

In the various Blueberry variants, Björn plays with both the relationship between those two and the net spectral response, both as it is affected by saturation and as it is not.

My first trials tell me that the Bearfoot FX 3BOD has somewhat less gooeyness and even less flutter than my BJFe 3BOD4K. Also the low end of my BJFe 3BOD4K is tuned lower than the Bearfoot FX 3BOD. Those two differences alone, assuming our Futura pedals are tuned similarly, would account for the "more heft" that each of us hears in his Futura.

But there is more...



As I noted above, my 3BOD4K has a Nature control (N) instead of the newer Bottom control (B) that you refer to as "bass".

After questioning and other research, and after some soul searching, I realized that one thing I really liked in any of the BJFe circuits that featured it was the Nature control. (Examples I owned were the Bearfoot FX 3BOD, Honey Beest, and Model G.)

Also the prospect of having the additional gain in the 3BODX was not compelling to me. I already have other fine high-gain drive pedals for bass guitar.

So I chose to get the transitional 3BOD4K.



Even with the N control (tilt EQ) rather than B control, the 3BOD4K has what your are calling transparency; although I would call it "openness" rather, since mine slightly colors the high end.

When considering which variant to get, I did consider the kinds of EQ curves that the B and T controls would enable vs. the curves enabled by N and T. I was willing to forgo some flexibility to retain the classic Nature sound as a basis.



And this brings us to the first real difference between our Futuras...



Based on this description of yours and one other, I am certain that the transitional Futura has a T control that is boost or cut, whereas all later ones with a T control have a T control that is cut only.



Even with my 3BOD4K T control at its highest setting, where the boost is clearly audible, it is like yours not clanky. To my ear, this is because of tuning: it shoots pretty high. Its center is above clank, in the range of sibilance and breathiness. No joke.

Remember the fluttering? Well when T is boosted, and the source has some zing (roundwound strings played so they ring, snarl, clang, etc.) the fluttering becomes breathy.

Most striking to me was the discovery that playing with a light touch emphasizes the gooeyness and fluttering. Similarly I found that lower notes emphasized the gooeyness.

Therefore even with the T control shut, the 3BOD4K is a very tactile pedal to play through.



Since I never played a BJFe 3BOD, I cannot comment on whether my 3BOD4K has the classic sound. My guess is that it does.

However, I am willing to agree about its openness; and for me it is definitely more versatile with double-thumbing and fingerpicking. I can't play with a pick. :bag:



Here, too, I am going to have to agree.

My gear collection is pretty obscene. That includes rare and fine pedals. With that, for what it's worth: I have nothing that sounds and feels like this Blueberry Futura. It is different from my other pedals, but is as good as any of them (including the best of Menatone, which I consider to be a pinnacle of amp-in-a-box pedal making).

In my slight experience of them, Björn's hand wired pedals are like little gems. They are unique and special.

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This post by @Snaxster (which is excellent) may help….I have no experience with the Futura or other 4 knob Blueberries…

That thread’s a treasure.

Reminded me that One Control came into existence via Japanese Bjorn fandom, as originally its parent company LEP Intl. was entirely a BJFe conduit.

TheseGoTo11 fully in the cult too: “Are you BJF fans just like us? BJF is actually the reason for me starting the TGT11 shop and we're good friends and live about 30 minutes from each other. I go to his workshop every once in a while to get inspiration and pick up some pedals." - Sebastian

@el murdoque - you might find Bjorn through TGT11: BJF - Köp BJF online

For anyone wondering, “ej i lager” translates to “sold out”. Swedish krona are about 10.5 to a US dollar, and about 11.5 to a euro.

Pretty accurate re: Silver Bee.

I have an original early run BJFE Blueberry and a BJFE Silver Bee 5k that Bjorn made for me. I’ve never tried the OC versions of either, so can’t comment as to how they stack up.

The Silver Bee has a tighter low end, but it can still be very full if you crank the bass/bottom control. Its not as “gooey” or “rubbery” as the Blueberry, but I think its strength lies in other areas. The Silver Bee seems to push the mid-mids more than the low mids of the Blueberry. Furthermore, on the 5K version the “X” knob allows you to control how prominent these are and the degree of compression/saturation or openness, and how these react to digging in. Like all BJFE pedals the controls are VERY interactive, and reward prolonged experimentation with both settings and basses/strings. Rather than use the Silver Bee as a low gain/Motown-type pedal, I find it works better at “defining” mid content with a pleasant but not harsh or overbearing overdrive, and is GREAT for getting the bass to either sit or stand out in the mix without sounding nasal or honky. I particularly like using it with passive jazz basses. I need to shield the LED though…it has the brightest eye-burning pale LILAC LED I’ve ever encountered….

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Very well described. All agreed, including that it’s awesome for a passve J.

I hear & feel these characteristics as making the Silver Bee distinct enough to be preferable at times. Depends on the mix, and mood.
 
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