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my EBMM stingray begins its diet today

#61
Joe Nerve said:
Just thought I'd put it out there that these are a lot cheaper and better for you than buying or making new stingray bodies to knock a pound or 2 off your bass.

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Just sayin.
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I don't see how a grille guard from a mid-90's Toyota 4Runner's gonna help the OP lift his Stingray.........
 
#62
Alright currently uploading now but here are the dropbox links!

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Im pretty sure they're accurate in terms of dimensions but i had to do it manually so therefore theres a bit of room for error. So therefore you can always check with the ruler scan thats there on the photos.
 
#63
timbledum said:
Alright currently uploading now but here are the dropbox links!


Im pretty sure they're accurate in terms of dimensions but i had to do it manually so therefore theres a bit of room for error. So therefore you can always check with the ruler scan thats there on the photos.
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AWESOME! Thanks soooooo much!
i reeeeeeaalllly appreciate it.

...and pefect timing! ;)
 
#68
danomite64 said:
I don't see how a grille guard from a mid-90's Toyota 4Runner's gonna help the OP lift his Stingray.........
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For what it's worth, I don't think any amount of training can make carrying a heavy bass for three long sets any more enjoyable. I consider myself a strong dude (I could probably pull off a 400 lb. deadlift right this moment, and around 20 chin ups) and at 34, even one long set with a 11 pound bass will give me grief in the higher vertebrae that lasts a few days. Strong or not, as you get older your body will start to complain about having to carry around imbalanced or unwieldy things for an extended period, heavy or not.
 
#71
danroche said:
For what it's worth, I don't think any amount of training can make carrying a heavy bass for three long sets any more enjoyable. I consider myself a strong dude (I could probably pull off a 400 lb. deadlift right this moment, and around 20 chin ups) and at 34, even one long set with a 11 pound bass will give me grief in the higher vertebrae that lasts a few days. Strong or not, as you get older your body will start to complain about having to carry around imbalanced or unwieldy things for an extended period, heavy or not.
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I was just jokin (obviously) with he doorway chinning bar. I plugged in here because I'm looking forward to seeing this build. I think it's great to be able to do such things to make yerself happy, if you can.

I also respect people wanting to play lighter basses. My experience however has been that the bass weight issue is more in my head than in my body. I sold a bubinga corvette a while back because of it's weight. I have since then jumped around on stage (yes, for 3 long sets - and at times for 2 1/2 hr single sets) w some other pretty heavy basses, and once I got used to it, it wasn't an issue. I have a fortress flashback that weighs around 12 lbs. and I really don't notice. If basses all weighed an average 12 - 14 lbs I don't think people would complain as much about weight. Then a 15 lb. bass would be considered heavy. And strapping on a stingray would feel like the lightest and greatest bass ever. I really believe it's all relative. But so is what makes people happy. I like skinny redheads. If ya like a light bass, no reason I see to not go for it.
 
#72
okay. so i wanted to make absolutely sure that the new body used the exact same six neck mounting screw hole locations so that no doweling/redrilling would have to be done to the neck (i don't like to do that if it's avoidable), so i made a template that fit the old body's neck pocket very snugly. this template is exactly the same shape as the heel of the neck and a little longer than the neck pocket. while it was in the original body, i drew a line with a pencil on the back of the template where the body ends, so i could determine and mark the length of the neck pocket. then i drilled the six holes (+ the other two centerline ones) into the template, from the rear of the body.

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then i laid the template on the new body and traced it onto the new body blank:

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i then routed the neck pocket to the same depth as the MM body. once it was the correct shape/size, and depth, i screwed the snugly fitting template in the new body's neck pocket to secure it, and drilled the 6 neck mounting screw holes on a drill press:

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next, i bolted the neck to the new body. thankfully, it aligned perfectly (with no lateral neck play):

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for fun, i just laid the control plate in the cavity and laid the pickguard on it to see how it looks so far:

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then i just threw the other pickup cover on it (still in the package) to see how it'll look as an HH.

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at this point, the new body weighs 3lbs 8.9 oz and it'll still lose at least a couple of ounces for the pickup route and arm relief/tummy cut.


after seeing it like this, i've decided that it's going to be finished in natural with high gloss nitro (instead of black).

BTW, i held it by the top horn, even without the (heavy) control plate assembly and without the bridge and it appears that it still balances perfectly with no neck dive.

i'll hopefully will have its pickups routed, body rounded, arm relief, rear control plate, battery box and 5 way switch routed by monday. then i'll mount the bridge, pickguard and strap buttons and play it before tearing it down and shooting it with nitro this coming week.
 
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#73
Ray Salamon said:
Timble,
Can you get a measure for me please? I need from the nut to the dead center of each pickup :)
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Hey Ray.

I just pulled out a tape measure and got a few measurements.

Its 684mm and 776mm to each PU from the nut. This measurement includes the width of the nut and goes to the middle of the PU. Its a bit rough though, give or take around 2mm. Hope it helps!

Builds looking great so far! I was a little disappointed when I remembered you were gonna black over all that great looking wood, then I saw your change of plans! Great thinking. I'm a burst man myself, but I know its way harder to do, and some aren't into it.
 
#74
i actually love bursts, and since i've shot alot of them over the years, IMO, they're pretty simple to do, but i just thought the blonde swamp ash looks nice. and i really like them on p and jazz basses, but don't care for them that much on stingrays. i think that it has something to do with the oval pickguard.

i also thought about doing it in trans orange. the body is almost one entire piece of wood, but there is a 1 1/8 inch strip on the lower bout where the arm relief is going to be. it's matched so well, you can't see it from the front or back right now. you obviously can see it from the side's end grain, but even that part is pretty well matched. i just hope when cutting the diagonal arm relief, and part of the tummy cut on the back, it doesn't disturb the grain and continues to blend in. if it doesn't, i might have to go with trans orange to minimize it.

BTW, i just mounted the bridge and played it acoustically. it didn't even need ANY action adjustment and is playing exactly like it did on the original body, but it's TONS more lively and resonant, where the same old strings on it sounded really dead on the heavier body, they sound much fuller and much newer on the featherweight one. it even seems to have more sustain and i can already tell that it's going to sound great.
 
#78
mongo2 said:
Nice job JohnK

Did you consider rear routing for the controls?
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thanks!
not really since i usually go for the 'stock' look. i'm not really thrilled about having a top chrome control plate and a rear cover plate, but that seems to be the way that MM does it.

i have a 5-way super switch for it so i can wire and build it like an HH, but i was thinking about getting another stock chrome top control plate instead to drill two mini-switch holes into for a mini 3 way pickup selector and a splitter, which would almost give me the same sounds, and i wouldn't have to route for the 5-way or a rear access cover, kinda like the way they did the Sabre basses. and i really think that it would have a 'cleaner' look that way.

the only thing i'd be losing is running the two pickup's inner coils (split), but i would be gaining running the neck or bridge pickups outer coils by themselves split. so i'd lose one sound, and gain two others.
 

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