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My First Gig Offer!!......Kinda

Sooooooo; my friend and band-mate (guitarist) told me that his older brother and his rap group needed a guitar and bass duo for 4 songs of the 15 or so they'd be playing at a small bar in April. Obviously, it would be rap, which I despise, but I'll do it for the experience and to help my friend out. Problem is, 1 out of the 4 songs has no bassline, and they want me to make one up. I have never written anything music-wise before, so I don't know what to do!! I have some knowledge of chord tones and such, but nothing to deep. What should I do? (Here's the song the want me to add to)
 
The link isn't working, so I can't hear the song, but come up with a bouncy one or two-beat rhythm to play on the first beat of the bar and then add one or two fundamental notes to it. This is your skeleton, so you can add short fills and other sounds every four to eight bars...or not.
 
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I'm almost hearing something more R&B than grittier hip-hop to go with this. Do you have a 5-string? I think I'm liking alternately every other measure playing the lowest, fattest, roundest root note you have available with maybe some funky rhythmic interplay with the 3 4 and 5, but no higher than that, and then switching over into a more melodic run higher on the neck.

Either space it in between where the guitar is doing it's melodic fills and such, or simply alternate every other measure. Measure 1 do a slow funky bass thing, measure 2 make hearts swoon with a tasteful and expressive melodic run.

I also really like the aforementioned idea of potentially using the bass to reharmonize the repetitive guitar part. Incorporating that in some way too would make for a really interesting but still very stylistically appropriate (read: subdued) bass line.

I think that's the biggest key here though. Stylistically you're probably going to want a really subdued bass part. Even when I was saying melodic run earlier I don't mean lead guitar solo. I mean more like something out of TSA's "51" but more "i want to make love to you" instead of "everything I know has changed and everyone I knew is dead."
 
it would be rap, which I despise, but I'll do it for the experience and to help my friend out.
What should I do?
hey! congrats on an opportunity to be creative! i'd advise you to relax your biases --- the genre may not be your bailiwick, but that tune gives you some incredible room for some old-fashioned 'drama' on the bass instrument just by being simple and repetitive.

don't resist! embrace the moment! drop the panic in favor of fun! you got this. good luck! :thumbsup:
 
I'm almost hearing something more R&B than grittier hip-hop to go with this. Do you have a 5-string? I think I'm liking alternately every other measure playing the lowest, fattest, roundest root note you have available with maybe some funky rhythmic interplay with the 3 4 and 5, but no higher than that, and then switching over into a more melodic run higher on the neck.

Either space it in between where the guitar is doing it's melodic fills and such, or simply alternate every other measure. Measure 1 do a slow funky bass thing, measure 2 make hearts swoon with a tasteful and expressive melodic run.

I also really like the aforementioned idea of potentially using the bass to reharmonize the repetitive guitar part. Incorporating that in some way too would make for a really interesting but still very stylistically appropriate (read: subdued) bass line.

I think that's the biggest key here though. Stylistically you're probably going to want a really subdued bass part. Even when I was saying melodic run earlier I don't mean lead guitar solo. I mean more like something out of TSA's "51" but more "i want to make love to you" instead of "everything I know has changed and everyone I knew is dead."

I only have a Yamaha active 4 string. Which I can get a bunch of different tones on; do you have a suggestion on what type of tone would fit? A growly tone, smooth tone, etc.
 
I only have a Yamaha active 4 string. Which I can get a bunch of different tones on; do you have a suggestion on what type of tone would fit? A growly tone, smooth tone, etc.

I would go for as smooth a fat, warm, round, and fundamental tone as possible. Lean on the neck pickup more than the bridge (if applicable) and try plucking up towards the neck more than the bridge to really emphasize the fundamental over overtones. For similar bass parts I've done I've actually plucked as high up as near the twelfth fret (but be careful not to pick the 1/2 harmonic unless you want that specific tone) to get an almost synth-like level of fundamental.
 
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Sooooooo; my friend and band-mate (guitarist) told me that his older brother and his rap group needed a guitar and bass duo for 4 songs of the 15 or so they'd be playing at a small bar in April. Obviously, it would be rap, which I despise, but I'll do it for the experience and to help my friend out. Problem is, 1 out of the 4 songs has no bassline, and they want me to make one up. I have never written anything music-wise before, so I don't know what to do!! I have some knowledge of chord tones and such, but nothing to deep. What should I do? (Here's the song the want me to add to)

Just find a simple line that flows, play it once and hit your looper pedal.
 
I have played a bassline for this kind of thing before, almost the same kind of situation: A Rap/R&B/Hip Hop/etc fusion group wanted a live bassline for a few tunes only at a small showcase night. It was scratch/funk type guitar, deep synth + drum machine and two rappers.

It was a repeating 4 bar pattern, bars 1 & 3 I basically played 1/8 note roots with some rhythmic variation and some dead notes, bar 2 i mirrored the guitar melody line, bar 4 I played a fill leading back into the line. I'll see if I can find it on YouTube.
 
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You could experiment with singing/humming a potential bass line along to the music. Then when you think you may have found something...play along on your bass.

This is actually the answer. In fact, this isn't just the answer to this question; this is how everyone should approach basslines. If it ain't hummable, it ain't groovin'.

A lot of folks here have said to keep it simple - play roots, etc. But if I'm completely honest - that track is really just, I dunno, lacking something. It's kind of slow, lacks some syncopation and rhythmic complexity (where's the hi hat? this groove seriously needs some hats)....it just feels like it's kind of in this weird limbo, this no-man's land. I'm honestly just not feelin' it as a rap groove or an R&B groove. But as I listen to it - I'm DEFINITELY feeling it as a soul groove.

But you, man, you can put the soul in this track. In fact, I say you need to. I think this is actually an old soul-style groove, and should be treated as such; let your bass be a voice, don't be afraid to fill and go high, and definitely do some call-and-response with the vocals rhythmically when you can. (If there's a chorus section with sung vocals, there's definitely a lot of room for creativity.)

It's worth noting that many of these genres call back to older styles of music as way of tribute; many R&B and rap songs sample the greatest grooves out there. Don't just try to think of this as a "rap" thing and go full snore on it. Look at it as a piece of music that's being sampled for your vocalists to throw some flow over. So yes, make it rhythmic, make it melodic, and bring the soul to the groove. I honestly think that if you just follow the roots and play what's already there that it'll just be amazingly boring unless you speed up the tempo (try 1.25 speed on the player, but it still needs some hi-hat).

Also, will you have someone playing drums with you? This is good to know. If so, maybe you two can work something out together. Good luck!
 
This is actually the answer. In fact, this isn't just the answer to this question; this is how everyone should approach basslines. If it ain't hummable, it ain't groovin'.

A lot of folks here have said to keep it simple - play roots, etc. But if I'm completely honest - that track is really just, I dunno, lacking something. It's kind of slow, lacks some syncopation and rhythmic complexity (where's the hi hat? this groove seriously needs some hats)....it just feels like it's kind of in this weird limbo, this no-man's land. I'm honestly just not feelin' it as a rap groove or an R&B groove. But as I listen to it - I'm DEFINITELY feeling it as a soul groove.

But you, man, you can put the soul in this track. In fact, I say you need to. I think this is actually an old soul-style groove, and should be treated as such; let your bass be a voice, don't be afraid to fill and go high, and definitely do some call-and-response with the vocals rhythmically when you can. (If there's a chorus section with sung vocals, there's definitely a lot of room for creativity.)

It's worth noting that many of these genres call back to older styles of music as way of tribute; many R&B and rap songs sample the greatest grooves out there. Don't just try to think of this as a "rap" thing and go full snore on it. Look at it as a piece of music that's being sampled for your vocalists to throw some flow over. So yes, make it rhythmic, make it melodic, and bring the soul to the groove. I honestly think that if you just follow the roots and play what's already there that it'll just be amazingly boring unless you speed up the tempo (try 1.25 speed on the player, but it still needs some hi-hat).

Also, will you have someone playing drums with you? This is good to know. If so, maybe you two can work something out together. Good luck!
Great advice, really appreciate the help!!! Unfortunatly, there will not be a drummer, just the track.