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My first lay off
- Thread starter zon6c-f
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I’ll surviv
Thanks!
I’ll survive but will go from level of comfort to level of poverty on the way
A couple of questions...
Have you signed anything from the company accepting their offer of two weeks notice?
Have you considered opening your own business and leveraging your industry experience and contacts? Why not become a professional consultant to the industry? You build your business, you manage your time and you pick and choose who you work for and for how long.
Sure beats having others make life changing decision on your behalf?
Fishheadjoe
Have you signed anything from the company accepting their offer of two weeks notice?
Have you considered opening your own business and leveraging your industry experience and contacts? Why not become a professional consultant to the industry? You build your business, you manage your time and you pick and choose who you work for and for how long.
Sure beats having others make life changing decision on your behalf?
Fishheadjoe
I was laid off due to the economy and I know it was between me and another guy that wasn't there as long as I was. But the reason I was picked is I once called a customer while on-site a b****. I am not sorry for there was no reason to be the way she was.
Anyway I was unemployed for 5 months and did the following:
Woke-up and if it was my day to be with my kid take her to daycare and then the gym for two hours (used to do 30 minutes but when you have a lot of time on your hands why not use it wisely).
Get home and hit all the job sites.
Do stuff
Play my instrument
Go to bed
Getup and repeat.
If I didn't have my kid then it would be job sites, then gym.
Anyway I was unemployed for 5 months and did the following:
Woke-up and if it was my day to be with my kid take her to daycare and then the gym for two hours (used to do 30 minutes but when you have a lot of time on your hands why not use it wisely).
Get home and hit all the job sites.
Do stuff
Play my instrument
Go to bed
Getup and repeat.
If I didn't have my kid then it would be job sites, then gym.
Nothing to sign
My reluctance to do anything entrepreneurial is inhibited by litigation requiring insurance bond etc
Updates
I apply for jobs on line almost daily
The silence of either rejection or non response is deafening
Stay in a state of depression as I feel totally betrayed Inside info tells me new hires weekly after telling me no budget and no new hires
EEOC suit?
Received severance check Friday and will apply for unemployment Monday
I turn 65 soon and getting hired at a Decent job becomes exponentially more difficult
If subjects appeal to me I may apply for tuition free education available in Ga due to my age
Thanks All
I apply for jobs on line almost daily
The silence of either rejection or non response is deafening
Stay in a state of depression as I feel totally betrayed Inside info tells me new hires weekly after telling me no budget and no new hires
EEOC suit?
Received severance check Friday and will apply for unemployment Monday
I turn 65 soon and getting hired at a Decent job becomes exponentially more difficult
If subjects appeal to me I may apply for tuition free education available in Ga due to my age
Thanks All
For your own sanity my friend, let the old job go. It's not healthy for you mentally keeping track of insider info from your former employer.
Have you thought about doing in person applications? Doing it online is nice and easy, but it's also nice and easy for the employer to click delete and ignore an email.
-Mike
Have you thought about doing in person applications? Doing it online is nice and easy, but it's also nice and easy for the employer to click delete and ignore an email.
-Mike
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buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Have you spoken with an employment attorney prior to signing anything to get your severance?
As to job applications, today, the first round of resume culling is done by computers looking for keywords. You have to customize the resume for the job. The key is getting your application/resume in front of an actual human being.
As to job applications, today, the first round of resume culling is done by computers looking for keywords. You have to customize the resume for the job. The key is getting your application/resume in front of an actual human being.
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It's just math.
What did the attorneys tell several people here who had solid cases? "Walk away."
Why?
Because you won't win.
How do they know you won't win?
Because several have tried and it dragged on and on until "winning" was "losing" because most of your "winnings" were eaten up by expenses.
So the next hundred, or thousand, or however many, don't bother trying.
So it's worth every dime to fight one or two to the death, even if it costs the corporation millions. Because in the long run it SAVES them millions more.
OP, here's some tough love, and I know you're not going to like it, but please hear it:
Let the old job go. Yes, you were wronged. Yes, you are hurt in more ways than one. But move on. They have. You letting them stay in your head and mess with it only hurts you. It's another win for them, and you are playing along. Quit it. And don't seek or listen to the inside info. Again, it just feeds your resentment and that's brutally unhealthy.
Do what you need to do for your physical and mental health. Exercise daily, even if that's just getting out for a walk. Hydrate, eat right, get quality sleep (no screens after 6pm, consistent bedtime), and if you drink alcohol, might want to cut that back. Alcohol is a depressant, and even if you have no addiction issues, it isn't an effect you need right now.
Fix your resume. @buldog5151bass is correct: computers read these things, and if you don't have keywords and dates, it won't pass anything on to a human for further review. Since it's been awhile, get someone to help you. Your local employment security office may have people to directly assist with this, or if not, will certainly be able to point you to folks who can. I spent months applying for entry-level retail and didn't have a single bite, and then an expert pointed out that I was doing one dumb thing wrong. Boom, next application got me two interviews and a job. And I realize that we may let our language skills slide a bit here on TB, but if what you write here is representative of the care you take on a resume or cover letter or application, you might want to turn that up a notch if possible.
One more thing: Quit whining. Life sucks, for everyone at one time or other. I know how you feel. So do many others. Don't let this event define you. Keep trying. Try better, not harder. Get help for what you need help for. And really, this hasn't been all that long. I just got my first real paycheck since April of 2016. Yes, you read that right. In March of 2015 I lost my job, my faith community, my friends, my marriage, my band (bass and FOH), my financial security, my hometown, my hobbies, and my health. It has been an awful and terribly slow slog back to part-time employment. I still have the health problem (and two tumors in my head), my financial state is worse, my dog is dying, and the current occupant of the Oval Office has laid out plans to make my existence as rough as possible. The job I have is in a new field, and I don't know that I'm going to be good at this, ever. I'm not sure I'm going to like it. But I'm going to do my best to learn and grow and be a good employee and a better person. Yes, it's hard, and it's hard every day. But that's life. Wishing it different doesn't make it different. Whining about what I lost saps valuable time and energy and keeps me from seeing what I still have. I've made a choice. You can make the choice, too. Suck it up, buttercup.
Let the old job go. Yes, you were wronged. Yes, you are hurt in more ways than one. But move on. They have. You letting them stay in your head and mess with it only hurts you. It's another win for them, and you are playing along. Quit it. And don't seek or listen to the inside info. Again, it just feeds your resentment and that's brutally unhealthy.
Do what you need to do for your physical and mental health. Exercise daily, even if that's just getting out for a walk. Hydrate, eat right, get quality sleep (no screens after 6pm, consistent bedtime), and if you drink alcohol, might want to cut that back. Alcohol is a depressant, and even if you have no addiction issues, it isn't an effect you need right now.
Fix your resume. @buldog5151bass is correct: computers read these things, and if you don't have keywords and dates, it won't pass anything on to a human for further review. Since it's been awhile, get someone to help you. Your local employment security office may have people to directly assist with this, or if not, will certainly be able to point you to folks who can. I spent months applying for entry-level retail and didn't have a single bite, and then an expert pointed out that I was doing one dumb thing wrong. Boom, next application got me two interviews and a job. And I realize that we may let our language skills slide a bit here on TB, but if what you write here is representative of the care you take on a resume or cover letter or application, you might want to turn that up a notch if possible.
One more thing: Quit whining. Life sucks, for everyone at one time or other. I know how you feel. So do many others. Don't let this event define you. Keep trying. Try better, not harder. Get help for what you need help for. And really, this hasn't been all that long. I just got my first real paycheck since April of 2016. Yes, you read that right. In March of 2015 I lost my job, my faith community, my friends, my marriage, my band (bass and FOH), my financial security, my hometown, my hobbies, and my health. It has been an awful and terribly slow slog back to part-time employment. I still have the health problem (and two tumors in my head), my financial state is worse, my dog is dying, and the current occupant of the Oval Office has laid out plans to make my existence as rough as possible. The job I have is in a new field, and I don't know that I'm going to be good at this, ever. I'm not sure I'm going to like it. But I'm going to do my best to learn and grow and be a good employee and a better person. Yes, it's hard, and it's hard every day. But that's life. Wishing it different doesn't make it different. Whining about what I lost saps valuable time and energy and keeps me from seeing what I still have. I've made a choice. You can make the choice, too. Suck it up, buttercup.
As Ragnar would say, 'don't waste your time looking back, you're not going that way'.
-Mike
-Mike
My company send us (supervisors) to a workplace training session. The person giving a talk did mention Google did get sued because an older worker felt discriminating by younger workers and Google didn't do anything about it. But, the consultant did remind us that it doesn't happen very often.
Sure. My resume is a bit tricky because my employment history is spotty and I was fired once. So I created a resume that emphasized my skills, experience, and strengths by category, rather than date/place. While it seems like this was a prudent idea, it backfired badly. Computers are reading for a timeline, and without any dates or places, or not enough of them, the application goes in the trash pile and that's the end of that.
If a real person was the first reader, it would have worked better, but still raised questions. They're gonna ask for dates and places eventually. Of course, leaving off dates of education is a different matter; many applications don't ask for that as it can open the company up to an age-discrimination problem. Since most of us graduated high school between the ages of 17 and 19, it's pretty easy to know an applicant's age from that bit of info.
Oh, and if your contact email is surferdude at whatever or ilike69 at whatever, you're hosed. Get an address that is your real name.
I should add that I'm aware that I've spelled résumé wrong in this post until now. I'm typing on a Chromebook and I'm feeling lazy. Getting the é or any special character requires unicode input since there's no number pad or 'insert special characters' ability. I hope it goes without saying that any important bit of text (employment, legal, etc) needs to be perfect, so that isn't the time to cut corners.
Update :
Forced by Federal regulation to buy Medicare A&B or face penalty. Price based on my Former salary and may be updated next year. So much for turning 65
I apply for jobs/ send resumes daily
Can’t land an interview with$100 pinned to my shirt
Other than a handful of rejections it’s all crickets. If it was more silent I’d think I was in a vacuum
Applied for unemployment which is a bandaid on gushing wound imho may get 1/4 my net for a few months at best
Stay morose and depressed otherwise
Sorry to hear all this. Since the healthcare situation is complicated at retirement age. We work all our lives, medical is taken care of thru our employers.(most of us)
Then it get complicated.
Once again, good luck.
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I get a small retirement from my first career. I take my medical thru my retirement. I took no benefits from my recent job except paid time off so I wasn’t a health liability
All my life I struggled and for 2 years I thought I’d finally made it and looked forward to turning 65 and ordering that 301 I wanted and cancelled
My plan was to work into my 70s and now I just go thru motions daily and keep trying and applying.
I’m certain that as soon as someone reads my resume it’s easy to figure close to my age and then rejected
Only thing equal to my depression is my anger at my former bosses / administration. They had different choices they could have made for me had they really wanted to retain me
All my life I struggled and for 2 years I thought I’d finally made it and looked forward to turning 65 and ordering that 301 I wanted and cancelled
My plan was to work into my 70s and now I just go thru motions daily and keep trying and applying.
I’m certain that as soon as someone reads my resume it’s easy to figure close to my age and then rejected
Only thing equal to my depression is my anger at my former bosses / administration. They had different choices they could have made for me had they really wanted to retain me
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