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My Musical Project - a diary

#27
Okay, I've been tweaking the set list a bit to accommodate musicians a little better and be more workable. What do you think of this little lot, guys? By the way, I know the opening number is considered to have been played to death over in the States, but it's not a song that's heard too often here in the UK (maybe because the Doobies were never as big here as they were in the States). It's a cool little "settler".

Titus - you said you'd like to play some stuff with a horn section if you can get along, so I've dropped two of the Ian Dury numbers. I'll PM you with details of what I'm planning when I get sorted, but it might be the three numbers starting with "Move On Up", or something similar.

New set list in next post. Let me know what you think of it - ta!
 
#28
1. Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers (3:24)
2. Shackles - Mary Mary (3:03)
3. We Are Family - Sister Sledge (3:22)
4. Blame It On The Boogie - The Jacksons (3:35)
5. Sex On Fire - Kings Of Leon (3:25)
6. Mercy - Duffy (3:41)
7. You've Got The Love - Florence And The Machine (2:52)
8. Get It On - T-Rex (4:24)
9. Goodbye Stranger - Supertramp (5:50)
10. Crocodile Rock - Elton John (3:53)
11. Low Rider - War (3:10)
12. Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick - Ian Dury & The Blockheads (3:43)
13. Move On Up - Curtis Mayfield (3:36)
14. Dancing In The Street SHIFTED - Martha Reeves & The Vandellas (2:37)
15. Boogie Nights - Heatwave (3:28)
16. Breakout - Swing Out Sister (3:47)
17. Car Wash - Rose Royce (2:48)
18. You Can Call Me Al - Paul Simon (4:42)
19. Soul Limbo - Booker T (2:22)
20. Armed And Extremely Dangerous - First Choice (2:49)
21. Disco Inferno - The Trammps (3:11)
22. Nutbush City Limits - Ike And Tina Turner (2:53)
23. Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran (1:57)
24. Another Operator - Tom Martin Band (3:36)
25. Weekend In Jail - Tom Martin Band (5:03)
26. Wack Wack - Buddy Rich (3:15)
27. Bolero - Ravel (5:20)
28. Forget You - Cee Lo Green (3:43)
29. Rio - Duran Duran (4:46)
30. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - Michael Jackson (6:05)
31. Shake Your Body SHIFTED - The Jacksons (3:38)
32. I Want You Back SHIFTED - Jackson 5 (2:54)
33. The Power of Love - Huey Lewis & the News (3:52)
34. Oye Mi Canto - Gloria Estefan (4:53)
35. Sir Duke SHIFTED - Stevie Wonder (3:51)
36. I Wish - Stevie Wonder (4:11)
37. Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame (3:40)
38. Kids - Minogue/Williams (3:43)
39. The Snake - Al Wilson (3:26)
40. Roll Away The Stone - Mott The Hoople (3:08)
41. Saturday - Elton John (4:54)
 
#30
I love organizing events. It is really hard, but also really satisfying. I, and a friend of mine, have been organizing and building a charity event called "Lynn Ann's Spookwalk" for a number of years... We have an out-doors haunted house that runs a path that takes 20 minutes to walk. It is lit solely by glow sticks. There are stations along the path where I and about 20 other volunteers scare the snot out of people. We run two nights and usually make a thousand bucks for MS.

I work with volunteers, who are probably easier than musicians... What I have learned so far is that you never have enough extension cords, or outlets. Where people should not go, they will, so block them. Stupid people are genetically accident prone; there is no protection from them. You will need twice as much toilet paper as you think, and three times as many garbage cans... and 3.5 times the number of parking spaces.

Towards the end, you will not be organizing anything. You will be aiming chaos. Imagine chaos is like a very large pig that wants to be somewhere else. You have a cane, and you can whack the pig, or hook it's snout and pull it. Whatever you do, the pig can get away. Believe it. (say, the electricity for the whole thing goes off) You will need all of your attention to keep chaos within the boundaries of your area during the event. So, delegate, delegate, delegate.... assume the fit is going to hit the shan and have a plan. We have an area where we keep anything we need and one person who's sole job it is to respond to little emergencies for the event. Everybody has this person's number, and they all carry phones.

Hope that helps...
 
#31
bassybill said:
Okay, I've been tweaking the set list a bit to accommodate musicians a little better and be more workable. What do you think of this little lot, guys? By the way, I know the opening number is considered to have been played to death over in the States, but it's not a song that's heard too often here in the UK (maybe because the Doobies were never as big here as they were in the States). It's a cool little "settler".

Titus - you said you'd like to play some stuff with a horn section if you can get along, so I've dropped two of the Ian Dury numbers. I'll PM you with details of what I'm planning when I get sorted, but it might be the three numbers starting with "Move On Up", or something similar.

New set list in next post. Let me know what you think of it - ta!
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Cool. Just let me know what you are happy to let me loose on and I'll nail it.
 
#32
I've finally got around to doing some serious arranging for this event. I really need to get my skates on now. The first chart I've done for the big band is pretty close to this original...

from my Sibelius chart. It's about 95% finished, just need to edit the saxes in the last few bars a bit.

And for those who want to sing along... ;)

On her way to work one morning, down the path alongside the lake
A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake
His pretty coloured skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Oh well," she cried, "I’ll take you in and I’ll take care of you"
"Take me in oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

Now she wrapped him up all cosy in a coverture of silk
And then laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk
Now she hurried home from work that night – as soon as she arrived
Now she found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived
"Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried
"But if I hadn't a-brought you in by now you might have died"
Now she stroked his pretty skin again and then kissed and held him tight
But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite
"Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

"Now I saved you," cried that woman, "And you've bit me, even - why?
And you know your bite is poisonous and now I’m gonna die"
"Aw shut up, silly woman," said that reptile with a grin
"Now you knew durn well I was a snake before you brought me in
"Please take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake
Sighed the snake
“Take me in, tender woman”.... Sssssnake...

I've also attached two PDFS - one of the score for anyone interested, and the bass part (much simplified as it will be me playing it and I don't really need a detailed chart).

Let me know what you think.
 

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#33
Hi Bill - good track!
Haven't been able to see the charts as looking at this on iPhone but audio sounds good - sounds thin at the end but as you say saxes still to be tweaked - nice arrangement - like the big chords on the modulations.
I use Finale for doing my band arrangements and of course the sound on the midis is yuck so I always think if it sounds half decent on that - the band will rip it up - good stuff, look forward to having a look at the chart tomorrow when I can get to a proper computer.
How many charts are you going to need to produce?!
 
#34
Cheers Martin!

Some of the staves in the PDF chart overlap a bit as Sibelius squeezed them all vertically on to one page. Still a bit of tweaking needed, though, as I said. And it may only ever get played once, after all that work.

I really like the way the original builds in intensity and I tried to get that aspect right in the chart - hence the big modulations! :D

I need to do a couple more big band charts and one for the 10-piece, plus a few guide bits and pieces for the smaller line ups. Not impossible if I keep at it.
 
#35
wcnewby said:
I love organizing events. It is really hard, but also really satisfying. I, and a friend of mine, have been organizing and building a charity event called "Lynn Ann's Spookwalk" for a number of years... We have an out-doors haunted house that runs a path that takes 20 minutes to walk. It is lit solely by glow sticks. There are stations along the path where I and about 20 other volunteers scare the snot out of people. We run two nights and usually make a thousand bucks for MS.

I work with volunteers, who are probably easier than musicians... What I have learned so far is that you never have enough extension cords, or outlets. Where people should not go, they will, so block them. Stupid people are genetically accident prone; there is no protection from them. You will need twice as much toilet paper as you think, and three times as many garbage cans... and 3.5 times the number of parking spaces.

Towards the end, you will not be organizing anything. You will be aiming chaos. Imagine chaos is like a very large pig that wants to be somewhere else. You have a cane, and you can whack the pig, or hook it's snout and pull it. Whatever you do, the pig can get away. Believe it. (say, the electricity for the whole thing goes off) You will need all of your attention to keep chaos within the boundaries of your area during the event. So, delegate, delegate, delegate.... assume the fit is going to hit the shan and have a plan. We have an area where we keep anything we need and one person who's sole job it is to respond to little emergencies for the event. Everybody has this person's number, and they all carry phones.

Hope that helps...
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That's a great post! Totally accurate. Thanks for that one. ;)
 
#36
bassybill said:
Cheers Martin!

Some of the staves in the PDF chart overlap a bit as Sibelius squeezed them all vertically on to one page. Still a bit of tweaking needed, though, as I said. And it may only ever get played once, after all that work.

I really like the way the original builds in intensity and I tried to get that aspect right in the chart - hence the big modulations! :D

I need to do a couple more big band charts and one for the 10-piece, plus a few guide bits and pieces for the smaller line ups. Not impossible if I keep at it.
Click to expand...

I think what you've done with it works really well - I like the drama building, emphasized by those big changes - cool!

Printing is my biggest nightmare with Finale - constantly have to readjust to get parts down to a couple of sheets if I can - usually can't!- that and drum parts but that's because I'm not good at drum parts :-)

Just a thought- in sure there are a lot of us who do arrangements for our various line ups - how would TB feel about an "arrangement exchange" - nothing commercial but if people were willing to share their arrangements could be useful - I know with my band line up I've arranged about 40 odd - could save someone a lot of work if we were willing/able to set up a "library" of some sort? Just a thought!
 
#37
Hi Martin - yes, the exchange idea sounds good in principle. Trouble is, people will pile in giving away commercially available charts that should be paid for, so it's probably best kept to PMs. I'm happy to share my own stuff, but I wouldn't want to see any hard working pro arrangers deprived of a few £££/$$$. I'm sure you'd agree with that.

I'm just working on a big band chart of "Roll Away The Stone" by Mott the Hoople. Man, Ian Hunter was an absolute genius writer, that song is so well put together it's untrue. Very, very musically clever.
 
#38
Ah! Sha-la-la-la push push!
One of the all time great backing vocals!
Love that song as well.

On the charts idea-
I totally agree with the fact that people shouldn't swap commercial charts- big no-no in my book too - if people have written them themselves though I don't have a problem with that.
I thought of it as being a list of what you have, instrumentation etc. and people can then PM and sort it out between themselves - maybe start a thread and have some rules and suitably dire warnings about copying and take it from there?

However! Would be totally guided by what you say in this respect Bill - would not want to break any rules or cause a problem for TB!
 
#39
Maybe start a thread to see what people put forward, then, Martin. I don't think it will get too busy, judging by other arrangers' threads I've started here (I'll go and bump one now for you to check out).

Here's how far I've got with the Mott the Hoople tune. Rhythm section pretty much done, still need to add more brass and saxes... There's some nice subtle changes of key in there, and a not so subtle tritone-based one at 1:58.

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#40
Good idea Bill -I'll do a list of mine and start a thread see what the interest is. Cheers.

I like that Hoople- that's a great key change isn't it - just takes off with a mind of its own - lovely!
Nice work on it - your output sounds a lot better than mine does! Are you going to have backing singers available for the "sha la la la" etc - that would sound good with the brass doubling it - classic song and good work sir!
 

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