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My New Zero Tolerance Craigslist Attitude.

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Uh ok.

It’s not uncommon for buyers to try and get get things for cheaper. Telling him no was perfectly fine. But the telling him to turn around and go **** himself? Seems to me that you were the *** in this exchange, not him.

Sure hope that never happen to you when you go to buy something.
If you are gonna reply make sure you read what was said. The potential buyer called him a MFer,I would have replied way worse than he did and told him I'd sell it to him for 750!
 
I've had great luck both buying and selling on CL.

Sometimes people inquire and never follow up... who cares? Someone else will buy it.
Sometimes they throw out a low-ball offer... who cares? Say no thanks.
Nothing is a done deal until the money changes hands.

I go to the seller when I'm buying.
I reserve the right to re-negotiate once I see the item in person.

I make the buyer come to me when I'm selling... actually a neutral location close to my house.
I don't get mad if they offer less but sometimes say no thanks. Sometimes say okay.
I do ask a bit more than I'm willing to take... sometimes they pay asking price. Bonus.

Negotiation is just a part of life... not only when you're buying and selling.
You negotiate with your spouse, your kids, your friends, your co-workers every day.
What's the big deal?
I've had good luck on Craigslist too. I sold my Gretsch 6120 this past weekend. The guy didn't even want to take it out of the case, but I insisted that he try it. He played it for about 2 minutes, said I'll take it and handed me the money, never even tried to deal.

Who does the OP think he's hurting by not letting the guy buy his bass at the agreed on price? :meh:
 
If you are gonna reply make sure you read what was said. The potential buyer called him a MFer,I would have replied way worse than he did and told him I'd sell it to him for 750!
He called him a MFer AFTER he refused to sell him the bass even at the agreed on price. Pretty stupid considering all the nut jobs running around with guns, but I understand him being mad.
 
When I sell my bass on CL, there will be an application process asking questions such as how much money do you make, how large is your studio/band room, who will be at home providing care while you’re at work, and what is your action plan to care for and love your new bass? Just a simple 4 pages but necessary and invaluable to weed out the riff raff.
 
When I sell my bass on CL, there will be an application process asking questions such as how much money do you make, how large is your studio/band room, who will be at home providing care while you’re at work, and what is your action plan to care for and love your new bass? Just a simple 4 pages but necessary and invaluable to weed out the riff raff.

What? No references?
 
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This reminds me of a similar situation. I had a guy off Craigslist coming from 4 hours away to buy my bass for $80. When he got here he suggested $70! What a scum. I told him very firmly that my bass deserves better than being played by such a cheapskate and he can't have it for any price. Much back and forth cussing ensued.

Well I now have about 25 basses and can't find any worthy purchasers.
 
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I remember a time when you shook a man’s hand the deal was done. Then there were a few decades when you had to write a confirming letter each time you shook a man’s hand. These days, a written contract is just the starting point for the negotiations.
 
I'm just shy of 60 years old. I've always been a bit of a gypsy buying, selling or trading a wide variety of things ranging from ridiculously expensive audio gear to classic British auto parts to musical instruments. I see threads like this everywhere with people complaining about buyers on CL or sellers on eBay or everyone on Facebook. We have more ways than ever to connect with potential buyers or sellers and yet it seems now, more than ever, we have this angry zero sum interactions over what many would consider to be a part of normal negotiations.

How did so much of what we do as people devolve into this zero sum thinking? Is it really surprising that the art of negotiation, on just about all levels ranging from dating to politics, seems to be dying? I used to love making deals but now it seems like the level of intransigence is overwhelming, relegating the act of selling into a horrible chore. People need to lighten up and realize that the notion 'a deal isn't a deal unless I stole the thing,' is not really healthy, on many levels.
My experience is overwhelmingly positive... many many instruments and musical gear bought and sold this way. The people I meet are usually passionate about music, their gear, the gear they want to buy from me or the gear they are selling. They are also kind and appreciate fairness. Some of the examples provided are definitely major irritants and I try to be extra cautious because I know unpleasant transactions such as those many of you report can happen. But again, my experience is typically great!
 
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I’m still trying to determine what the op should have said when the buyer sent him the text seeking to renegotiate. It seems to me the op had an opportunity to negotiate the price back up to $650 but didn’t do it, and I wonder what he could have said to accomplish that without violating the centuries old horse trading rules delineated in this thread.
 
I remember a time when you shook a man’s hand the deal was done. Then there were a few decades when you had to write a confirming letter each time you shook a man’s hand. These days, a written contract is just the starting point for the negotiations.
But they hadn't shook hands yet, except a "virtual handshake" because it was a CL deal. The buyer hadn't seen it yet.
Signed, written contracts are still binding. Just try to return a car you just bought to a dealer.

I’m still trying to determine what the op should have said when the buyer sent him the text seeking to renegotiate. It seems to me the op had an opportunity to negotiate the price back up to $650 but didn’t do it, and I wonder what he could have said to accomplish that without violating the centuries old horse trading rules delineated in this thread.
I would have laughed and said $700 and started the process over and settled for what was originally agreed upon. No reason to get upset IMHO.
 
Why agree on the original price? The buyer wanted to renegotiate and the seller missed that opportunity to raise the price. Would the buyer have gone home without the bass over $50?

All I'm saying is I would have tried to work it out instead of getting mad. Buyer went down fifty so I would have gone up 100 and started over. I spent a lot of years in the car business so people trying to renegotiate is something that doesn't upset me. I've had people offer 4,000 on a used car priced at 12,000. Getting upset never closes a deal.

Nothing is done until it's done and money changes hands despite what may have been texted, e-mailed or said on a phone call. That's been my experience, anyway.
 
I've had people offer 4,000 on a used car priced at 12,000. Getting upset never closes a deal.

Nothing is done until it's done and money changes hands despite what may have been texted, e-mailed or said on a phone call. That's been my experience, anyway.
What could you have said to get the buyer to pay $12,050 for that car. That’s what I’m asking. What could the op say or do after the negotiations were reopened to get the buyer to pay $650? The reason I ask is because I don’t understand why the transaction should be limited to the ‘agreed price’ or less.
 
But they hadn't shook hands yet, except a "virtual handshake" because it was a CL deal. The buyer hadn't seen it yet.
Signed, written contracts are still binding. Just try to return a car you just bought to a dealer.


I would have laughed and said $700 and started the process over and settled for what was originally agreed upon. No reason to get upset IMHO.
3 day return on cars in Illinois. Went with my friend to return a focus to a dealership.
 
What could you have said to get the buyer to pay $12,050 for that car. That’s what I’m asking. What could the op say or do after the negotiations were reopened to get the buyer to pay $650? The reason I ask is because I don’t understand why the transaction should be limited to the ‘agreed price’ or less.
It wouldn't need to be. I was just saying that's what I would have done in that situation. I would think the seller would let it go for whatever he had listed it for on CL, though. But like I said, no deal is done until it's done.

3 day return on cars in Illinois. Went with my friend to return a focus to a dealership
In California as the buyer you can pay for a 3-day return policy but people rarely pay for it. I know I never sold one but had to offer it to every buyer.
I've been retired for a couple of years so I don't know if there's been any changes to that.
 
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