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My New Zero Tolerance Craigslist Attitude.

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Calling the buyer's bluff and saying "ok turn around" (in other words, no) is different from "I refuse to deal with you because you even asked. I am insulted and triggered." That's where OP went wrong.
Sorry, the threat of terminating the deal is not trying to take a shot at a lower price.
He put that ball in play.
Would I have terminated the deal? No.
But, I totally get where the OP was coming from at that point.
Especially when the guy knew the OP was honoring a price he set by accident that was lower than he was willing to sell the item for.
 
I don't feel the OP was in the wrong. It was a semi complicated situation that didn't work out. Buyer got called out. It's haggling like poker. Big deal.

I have done similar a couple times with my CL transactions with people who just don't know how to haggle fairly and respectfully. I'll put in details from one transaction to clarify.
Posted a firm price ($175-bass cab), which is below market price ($200-225) as I want it to sell sooner than later, buyer still shoots a quasi reasonable offer via email ($150). I accept and we set a meeting time based on his schedule (2pm). Buyer shows up late (2:40) and spends an inordinate amount of time (15 minutes) testing out the (accurately described) item--which now is wasting my time as I have errands to run on my day off. When asked if the buyer want's to take the item home, he then shoots a low ball offer ($100), strictly just to do so and used 'driving through traffic' as the excuse. Knowing he drove from 10 minutes away, I decline the very poor counter offer and ask the buyer to leave since we can't close on our previously agreed fair price. In this case, the buyer backtracked and gave me his original offer. A couple other times the buyers were shell shocked that I just didn't cave like the Wal-mart returns counter they took me for.
Exactly!
 
I don't feel the OP was in the wrong. It was a semi complicated situation that didn't work out. Buyer got called out. It's haggling like poker. Big deal.

I have done similar a couple times with my CL transactions with people who just don't know how to haggle fairly and respectfully. I'll put in details from one transaction to clarify.
Posted a firm price ($175-bass cab), which is below market price ($200-225) as I want it to sell sooner than later, buyer still shoots a quasi reasonable offer via email ($150). I accept and we set a meeting time based on his schedule (2pm). Buyer shows up late (2:40) and spends an inordinate amount of time (15 minutes) testing out the (accurately described) item--which now is wasting my time as I have errands to run on my day off. When asked if the buyer want's to take the item home, he then shoots a low ball offer ($100), strictly just to do so and used 'driving through traffic' as the excuse. Knowing he drove from 10 minutes away, I decline the very poor counter offer and ask the buyer to leave since we can't close on our previously agreed fair price. In this case, the buyer backtracked and gave me his original offer. A couple other times the buyers were shell shocked that I just didn't cave like the Wal-mart returns counter they took me for.
It’s called negotiating. It’s what happens when someone wants to sell something and someone wants to buy something and each tries to get the best deal.
 
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I don't feel the OP was in the wrong. It was a semi complicated situation that didn't work out. Buyer got called out. It's haggling like poker. Big deal.

I have done similar a couple times with my CL transactions with people who just don't know how to haggle fairly and respectfully. I'll put in details from one transaction to clarify.
Posted a firm price ($175-bass cab), which is below market price ($200-225) as I want it to sell sooner than later, buyer still shoots a quasi reasonable offer via email ($150). I accept and we set a meeting time based on his schedule (2pm). Buyer shows up late (2:40) and spends an inordinate amount of time (15 minutes) testing out the (accurately described) item--which now is wasting my time as I have errands to run on my day off. When asked if the buyer want's to take the item home, he then shoots a low ball offer ($100), strictly just to do so and used 'driving through traffic' as the excuse. Knowing he drove from 10 minutes away, I decline the very poor counter offer and ask the buyer to leave since we can't close on our previously agreed fair price. In this case, the buyer backtracked and gave me his original offer. A couple other times the buyers were shell shocked that I just didn't cave like the Wal-mart returns counter they took me for.
It’s called negotiating. It’s what happens when someone wants to sell something and someone wants to buy something and each tries to get the best deal.
 
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It’s called negotiating. It’s what happens when someone wants to sell something and someone wants to buy something and each tries to get the best deal.
once the deal has been made and the parties are now in transit it's no longer negotiating.
It's being a jerk.
Sorry,
But if I load a bass cabinet into my truck and drive 30 min to meet you on a deal we have agreed upon I am going to get very upset if you try to renegotiate at the exchange point.
 
Sorry, the threat of terminating the deal is not trying to take a shot at a lower price.
He put that ball in play.
Would I have terminated the deal? No.
But, I totally get where the OP was coming from at that point.
Especially when the guy knew the OP was honoring a price he set by accident that was lower than he was willing to sell the item for.

Agree to disagree I guess. I think backing out while the guy was on his way wasn't the right thing to do.

Dangling the "i may turn around" was just an attempt at using leverage he turned out not to have. Still seems like the best answer is "no."
 
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Seems a little whiney but ok. I anticipate having people do this in private deals.
or maybe it seems dishonorable or underhanded?
Make the OP a deal, waste his time, get him mentally invested in the outcome and then try to lowball at the point of the actual transaction?
Some would say it's a "strategy" to manipulate someone.
FWIW,
I would have sold it to him for the original deal. However, I totally see the OP's side of this and I have no problem with him pulling out of the deal.
 
It's not just CL. I listed a car for 1150 on FB MP recently.
1st buyer: Will you take 800 for it?
Me: No.
2nd buyer: I'm driving from NC and will buy it, but want to know if you'll take 800?
Me: No.
3rd buyer: (I actually know this person) Will you take 800 for it? It's all I have.
Me: No.

So I guess I'll relist for 1600.00 and settle for 1200.00.....sheesh, it's a running daily driver for less than 1200 bucks, do I have to give it away?
 
once the deal has been made and the parties are now in transit it's no longer negotiating.
It's being a jerk.
Sorry,
But if I load a bass cabinet into my truck and drive 30 min to meet you on a deal we have agreed upon I am going to get very upset if you try to renegotiate at the exchange point.
I’m sorry, that is still negotiation. Until the item has transferred hands everything is a negotiation. Actually the fact that you have driven that far and loaded it in your truck, etc. gives the buyer some additional level of leverage (doesn’t seem fair, but it’s true - you incurred additional reasons to sell it). I know we don’t like this, but that’s just how it goes everywhere in the world. It’s business. You certainly reserve the right to decline any counter offer he makes.
“Thems that don’t ask, don’t get.”
 
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It’s called negotiating. It’s what happens when someone wants to sell something and someone wants to buy something and each tries to get the best deal.
It's called assumption, when one doesn't know the background of the person he is trying to school. 25 years of commissioned sales experience and being the son of parents who are commissioned sales people. Just the dinner conversations about their deals was a course on sales tactics and strategies. It's no wonder I'm in this field.

I wasn't going for the best deal on my end, otherwise I would be holding out for the $200-225 that it usually sells for. I was going for a relatively quick and easy sale, as mentioned in the post.


once the deal has been made and the parties are now in transit it's no longer negotiating.
It's being a jerk.
Sorry,
But if I load a bass cabinet into my truck and drive 30 min to meet you on a deal we have agreed upon I am going to get very upset if you try to renegotiate at the exchange point.
Yep. If you can't haggle and negotiate respectfully, I'm done.
I deal with poor negotiators all day at work and make the best of it, but when it's on my free time, especially when it's being wasted away, no.
 
It's not just CL. I listed a car for 1150 on FB MP recently.
1st buyer: Will you take 800 for it?
Me: No.
2nd buyer: I'm driving from NC and will buy it, but want to know if you'll take 800?
Me: No.
3rd buyer: (I actually know this person) Will you take 800 for it? It's all I have.
Me: No.

So I guess I'll relist for 1600.00 and settle for 1200.00.....sheesh, it's a running daily driver for less than 1200 bucks, do I have to give it away?
Yep. And people cannot see the forest for the trees here. By insisting on the game, they set themselves up to live in a world where we're constantly trying to outmaneuver each other and so we do things like raise the price so they'll feel like they got a great deal.

Personally I really hate all of this about sales. I'd much rather just be honest and ask a fair price and be done with it. But the mentality around buying and selling makes that next to impossible.
 
I’m sorry, that is still negotiation. Until the item has transferred hands everything is a negotiation. Actually the fact that you have driven that far and loaded it in your truck, etc. gives the buyer some additional level of leverage (doesn’t seem fair, but it’s true - you incurred additional reasons to sell it). I know we don’t like this, but that’s just how it goes everywhere in the world. It’s business. You certainly reserve the right to decline any counter offer he makes.
“Thems that don’t ask, don’t get.”

"It's just business" is what somebody tells themself so they can sleep well at night after a hard day of bull$hi!!ing and not acting in good faith.

Business
has turned into such an acceptable dirty word where the definition is 'creative ways to pull a fast one on somebody for income, without being illegal.'

:rollno:
 
Yep. And people cannot see the forest for the trees here. By insisting on the game, they set themselves up to live in a world where we're constantly trying to outmaneuver each other and so we do things like raise the price so they'll feel like they got a great deal.

Personally I really hate all of this about sales. I'd much rather just be honest and ask a fair price and be done with it. But the mentality around buying and selling makes that next to impossible.
Spot on! This is why I prefer to sell stuff on consignment and let the store deal with it.
 
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Yep. And people cannot see the forest for the trees here. By insisting on the game, they set themselves up to live in a world where we're constantly trying to outmaneuver each other and so we do things like raise the price so they'll feel like they got a great deal.

Personally I really hate all of this about sales. I'd much rather just be honest and ask a fair price and be done with it. But the mentality around buying and selling makes that next to impossible.
I’m so with you on that last point. It’s how I’ve approached deals, both business and personal, for many years. However, I did find out that I was in the minority in that regard. If only everyone would deal on these terms! I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
 
"It's just business" is what somebody tells themself so they can sleep well at night after a hard day of bull$hi!!ing and not acting in good faith.

Business
has turned into such an acceptable dirty word where the definition is 'creative ways to pull a fast one on somebody for income, without being illegal.'

:rollno:
+1. Rationalization. “It’s just business” when someone else gets the shaft. I’ve heard people use “buyer beware” in the same manner.
 
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"It's just business" is what somebody tells themself so they can sleep well at night after a hard day of bull$hi!!ing and not acting in good faith.

Business
has turned into such an acceptable dirty word where the definition is 'creative ways to pull a fast one on somebody for income, without being illegal.'

:rollno:
That’s not true for me (your definition of “it’s just business”). And .. I never look for “creative ways to ...” (blah blah). But I’m certainly experienced enough not to have my tender sensibilities offended when somebody tries to get a (further) last minute discount before consideration has actually been exchanged.
I have the power of “no” AND the ability to offer MY adjusted terms too (e.g. “as-is”, versus some limited warranty, cost for delivery, etc.).
 
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