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My rented backline adventures

#243
lowphatbass said:
Can't say how many times I've gotten than 4x10 1x15 biamped rig in some form or another. 300w into a 15 that handles 250w and 100w into a 4x10 handles 350w....step #1 is unplug the 15(or 18" ala SWR) and go full power/full range into the 4x10.
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I would put the 300 into the 410 and use the 15 with the 100 watts as a tone control.

I know I can't do that but I liked it.
 
#248
First post in quite a while, since this is the first fly gig I've had in a few months. This was a day of many firsts. Unfortunately, getting a 810 at Hershey Park was not one of those firsts. Getting quite upset at our drummer for screwing me like this. Meanwhile, he always gets the 7 cymbals he wants. GRRRRRR! Not happy.

But I digress. Anyway, this is the first day I've ever had a rented SVT work fine for a minute then stop working, and it's also the first time I have ever seen a micro being supplied by a backline company. Was quite surprised when the backline guy pulled this out:

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Markbass SD1200. As I used to own an LMII, I was not unhappy to see it, though I must admit that the compression that helped me decide to sell it was present in the SD1200 also. Still, it worked and I did get a good sound, so I can't complain too much. Except for not having an 810e, that is. But I am a professional, and I went with it, though I voiced my displeasure. Fat load of good it'll do me. Oh well, at least it wasn't a 410hlf ;)
 
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#249
Forgot to mention that this was the first gig in a long time where I didn't take the REDDI. I figured they had an SVT for me and the DI on that would be good enough. Didn't count on the SVT dumping a tube on me within a minute of plugging in! So no more leaving the REDDI at home.
 
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JimmyM said:
Today's rental rig:

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OT, but talking about beaming and dispersion and all that, maybe we're approaching this wrong?

if the principle is that the sound spreads wide from a narrow source and beams more narrowly from a wide source, wouldn't this setup result in a sound that projected up more (towards the bass player's ears) but side to side less (towards the other players and especially towards bass-adverse bandleader-vocalists)?

maybe we should all be running our 8x10s like this :)
 
#253
walterw said:
again with the 4x10?

maybe you should dig up the phone numbers to these backline companies and surreptitiously call them yourself!
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They wouldn't listen to me anyway. I've asked them face to face to bring the 810, and he's scuttled it every time. He has this theory that the 810 makes me play too loud, but since I struggle to hear the 410, he's absolutely wrong about that.
 
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walterw said:
OT, but talking about beaming and dispersion and all that, maybe we're approaching this wrong?

if the principle is that the sound spreads wide from a narrow source and beams more narrowly from a wide source, wouldn't this setup result in a sound that projected up more (towards the bass player's ears) but side to side less (towards the other players and especially towards bass-adverse bandleader-vocalists)?

maybe we should all be running our 8x10s like this :)
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I only did that because the stage was in the round and sightlines were getting blocked. And no, it doesn't work that way, otherwise, if it did, I wouldn't complain about the 410. And quite honestly, it's not that I mind the 410 so much. And there are some gigs where he actually does get me an 810. But they have 810's available to me at Hershey Park and he doesn't get one for me, so now it's more about the principle, especially when our guitarist got two Twin Reverbs.
 
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JimmyM said:
They wouldn't listen to me anyway. I've asked them face to face to bring the 810, and he's scuttled it every time. He has this theory that the 810 makes me play too loud, but since I struggle to hear the 410, he's absolutely wrong about that.
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Yeah, I much prefer playing with my 2000S cab to playing with my 1x15, even though the latter is a good little cab, because I can hear the speaker closer to ear level. I feel like with my 1x15 I'm always blasting the audience while barely hearing myself because my ears aren't on the back of my knees. Sometimes I want to bring the big 2x15, but my guitarist (in the folk/rock band.... in the doom metal band I always gig with the 2x15) whines about it being too loud (it can be extremely loud if I want it to be), or taking up too much room on stage (despite the fact that it doesn't really take up much more floor space than the 1x15, and in fact isn't as deep), or whatever. In his defense, on those gigs where he won't let me bring it, he's going through a tiny combo.

JimmyM said:
I only did that because the stage was in the round and sightlines were getting blocked. And no, it doesn't work that way, otherwise, if it did, I wouldn't complain about the 410. And quite honestly, it's not that I mind the 410 so much. And there are some gigs where he actually does get me an 810. But they have 810's available to me at Hershey Park and he doesn't get one for me, so now it's more about the principle, especially when our guitarist got two Twin Reverbs.
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Two twins?

Far be it from me to criticize other bands' rigs... but in a gig where the bass is limited to a single 4x10 because of volume concerns, what is the justification for not one, but two Fender twins?
 

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