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my very poorly controlled psychology study

Agree: 5,6,12,13,23: 1 point
Disagree: 24,30,49: 1 point
Score: 8

What does it prove? I think mine might be skewed a little because I am very good at math, but I am also very good in social situations. From what I know about Autism, that might skew my results a little.

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hrmmm... yeah probably should have provided more background info.

It seems that "autisticness" is a quantitative (i.e. sliding scale, not black and white) and herritable (runs in families) trait (characteristic) or set of traits. Which seems to be just another form of the normal variation in humans. As with many other human traits - e.g. weight - extreemly high or low levels CAN be pathological, but it depends on associated variables in the person and their environment.

The maximal level of autisticness (AQ off the top of this scale) are seen in people with full-blown autism, who have no language abilities and few "life skills" (think "rain man"), but can sometimes have unusual tallents.

Slightly lower levels (roughly 25 to the top of this scale, but it's not a definative disgnostic) are seen in people with high functioning autism or Asperger's syndrome, who can have significant social and emotional dificulties but once they find their "neiche" can be very productive members of society. (Asperger's syndrome is believed to be related to autism but doesn't involve the language difficulties. High functioning autism is just what it says it is, it's autism but the person is still able to function.)

Moderate levels of "Autisticness" (at my rough guess from testing my mates, maybe 20 to 30 on this scale) have been noted in people from professions which require strong rational thinking skills, like computer programmers, scientists, and engineers (hrmmm... yes maybe 39 is about expected for an embedded systems engineer... whatever that is...). An interesting effect of this is that if a couple are both successful at these rational-thinking-type professions they are much more likely to have a child with severe autism than a couple who are both "people-people".

Like i said before, it's not autisticness by itself that determines whether the effects are pathological. With weight those variables would be the person's height, ethnic background, and gender. With AQ the main variables are intellegence and cultural envoronment. Some cultural enviromnements may be harder or easier for someone with a high AQ to get on in (or low AQ - picture a cheer leader in the IT department). If someone has a high AQ but also a high IQ they tend to be able to compensate for a lot of the weaknesses and build on a lot of the strengths. Associated conditions like OCD can also have a big impact on people.

Some people think that asperger's syndrome is a way for the masses to pathologise geekyness, and that's right in a way. But i think it is a useful and interesting measureable trait, which if someone is having dificulties can be helpful to know, and if someone has no difficulties can be just interesting. I alwayse thought i had picked an interesting batch of friends, and that the women were even more eccentric, i made them all take this test and the guys scorred 16, 23, and 25 the women scorred 26, 29, and another 29.

I just like measurring stuff... and i've found a new thing to measure... hrmmm.. this quiz really should have had a question about an excessive urge to quantify things...
 
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those were all rough guestements from my totally uncorntolled study, but here' a bigger and better study showing people with cynically diagnosed asperger's/high-functioning-autism VS the rest of the poplation.
 
Agree: 4,5,6,12,13,16,19,22,23,33,41,46: 1 point
Disagree: 1,10,11,15,17,28,30,32,34,38,40,44,47: 1 point
Score: 25

If I had taken that test when I was younger, I probably would have been at the autistic end of the scale, but I've mellowed considerably with age, and most of my answers were split evenly between "slightly" agree and disagree.
 
Some people think that asperger's syndrome is a way for the masses to pathologise geekyness, and that's right in a way. But i think it is a useful and interesting measureable trait, which if someone is having dificulties can be helpful to know, and if someone has no difficulties can be just interesting.
It takes a lot more than "Geekiness" to get an Aspie diagnosis. Some of us aren't even that geeky.
 
If someone has a high AQ but also a high IQ they tend to be able to compensate for a lot of the weaknesses and build on a lot of the strengths. Associated conditions like OCD can also have a big impact on people.

thats interesting. like i said before, i am bipolar. i scored 39. i also do some very ocd things with my hands, but nothing else (though i wear latex gloves to clean and use WAY too much bleach, so i kind o hate gloves).

im not extremely social, and im not so sure this is that related to being autism, though, like you said, its a sliding scale. still, i purposely back off my bipolar medications before finals, so i can pull 8-10hr library marathons, and i tend to be in the top 98-99% on all tests (science, so its not that fake major **** [just kidding non-science majors]).

i wonder if those are all related. ive got a psych appointment this coming friday and will ask for my evaluation, or at least the percentages. i know i took several.

its funny how many people scored so (comparably) low. i also am a fiend when i hit the bass, but i still bet a bunch of people here practice more than i do (though i have been known to go for 20hrs straight). i can still back off the meds and set my abilities to 11 when i want to. it just means i crash out hard for a week, and need those breaks between the quarters to get myself "normal."
 
It takes a lot more than "Geekiness" to get an Aspie diagnosis. Some of us aren't even that geeky.

Hence the "in a way", the point being to a certain extent they are pathologising natural (and sometimes advantagious) variation. Similar argument to the argument against drug companies, deciding shyness is "social anxiety disorder".

Yeah i know a lot of geeks who aren't clinically definabe as asperger cases... must admit i don't know any aspies who aren't geeky though? but i don't know many non-geeky people in general so i'm wiling to put at least a bit of that down to sampeling bias.
 
Depends how you define "geekiness" I suppose.
Might also be worth noting that Asperger's shows up quite differently in females than it does in males.

The counterpoint to that is that it is interpreted differently in females. A lot of the bahaviours which it leads to may be seen as normal in one sex but unusual in the other.

but yeah, it's a rather foggy quantity, and it interracts with a lot of other foggy quantities like IQ, culture, other conditions (OCD is very closely related, and bi-polar people from my sample size of 2, seem to have higher AQ scores), and as you says it also interracts with masculine or fiminine behaviour (having an argument in another forum about gender and personality at the moment actually).