My worst soundguy experience (by now)

[Clemouze]

I think it would've been fine to adjust your EQ controls in the middle of the set. As long as you're not making extreme adjustments it you should be able to tweak things to your liking. You have put such a big emphasis on having your sound - using all your effects and amplification - but then are not willing to make a small EQ adjustment to suit your taste.



Are you saying you run HPF at 80hz? That alone could take you out of the subs and definitely can contribute to a harsh sound. It's possible that all the mids/treble in your tone would've been balanced out nicely if there was more low end in your signal. So the soundguy was maybe not completely wrong.

For the treble tweaking on the fly, as I Said, I didn't know if the trebles in FOH had been adjusted yet, and didnt want to reduce them fearing dulling my tone. In doubt, left them !

Yes High pass at 80 KHz, but it is my usual setting on recording and it sounds fine. Also I used the very same setting ( appart for the GK 7kHz treble knob) the previous week with another soundguy and everything was fine.
So with that I don't really trust the " There is nothing under 200 Hz "
I just think it was more " You have a LOT of 250 Hz low mid and 1Khz High mid and too much 7Khz trebles " and more important : " this is not the basic standard bass tone I was expecting "

 

[Pat C.]

Yes High pass at 80 KHz, but it is my usual setting on recording and it sounds fine.

Reproduction of live audio can differ quite a lot from recording. To automatically dump everything below 80hz on the bass would raise the eyebrow of almost any audio engineer.

Also I used the very same setting ( appart for the GK 7kHz treble knob) the previous week with another soundguy and everything was fine.

Different soundguy, different venue, different sound system, right? Don't assume one specific EQ setting is going to translate the same at every gig.

So with that I don't really trust the " There is nothing under 200 Hz "
I just think it was more " You have a LOT of 250 Hz low mid and 1Khz High mid and too much 7Khz trebles " and more important : " this is not the basic standard bass tone I was expecting "

If specific frequencies are emphasized it can render others almost in audible, particularly since we hear mids and highs so much better than lows. It could have definitely appeared to the soundguy - visibly (on an RTA) and audibly - that your low end was very weak.

That said, if that's the sound you want, go for it. FWIW, although a little bright and harsh I definitely dug the sound you had in the video. But you really need a soundguy who understands what you're going for and is willing to meet your needs. And as you've learned a quick change-over festival is not the place for that, unless you're the headliner and are calling the shots.

 

[LowFactor]

80hz is a very popular crossover frequency between subs and the rest of the PA. So he could have been technically correct that there was nothing for the subs.
Also may want to invest in a black extension cord for your pedalboard power just in case for next time.
Thought you guys sounded good in the video.

 

[s0c9]

80hz is a very popular crossover frequency between subs and the rest of the PA. So he could have been technically correct that there was nothing for the subs.
Also may want to invest in a black extension cord for your pedalboard power just in case for next time.
Thought you guys sounded good in the video.

Should totally depend on the subs in question and their TS parms.. I generally xover my passive subs, again depending on the model, anywhere from 88-106Hz.
With active subs, they're often preset points.

 

[LowFactor]

Should totally depend on the subs in question and their TS parms.. I generally xover my passive subs, again depending on the model, anywhere from 88-106Hz.
With active subs, they're often preset points.

I agree. Should depend on the subs and what the top boxes can handle. If your tops only go down to 110, then that should be the crossover point. Otherwise you get a hole in your frequency coverage. I much prefer the 60hz range for my sub crossover points. But my current rig the tops go down to 45Hz..... the 80hz range has been a popular crossover point for many systems over the years. In any case the OPs 80hz HPF would barely be touching your subs...

 

[Clemouze]

For info the bass tone I want live is something close to :