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NBD! Rickenbacker 4001v63 FireGlo (Pic heavy)

Thanks Snow. I'm with @kulit17 , after he got his 4001CS and his Snowglo...stick a fork in me, I'm done!

Hey don't forget this guy!!

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I still think a V63 would tempt me to consider going up for dessert too ;)
 
I just installed the harness you are talking about on the 4001CS. I may transfer it to the v63. After playing the v63, I'm not 100% certain I'm going to. The sound is mind blowing as it is. The Horseshoe on this is way hot. I lowered it, but it still is super hot. Pure nasty Chris Squire tone. It also has an incredibly flat fretboard. It has extremely low action. The back of the neck, though finished is super fast. The notes at the 20th fret are in perfect pitch and have as much volume / sustain as at the bottom of the neck (on all 4 strings). This is a studio quality bass. Now I just have to convince myself that it's actually mine. Maybe putting in all that time on my 4001CS really did pay off. This is my dream, come true. Wow.
What does that harness do? is it a reproduction or a custom improvement?
 
What does that harness do? is it a reproduction or a custom improvement?
First, sorry for the long answer.

To quote @Aceonbass (who made my harness):

"The stock harnesses in Ricks for the past several years have had anything from 175K to 330K pots in them, and they are assembled out of random batches of pots that have not been measured. These low values have a detrimental effect on the clarity of the tone, particularly on the top end. I build harnesses to the older specs with 500K tone, and 250K volume pots that have been measured and matched in pairs. When building harness for Ricks with humbuckers, I use 500K pots all around, and different tone caps measuring .022-.033uF. I'm also very OCD when I assemble the ROS output jacks in making sure the lugs aren't going to interfere with the walls of the holes in the side of the body, causing them to bind when you plug into them. I also test all of the components when I'm finished to make sure they're still in spec, and that there are no shorts or grounding issues. RIC doesn't do any of that when they build theirs, and I don't charge much more for an assembled harness than they do for a harness with the output jacks unattached. I also stock several vintage components that RIC hasn't had in decades.."

Also, to quote me, on my harness upgrade first impressions:

"I'm still dialing in my pickup heights (which is kind of new to me, any advice is appreciated), but yeah there's definitely more usable top end.

My 1992 Chris Squire Signature 4001CS harness upgrade first impressions:

Before:
First of all I have to say, my old harness was probably faulty, so I can't speak for any-one elses 'before' state, except mine - which wasn't a good sound. Before, when I dug in, it was muddy, distorted (not in a good way) and it just didn't sound 'Rick-ish'.

After:
I can dig in behind the bridge and it sounds good, for the first time ever. I also notice I can dig in real hard and get a kind of farty sound (good distortion), or back off and it whispers, without losing hardly any volume. It's like there's a compressor thing happening, without the adjustment sounds I find compressors make. The difference in tone from picking over the toaster, to behind the bridge pickup is huge. I can toss most of my effects now, as it has that classic Squire distortion that comes from picking hard and fast near the bridge. It's....more responsive? Like the difference between a cheap car and a boutique. It's actually changing how I pick and where I pick. It's a more sensitive microphone, which is unforgiving. All my mistakes seem more glaring now...:whistle:. Lastly, it sounds so good, that I go WOW! and forget where I am in the song, so I'm more prone to 'Wow-mistakes', now.. The cool sound is distracting, but I guess I'll get used to that. Oh yeah, it's a lot quieter now, too.

More to come, as I learn about how to play this new sound....;).

Finally, I have to thank @Aceonbass for his design, quality control, and customer service. Second to none, as far as I'm concerned. Stellar work!"

Lastly, there is the option of going Stereo - a separate output for each pickup. Plug a mono cord in, and the output is mono - with the bridge volume IN/DOWN. Pull the knob UP, plug in a stereo cord, and it's stereo. Functionally, it's the same as "Rick-O-Sound", but ROS is just a trademark name for stereo using the two output jacks.
 
NBD! Rickenbacker 4001v63 FireGlo

My (almost) new 4001v63 arrived today. It was purchased new in 2001 by a guitarist that wanted a bass to match his FireGlo 12 string guitar. Not being a bass player, he never played the bass. It's got about 10 minutes of playing time on it.

This new v63 will semi-retire my Rickenbacker 4001CS Chris Squire signature model, which I was deciding to restore or not, in this thread:
Chris Squire signature Rickenbacker. To restore, or not to restore?

So, the answer to my restoration dilemma has finally been answered (No restoration for the Chris Squire 4001CS signature...for now anyway). This new v63 is pretty much the same bass as my signature model, apart from the fingerboard / headstock wood, pickguard signature and the headstock shape, so I am already very familiar with it. I've played my Chris Squire signature some 2 to 4 hours a day since new in 1992 and it shows it. I've never taken very good care of it, as it had a finish issue from the start. This replacement v63 will be treated very differently. The v63 will still be played every day, but will be handled very carefully and will reside in its case when not in use.

As for my 4001CS, nothing will ever 'replace' it, but this v63 sure comes close! I'll play the 4001CS every once in a while, for old times sake. It is truly a trusted friend and I have many wonderful memories playing it. I just got a very nice vintage wiring harness for the 4001CS that I suspect will end up in the new v63, someday soon (or, maybe the v63 will get its own vintage wiring harness.....) We'll see. For now, I'm just happy to have a shiny new vintage replica Rickenbacker bass in my hands! I've wanted this bass since I first heard Roundabout and Highway Star in 1972. To me, it's the best sounding / playing / looking bass in the world (for the type of music I play). Bar none. I could not be happier! Off to play!!!

Cheers,
Neal.

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I'm confused. That bass looks new, what with all the case candy, etc. I didn't think they have made those for years. Is it new?
 
I'm confused. That bass looks new, what with all the case candy, etc. I didn't think they have made those for years. Is it new?

if you read the OP, maybe it would've prevented your confusion ;)


My (almost) new 4001v63 arrived today. It was purchased new in 2001 by a guitarist that wanted a bass to match his FireGlo 12 string guitar. Not being a bass player, he never played the bass. It's got about 10 minutes of playing time on it.
 
Re: toaster 1/2" vs 1" positioning...tonewise, not sure if there's a huge difference. Paul or someone else more knowledgeable than me can chime in, but the shift was more for neck strength under tension. At 1/2", there wasn't much wood mass, so there were cracking / splitting / snapping issues.

I did some further up reading and this was the reason why according to a few others as well.

However, I did some more reading and testing and it seems that when the neck pickup is at the 24th fret (1" position) some of the harmonic overtones/nodes actually get cancelled out. I have been toying around with this great applet lately (Guitar Pickup Response Demonstration) which allows you to play around with different pickup positioning and seeing the frequency responses of them and this phenomenon is certainly visible when you enable the "show 16 harmonics" feature. The 8th and 16th harmonics are completely muted/cancelled out. Relocating the neck pickup either way, even just a tad, makes them audible again. This occurs no matter how you blend the two pickup volumes (in fact soloing the neck pickup altogether also mutes two additional harmonics - the 4th and 12th)

I'm curious how this would affect the tone though. It may actually cause a Rick with the 1/2" neck pickup to have a greater bass response, a greater mid scoop @ around 400hz, and yet sound brighter than the 1" positioning because more of the higher harmonics are present in the sound. To me, in theory, this would emphasize the tone I like out a Rick (bump in the low mids, scoop in the mid-mids, and another big bump in the upper mids).
 
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