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NBD: Sire Marcus Miller P5R

Apr 10, 2018
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I've been looking for a P Bass for quite a while, as it was the one general style missing from my line-up - I do have a 5-string Squier PJ, but rarely use the fifth string, so wanted something that could be a bit more of a reliable workhorse.

For ages I was stuck on which Squier to get, because I have no imagination, but folks here kept throwing Sire into the mix. After doing more research, it seemed that Sire made better quality basses for less money than Squier. I did look at P7s for the PJ versatility, but they seemed needlessly complicated, so finally I was settled on the P5. I decided on the R because the inlays on the maple fretboard look so hard to see, and by getting one in tobacco sunburst it was as close as I could get in looks to my late hero Andy Rourke's '62 P-Bass.

Right out of the box, this thing feels incredible. It's set up perfectly, not a single adjustment needed - that's an absolute first, even on basses that cost 5-6 times more. So far the stock pickup sounds great, plenty of low end (something they seem to have fixed since the earliest models) but a very P Bass character. I'll fully reserve judgement until its first full band practice, but I'm very optimistic.

And then there's the neck... my god, the neck. I loathe the phrase "plays like butter", but if it ever fit anywhere, it would be here. It's smooth with a capital smoo. The rolled fretboard edges mean you just don't feel the frets as you slide along them. The roasted maple is gorgeous, and your hand glides along it. And the rosewood fingerboard looks like it's been properly treated - no hint of dryness or need for oiling early on. I had worried that a P neck might be too wide for me, but I had no need to worry here. It's perfect.

I have no idea how they make a bass this good for so little money. I paid just 366 of the King's English pounds for it (about 495 USD). It's absolutely mind-blowing, and far better quality than any Squier I've ever bought. And so good that I've gone ahead and ordered a D5 too (don't judge me).

So thank you to everyone here that helped me join the Sire club!
 

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Congrats! I’ve got the 5 string version in the same color… had Sweetwater string it with Labella’s before it shipped, and it’s been wearing them since. It’s a great instrument. Enjoy!
Nice! I'm gonna keep mine with rounds so I can go for an Andy Rourke or Bruce Foxton tone. But my incoming D5 might get flats. So far the only bass I've got with flats is my Höfner cos, well, it's the law, right?
 
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I bought a used vintage white one of these back in November and within a few seconds of holding that neck I understood the appreciation for Sire! Since then I picked up a V3 and a V6 5-string too and absolutely adore them.
 
Happy new bass day! Congratulations on such a beautiful bass.
Love that caramel tinted roasted maple neck 😍
I only just got my first Sire bass, a P7, and am already planning my next purchase, a Sire V7 they're that good 😅
 
Nice score! I love my P5 and P7. I agree on the simple layout of the P5. If im feeling like playing a P, I almost always go with it over the P7.

Just out of curiousity since you have both, besides the simpler controls of the P5, can you hear any noticeable difference in tone when playing just the P-bass pickup on the P7 compared to the P5 (and which P-bass pickups do you have in each)?

I'm looking for any excuse to add a P5R (natural finish) to my evergrowing bass wishlist 😅
 
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Just out of curiousity since you have both, besides the simpler controls of the P5, can you hear any noticeable difference in tone when playing just the P-bass pickup on the P7 compared to the P5 (and which P-bass pickups do you have in each)?

I'm looking for any excuse to add a P5R (natural finish) to my evergrowing bass wishlist 😅
Tbh ill have to dig the P7 out of the closet to give you a good answer. I just haven't played them back to back in a while. I do remember really liking the sweepable mids on the P7. It could really get that obnoxious bridge pickup honk that I like! I dont remember the p pickups sounding very different but I guess the only fair comparison would be to solo the p on the P7 and run it in passive mode, something I dont think ive ever done!

I'll get them out tomorrow and let you know.
 
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Tbh ill have to dig the P7 out of the closet to give you a good answer...

I'll get them out tomorrow and let you know.

I'd really appreciate that but no rush at all as I've only just gotten my P7 less than 2 weeks ago. The one I have is the Sweetwater Exclusive which is a gorgeous bass but unfortunately doesn't have the mid-sweep only the cut/boost. No regrets though as I love it and am planning to get the New Gen V7 once they're released hopefully.

Main reason I was curious about the tonal differences between the P7 and the P5/P5R is they apparently have different pickups:

The P7 has the Marcus Super-PJ Revolution Set.

The P5/P5R have the Marcus Vintage-Fat Precision Revolution Set

Which is a good enough reason/excuse to get a P5 in the future if the tone difference is noticeable 😅
 
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