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Need lighter cabs

#41
I recall my fEarful F115 to be pretty light (and SUPER loud!), but I looked it up and they're about 45 pounds, depending how optioned. Maybe an F112 cab would get in closer to your weight requirements. I think plenty of guys here use them to gig. Just remember, putting a bass cab pointed at your ankles isn't going to do great things for you hearing it clearly. When using a single smaller cab, always try to elevate it.

With that said, even 35 pounds can be heavy - so if you're finding options in the 25 pound range, that might sway me more. Either way, I'd use a folding dolly to transport any cab a distance.

You've got options!
 
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Larry99 said:
I'm not sold on the idea that a 12 will be as loud as a 15. Physics is physics. Not saying I don't believe you but I guess I'd have to see for myself and demo somthing before I buy. I will be using for gigs and not just rehearsal and eventually might add a 210 or 112 to a 115.
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Instead of just considering the diameter of the cone, think about how far in and out the cone can move (aka excursion or x-max) and how much power it can handle. A 12" cone can be engineered to have more in & out "pumping travel", handle more power, and therefore move more air and be louder than a conventional 15" driver.
Physiscs is indeed physics. and it's beautiful :)
 
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Larry99 said:
So getting old and blah blah blah need lightweight cabinets blah blah blah...
Any other options beside Markbass and Aguilar? ...by that I mean 15s in the neighborhood of 35 lbs.
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I'm a huge fan of both Schroeder and Vanderkley cabs - I own both. They each produce excellent sound, and are in the weight range you are looking for.
 
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Also worth mentioning you can customize the handle on Revsound cabinets. We ended up swapping the handle color on mine, mid-build, based on how it looked as it was coming together. If you need jumbo ergonomic handles, or casters for easy rolling, or whatever, a custom cab is the way to go. Based on our conversations, I would say David at Revsound really understands the needs of middle-aged and older musicians.
 
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I prefer 112 cabs at more like 25 to 28 pounds. huge weight difference, and the sound is amazing with the right manufacturer.

Lots and lots of options. I use yorkville 112 bass cabs, since they went neo with celestion they are really excellent. but so many great ones.

remember a 15 or a 12 can sound identical or very different depending on all kinds of things. the 15 might be a db louder ... that is the only consisent advantage of a 15 over a 12.
 
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The Genzler BA15-3 SLTs are just about the best single 15" cab out there!
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lomo said:
25841695[/URL], member: 71668"]Instead of just considering the diameter of the cone, think about how far in and out the cone can move (aka excursion or x-max) and how much power it can handle. A 12" cone can be engineered to have more in & out "pumping travel", handle more power, and therefore move more air and be louder than a conventional 15" driver.
Physiscs is indeed physics. and it's beautiful :)
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There's no replacement for displacement :)

Also worth considering is the cabinet design. It's not just about what the driver is capable of doing in isolation, but about what it does in a system.
 
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lomo said:
Instead of just considering the diameter of the cone, think about how far in and out the cone can move (aka excursion or x-max) and how much power it can handle. A 12" cone can be engineered to have more in & out "pumping travel", handle more power, and therefore move more air and be louder than a conventional 15" driver.
Physiscs is indeed physics. and it's beautiful :)
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Excursion generally trades off in part with sensitivity (all things being equal), so simply adding Xmax to a driver can end up being a step backwards where sensitivity is a more important parameter. This is a balancing act that we must deal with when designing drivers.

monsterthompson said:
Also worth considering is the cabinet design. It's not just about what the driver is capable of doing in isolation, but about what it does in a system.
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Absolutely true.
 
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I've been researching this lately as it looks like I will have more than a couple gigs next year that will require a rig that can put out some volume, and the cabs I have that can handle it are old and just ridiculously heavy.

I'm sure I'd love the Mesa 115s everyone is recommending. Except: you can't buy them. Mesa is experiencing supply chain problems and I'm being told I'd have to wait 4-6 months if I ordered today.

I'm leaning towards Genzler or Barefaced.
 
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I am a big fan of Traynor. I use their equipment and have no hesitation in recommending it. Not only is it very well made (here in Canada, not overseas), Traynor uses quality components and really stands behind their products. With the difference between the Canadian and American dollar, Traynor is very competitively priced as well. Here is a link to their 15 cab; listed at 39 lbs. TC115NEO – Traynor Amps
They also make a 200 watt combo with a 15" driver that comes in at around 30 lbs, and have recently introduced a 400 watt combo with a 15" driver. I have the 200 watt combo, and have been using it for 5 or 6 years.
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steelbed45 said:
Another point to consider is that it's not just the weight, it's the carry. I had a couple of the subway 12's and those flip handles did a number on my wrist. Subway cabs and Barefaced are brought up in almost every cab question thread, and I just realized the reason I no longer own either anymore is because of either the flip handle or the little strap that Barefaced puts on theirs. Definitely a first world issue, I admit.

By comparison, my Glockenklang cabinet weighs 41 pounds and it's a helluva lot easier to move around for me.
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I have a Berg CN112 at 28 pounds and a CN210 at 33 pounds. The 210 is an easier carry, well balanced, not that the 112 is heavy but it is boxier.
 
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Larry99 said:
So getting old and blah blah blah need lightweight cabinets blah blah blah...

Any other options beside Markbass and Aguilar? ...by that I mean 15s in the neighborhood of 35 lbs.
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You are going to get a variety of responses (which is a good thing). Ultimately, you need to go with what you feel will do the best job to fit your needs. I really don't think you can go wrong with a Mesa Subway 115. Awesome cab!
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