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Need opinions and guidance building a space elevator.

#21
DwaynieAD said:
how is this going to improve quality of life? I saw no mention of how in all of that bloated mess.
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Currently anything we want to do in space has to be either flown up in a rocket, or constructed up there. Having a space elevator would make transporting things into space far easier, but also provide a stable staging platform for anything happening in space. The biggest hurdle in nearly all cases is simply breaking Earths atmosphere.

As I mentioned, the construction of lab space that is available for rental would be hugely beneficial, there is science and technology in the works all over the world that is been held up because either they have no option to work in the environment they need, or if they do have the option it is ludicrously expensive. A space elevator would make this so much more accessible it's not funny, so a lot more research could take place without needing some sort of huge big time financial backer.

Having a staging platform where any kind of space vehicles could be constructed would allow us to explore and travel far further than we ever have before. Something built in space has no need to by aerodynamically designed, it doesn't need to take off and land, or pass through any form of atmosphere, it can be whatever shape or size is convenient and functional to contain the features it needs, and it can be constructed in a low gravity environment.

Bottom line imo is that there is a lot of stuff out there for us to see and experience, so much to learn from that could benefit humanity is so many ways, and that no matter what we do people are ruthless consumers and will have stripped this planet of everything its got before to long, so the sooner we get out there amongst the stars the better.

And as mentioned, once one space elevator is built, the prospect of more elevators becomes very achievable. Space will no longer be unreachable, unachievable, a dream, space will be a reality that is just a few hours on an elevator away.
 
#22
Simo98 said:
Currently anything we want to do in space has to be either flown up in a rocket, or constructed up there. Having a space elevator would make transporting things into space far easier, but also provide a stable staging platform for anything happening in space. The biggest hurdle in nearly all cases is simply breaking Earths atmosphere.

As I mentioned, the construction of lab space that is available for rental would be hugely beneficial, there is science and technology in the works all over the world that is been held up because either they have no option to work in the environment they need, or if they do have the option it is ludicrously expensive. A space elevator would make this so much more accessible it's not funny, so a lot more research could take place without needing some sort of huge big time financial backer.

Having a staging platform where any kind of space vehicles could be constructed would allow us to explore and travel far further than we ever have before. Something built in space has no need to by aerodynamically designed, it doesn't need to take off and land, or pass through any form of atmosphere, it can be whatever shape or size is convenient and functional to contain the features it needs, and it can be constructed in a low gravity environment.

Bottom line imo is that there is a lot of stuff out there for us to see and experience, so much to learn from that could benefit humanity is so many ways, and that no matter what we do people are ruthless consumers and will have stripped this planet of everything its got before to long, so the sooner we get out there amongst the stars the better.

And as mentioned, once one space elevator is built, the prospect of more elevators becomes very achievable. Space will no longer be unreachable, unachievable, a dream, space will be a reality that is just a few hours on an elevator away.
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I had not thought specifically about the aerodynamic aspect. Thinking about it now, it's amazing I missed it. Obviously you have made some very insightful points. Thanks again.
 
#23
Instead of an elevator, build a huge arch that spans from San Francisco to New York. The apex of the arch will be in space. A rail system will run along the arch and carry passengers into space and get picked up by a space shuttle that ferrys people back and forth to the space stations.
Sounds good on paper.
 
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#24
darius8 said:
Instead of an elevator, build a huge arch that spans from San Francisco to New York. The apex of the arch will be in space. A rail system will run along the arch and carry passengers into space and get picked up by a space shuttle that ferrys people back and forth to the space stations.
Sounds good on paper.
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This is a pretty novel idea. The space elevator team however has GLOBAL aspirations. When completed this will perhaps change the planet for the better, by creating a clear point of cooperation (just like the first space stations!) for the countries in the world to work together. Ten years, the clock is ticking. Check it out, then incredulousness might be founded.
 
#26
Just one use of the Space Elevator would be to safely lift radioactive waste into low orbit so it could then be shoved into a trajectory that would send it into the Sun for "recycling" instead of spending BILLIONS trying to store it on/under the surface of the Earth.
 
#29
Well, $62000 of funding for a multi-multi-billion dollar project is definitely a joke. Yeah, let's crowd source funding for what would be the most complex civil engineering exercise in man's history, decades before we have need. Sweet. Great use of funding and man hours.
 
#31
MJ5150 said:
The joke will be you being the only guy who didn't contribute to this early on and be part of the future of mankind. Quit fussing around and donate now!

-Mike
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They can't even make a building a mile high, I'm pretty sure that the chances of a structure tall enough to reach outer space without collapsing will never happen in my life, my children's life, or their children's life.

I'm guessing that the joke is on those who are donating...
 
#33
duff beer said:
They can't even make a building a mile high, I'm pretty sure that the chances of a structure tall enough to reach outer space without collapsing will never happen in my life, my children's life, or their children's life.

I'm guessing that the joke is on those who are donating...
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The man's name is Michael Laine, he along with many, many of the really high level brains in science realize a space elevator would literally change the world. Yes, I know it sounds crazy, maybe we could come up with a less outrageous name for it, it's just that is exactly what it will be. An elevator in space, kinda simple in name anyway. I ask you to look at the links provided, and become an informed skeptic. No harm there, right?
 
#34
DerHoggz said:
Space elevators could become a reality, I just don't see what the OP's attachment is. I didn't read the link, too long and rambly.
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I like most people on this forum, in my music life, play bass. I also believe that we as a planet, should, to the greatest degree possible, agree to work together! Yep, I know it's kinda old fashioned. And the number one thing most of the entire civilized world is doing, to whatever level they are able, is busting their butts to get to space! We actually began cooperating with the Russians in space, during the Cold War. The Cold War! Remember that? It was this cooperation among other things which led to the fall of the Wall. There are 50 countries with some type of space program. And space exploration because it's dangerous, expensive, filled with unknowns, is one of the most unifying pursuits we humans pursue, thus I'm an ACTIVE supporter of the Space Elevator project.
 
#35
duff beer said:
They can't even make a building a mile high, I'm pretty sure that the chances of a structure tall enough to reach outer space without collapsing will never happen in my life, my children's life, or their children's life.

I'm guessing that the joke is on those who are donating...
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I encourage you to become an INFORMED skeptic. Go to liftport.com for like a minute and a half. This is going to happen in ten years. The lunar elevator, not the earth to space type, as yes, indeed, there are still some hurdles there.
 
#36
Angus said:
Well, $62000 of funding for a multi-multi-billion dollar project is definitely a joke. Yeah, let's crowd source funding for what would be the most complex civil engineering exercise in man's history, decades before we have need. Sweet. Great use of funding and man hours.
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Do you have any idea how much your life, just your single life, has benefitted from the Apollo space program? All that tech, those experiments they are conducting up there, the only place many of them can be accomplished, is going to benefit the earth, you, your kids, etc. Be an INFORMED skeptic or be another internet opinion machine. The internet has lot's of opinion not much fact or experience. Michael Laine was a NASA contractor, he's not some random dude wanting to build a bridge made of yogurt.
 
#37
MatticusMania said:
Good luck on your arduous quest!
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I appreciate your support, and encourage you to contribute just 8$ to the kickstarter.com campaign. Or just tell every single person you know about this crazy dude on TB who is spun up over a crazy space elevator project. Or you could tell one other person and if they are touched by it, then they perhaps tell one more, etc. So, just tell one.
 
#38
This is more information about the incredible, very smart, motivated people who are going to make this happen. This is not a man
trying build a bridge made of yogurt! Be an INFORMED skeptic, not an internet opinion machine.

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#39
Let me put it this way, NASA or any other national space organization has probably already done a cost/benefit analysis of a space elevator. All it takes is one airplane or meteor to take down a multi-billion dollar elevator. The Earth and mankind can benefit using that money on other things than a space elevator. Save your $8 and get a $5 footlong at Subway plus $2.20 to make it a combo. Combo includes a fountain drink and chips or cookies. Shameless plug?!?! YES! Buy food at Subway. It will change your life!
 
#40
placedesjardins said:
Let me put it this way, NASA or any other national space organization has probably already done a cost/benefit analysis of a space elevator. All it takes is one airplane or meteor to take down a multi-billion dollar elevator. The Earth and mankind can benefit using that money on other things than a space elevator. Save your $8 and get a $5 footlong at Subway plus $2.20 to make it a combo. Combo includes a fountain drink and chips or cookies. Shameless plug?!?! YES! Buy food at Subway. It will change your life!
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NASA in fact did do exactly that. And Michael Laine was the contractor who headed the project. When the economy fell, his project along with quite a few others went under. Be an INFORMED skeptic. Please.
 

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