Need to be heard!

[Shawn Blanton]

I play a Fender Squire Classic Vibe 60's P Bass in a heavy metal band!
I'm the vocalist and I'm just learning to play, the problem is we have an overzealous drummer heavily influenced by Metallica and Iron Maiden!
I have $600 to spend on a bass combo!

I'm considering the Orange Crush Bass 100 combo!
Any suggestions?

 

[abarson]

I don’t think a 100 watt combo is enough in such situations. What’s available in your local used market?

 

[Gearhead17]

My guess is that at least one 410 cabinet is needed here. Combos in this situation will likely not get you past the guitarist. What is the guitarist using right now?

 

[el murdoque]

410 is a minimum. The Orange will be crushed as soon as the drummer comes in.

 

[FrenchBassQC]

100 watt won't cut it, if money is a concern look at the Peavey Max combos (Max 300 or Max 250), I own the Max 250 and it is a surprising combo you get for the money. You might also want look at the Peavey MiniMax SS head ($399) and you look for a used 4X10 cabinet but the total will cost over the $600 you mentioned for sure.

 

[twinfallsbass]

Whatever you get, do NOT cut the MID’s! LOL
Wanna be drowned in the mix fast, cutting out your MID’s is a good way of doing that, especially in Metal.

 

[dbase]

 

[Raw N Low]

Reasonable amp choices: GK 700rb, 800rb, or 1001rb

Cab recommendations: Ampeg 115HE (x2) or Ampeg 410HE.

Orange makes great amps and cabs but, the cost of admission is going to dissolve your $600 budget.

 

[paskisti]

Whatever you get, do NOT cut the MID’s! LOL
Wanna be drowned in the mix fast, cutting out your MID’s is a good way of doing that, especially in Metal.

This is not automatically correct advice. If you want to fit bass with high gain guitars you need to cut 500-800hz range to avoid them fighting. Below that you have room to boost and make you audible, lets say 100-300hz range, and boost in 3khz helps too to cut through. 1khz boost/cut depends on your taste and guitar sound and 5khz is pretty useless for bass. All this depends on the bass guitar sound too, not all have the same natural highs and valleys.

This is just generalization and details may vary because of playing style, bass, guitars, amps, room etc. My intension was to pay attention that mid scoop talk is not very accurate term, there is mid scoop and mid scoop as we can see.

With 600 euro/dollar you can have 300-600w amp and 4x10 cab second hand and I would say that is the bare minimum. And remember to use earplugs, even it makes singing bit difficult. Metal cannot be played quiet and is always too loud for unprotected ear.

 

[lermgalieu]

Did you accidentally switch your period and explanation point keys on your keyboard?

 

[Slough Feg Bass]

the answer here is used Peavey amps and cabs to build yourself enough firepower to destroy all in your path.

 

[Gorilla Fingers]

+1 for used Peavey gear. Sure, it weighs a little, but it's loud and cheap enough to be within your budget.

Also +1 on getting a head and cab instead of a combo. A combo just won't cut it here.

 

[mikeswals]

I wouldn't buy anything new, used stretches your $ farther. And I woudn't buy a combo either.

A quick scan of Tamp craigs, and there 's a pretty sweet Trace 410 half stack listed at 800...I'd try that, maybe tray to haggle.

GK800RB heads are killer too! doesn't leave much for a good cab though. but if you can swing that 800RB and the GK410 in the other lising, wil be a great rig, as long as no speakers are damaged.

tampa bay musical instruments "bass amp" - craigslist

lakeland musical instruments "bass cabinet" - craigslist

 

[BassNugget]

Behringer Burgera bass combo is extremely loud for what it is.

Fender Rumble 500. Also very loud combo.

Or, if you go used, see the advice before this post.

 

[Kaa]

Find an old Peavey from the 80's. Loud as all get out, damn near indestructible, and cheap. Find an old Peavey cab to pair with it, and a distortion pedal, and metal away the day.

Edit: It don't get any more metal than this:

 

[InhumanResource]

I play a Fender Squire Classic Vibe 60's P Bass in a heavy metal band!
I'm the vocalist and I'm just learning to play, the problem is we have an overzealous drummer heavily influenced by Metallica and Iron Maiden!
I have $600 to spend on a bass combo!

I'm considering the Orange Crush Bass 100 combo!
Any suggestions?

You’re going to have to go as big as you can. Used 410’s are cheap but loud. It might be smart to make sure it is an 8ohm cab so you can add another later if necessary (most amps will run a pair of those at 4ohms safely). Get yourself a decent (used) head to drive it…but on the used market you should be able to solve this for 600 bucks pretty effectively.

 

[AlexanderB]

Used PA power amp around 2*500W into 4 Ohms. Pedal preamp with line out. Used 410 cab. Later, a second 410 can be added.

Amp $200?
Pedal $100?
Cab $300?

 

[MCS4]

Whatever you get, do NOT cut the MID’s! LOL
Wanna be drowned in the mix fast, cutting out your MID’s is a good way of doing that, especially in Metal.

This is not automatically correct advice. If you want to fit bass with high gain guitars you need to cut 500-800hz range to avoid them fighting. Below that you have room to boost and make you audible, lets say 100-300hz range, and boost in 3khz helps too to cut through. 1khz boost/cut depends on your taste and guitar sound and 5khz is pretty useless for bass. All this depends on the bass guitar sound too, not all have the same natural highs and valleys.

I'm pretty sure that when people say "do not cut the mids," they are not generally intending to say "do not make a moderate adjustment to one limited frequency range in order to ensure that the bass does not compete with other instruments." Instead, they are saying something more like "do not use a ridiculously scooped, smiley-face EQ in the way that a lot of metal bass players still do for some reason." I think the latter is more or less automatically correct advice in most situations.

 

[twinfallsbass]

I'm pretty sure that when people say "do not cut the mids," they are not generally intending to say "do not make a moderate adjustment to one limited frequency range in order to ensure that the bass does not compete with other instruments." Instead, they are saying something more like "do not use a ridiculously scooped, smiley-face EQ in the way that a lot of metal bass players still do for some reason." I think the latter is more or less automatically correct advice in most situations.

Bingo!

 

[Discount Bassy]

Used GK1001RB and a, or a couple of, used Peavey Headliner 410's.