I agree with all of the above - and didn't mean to infer that I was talking about Peavey's entire product line... It was more in response to the claims that "My Fury/Forum/Foundation/T-40 is better than an MIA Fender"...
- georgestrings
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- Thread starter TheFenderBender
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I agree with all of the above - and didn't mean to infer that I was talking about Peavey's entire product line... It was more in response to the claims that "My Fury/Forum/Foundation/T-40 is better than an MIA Fender"...
- georgestrings
You're not actually trying to claim that you couldn't get anyone to trade an MIA Peavey for a Ric, are you???
- georgestrings
Read it and weep (I sure did).
I did finally get rid of them, $400 for the pair, when I went back to school in the late 80's. today, they'd have gone for 5x that, if not more. We're in the Good Old Days now, not back in the Good Old Days.
LS
Used Rics were a dime a dozen in the 80s.
I bought a factory fretless 74 4003 in a pawnshop for $325 in 1987.
Exactly. You couldn't throw those things away 20 years ago, you'd have gotten a ticket for littering. And they were absolutely all over the place....
Of course nowadays....
LS
I'm not surprised - have you ever played in a band? Or gigged? or been a Rick owner 20 or more years ago? Seriously, from the way you talk about things like this, I can't see where else you get your ideas.
LS
Yeah, I've been a gigging bassist for over 30 years, and know BS when I see it - *if* you sold a pair of Rics for $400, you did a very dumb thing... I'm also saying flat out that I don't believe you couldn't find anyone that would trade a Peavey bass for a Ric...
I've often wondered the same things about you - after all, didn't you state that the P Bass and Jazz Bass are some of the worst designs ever??? - and that they both have terrible balance???
I've averaged around 75 gigs per year for atleast the last 7-8 years, FWIW - my current band averages over 100 gigs a year...
- georgestrings
See, this type of thing (and the deleted Ad Hominum attacks) is what makes me think you're a new player, or have never gigged or otherwise played out with a band, etc. Fenders are all boutique quality with perfect balance and Ricks were always worth their weight in gold - those are simply not experienced points of view. You do more traffic-copping on TB than actual contribution too, which is another indication to me that you might not actually have the credentials you say you do.
Nevertheless, though you brought it up by accident, it's a legitimate question - Given that Ricks are practically collector's items these days, it's hard for folks new to the bass to even conceive of the fact that they were practically firewood only 20 years ago. But it's true. They were in pawn shops all over the place for cheaper than most Fenders (which were also somewhere between cheap and dirt cheap).
I bought my current 4003 in 2000 brand new for a little over $900. That was around the time they were starting to spike in value, now it's probably worth $1400+. Mine is a factory blem so if it had been mint, it'd probably be worth even a little more than that.
Strange but true.... And just shows what can happen in 20 years....
LS
Actually, in the late '70s and early '80s it WAS the high end Peavey. If you saw a pro playing one (and you often did, particularly in country music) it was usually a T-40.
I've been gigging regularly with a Rick bass since 1988 with no issue, but don't take my word for it.
Back on subject, I've always wanted a T40, it was actually the very first bass I saw, brand new in the local music store, a nice natural finish on it, several months before I started playing (on a used 1970s short scale plywood POS).
The T40 was gone shortly after that, and I've never seen one in person since.
The only bad thing I could ever say about Peavey is that I don't like the angular logo.
Their gear has been pretty good to me considering what I've had and played through over the years, including their PA gear, which is abundant around here.
1980s stuff is still soldiering on as good as it did when it was new.
It may not be good for name-dropping, but it gets the job done in a relatively economically deprived area.
NY city this ain't.
Back on subject, I've always wanted a T40, it was actually the very first bass I saw, brand new in the local music store, a nice natural finish on it, several months before I started playing (on a used 1970s short scale plywood POS).
The T40 was gone shortly after that, and I've never seen one in person since.
The only bad thing I could ever say about Peavey is that I don't like the angular logo.
Their gear has been pretty good to me considering what I've had and played through over the years, including their PA gear, which is abundant around here.
1980s stuff is still soldiering on as good as it did when it was new.
It may not be good for name-dropping, but it gets the job done in a relatively economically deprived area.
NY city this ain't.
Yeah, the Peavey amps from the 80s weren't great sounding, but they were like tanks. I still see them being used today. Same with their PA stuff. Workhorses.
Yeah, I have seen that, now that you mention it - although I've also seen them sell for as little as $200-$300...
- georgestrings
Yeah, the CS-800 was the industry standard for bar bands for many years. Built like tanks (weighed nearly as much) and ran forever. In my studio I still have a couple of them that I acquired used and dirt cheap in the mid 80's. I use them all the time and they still get it done.
That's what you get when you let your engineer/CEO design his own logo.
There are several logos that are designed to look like Fender's if you are too far away to read them, but none that I can think of that look like Peavey's. You have to admit that it's distinctive and unique, and it being so ugly that no one has tried to emulate it is a bankable trait.
I had to laugh at this - when I was gigging seemed like every C&W bass player had a T-40 at the time. I went through quite a T-40 GAS period for a while too. They're great basses. Weigh a ton, but they're really good....
LS
There used to be a lot of their guitars (same shape as the T40) used in upper echelon country bands from what I've seen, too.
I've had a Mark IV head that was good, never should have traded it.
Our band's PA is still mostly Peavey: SP5Gs now, used to be SP2s and 2X18 subs, but now we're using powered Yorkville single 18 subs.
Still have a 1980s vintage CS1200 (that was bought used at the time) running the SP5s.
They just won't quit!
I've had a Mark IV head that was good, never should have traded it.
Our band's PA is still mostly Peavey: SP5Gs now, used to be SP2s and 2X18 subs, but now we're using powered Yorkville single 18 subs.
Still have a 1980s vintage CS1200 (that was bought used at the time) running the SP5s.
They just won't quit!
Meanwhile, back to the topic, Peavey should oh so reissue that T-40. If they made a fretless model, I'd consider getting one myself. Like I said I GAS'ed for one pretty hard when I was in high school and after that, but I blew my next 15 years estate on a Rick 4001 instead. Live and learn, I guess.
BTW, I shouldn't diss their amps too hard. The old stuff did sound kind of mediocre, but you couldn't kill it with 100 baseball bats and a nuclear weapon. It was incredibly durable stuff...
LS
BTW, I shouldn't diss their amps too hard. The old stuff did sound kind of mediocre, but you couldn't kill it with 100 baseball bats and a nuclear weapon. It was incredibly durable stuff...
LS
