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NEW 2010 Fender Jazz!

#41
GeneralElectric said:
I like how no one who bothered reading the link realized that that was MSRP which has nothing to do with MAP pricing. Its going to sell for just under 2 grand new. Which, while a lot of money, fits in line with the American Vintage Series basses, which is basically what this one is.
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I did realize.
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I knew and know that there is a difference between MSRP and MAP. I didn't gloss over those differences. My core point still stands: It's still an expensive bass, for what it is, MSRP, MAP, or otherwise. I think the real question is whether you think that you're going to get a real "deal" on an Anniversary/Special Edition bass. Maybe you can. While nobody will likely pay MSRP, I would be surprised to see these below $2K.

To add $50-$100 (in Fender cost) of "improvement" to a Jazz bass and then to charge an extra grand for that (or to give sellers license to potentially add that surcharge), is, IMO, regrettable at the least, and dubious at the most.

Well, Fender will continue doing this kind of thing, and we'll be having the same discussion about the newest, latest, greatest "collector focused" instruments, 2, 5 and 10 years from now... Aren't you happy?

:)
 
#43
I jusy get a little tired of the "if its fender they must be screwing u over" talk. Yes larger companies tend to have larger profit margins. That's just the nature of the beast. Now I will say I dont care for many of their products but I do believe some of them are of excellent value. Just my 2 cents. Gotta go order an $90 pickguard thats made by hand........
 
#45
asss-king price is a joke... make a better product dont add cupholders(ash tray) and say its the 50th production run for us and we (the public) will like it... .seems big and bloated like gm was..i love fenders but this is a joke.
 
#46
"asss-king price is a joke... make a better product dont add cupholders(ash tray) and say its the 50th production run for us and we (the public) will like it... .seems big and bloated like gm was..i love fenders but this is a joke."


Funny thing is no one's played it yet....LOL! Now that's a joke.
 
#47
Another thing to point out is the fact it is an anniversary model and some knuckleheads will buy it thinking that will make it "worth" more. Like they will appreciate in value faster...:hmm: At the end of day it's a jazz bass as pointed out repeatedly here. I never seen "anniversary" models sell for more on the used market, but I've seen a lot people asking more for them...(please feel to jump in here with an example that proves me wrong;))
 
#50
Thunderthumbs73 said:
I did realize.
:eyebrow:

I knew and know that there is a difference between MSRP and MAP. I didn't gloss over those differences. My core point still stands: It's still an expensive bass, for what it is, MSRP, MAP, or otherwise. I think the real question is whether you think that you're going to get a real "deal" on an Anniversary/Special Edition bass. Maybe you can. While nobody will likely pay MSRP, I would be surprised to see these below $2K.

To add $50-$100 (in Fender cost) of "improvement" to a Jazz bass and then to charge an extra grand for that (or to give sellers license to potentially add that surcharge), is, IMO, regrettable at the least, and dubious at the most.

Well, Fender will continue doing this kind of thing, and we'll be having the same discussion about the newest, latest, greatest "collector focused" instruments, 2, 5 and 10 years from now... Aren't you happy?

:)
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What I don't understand is how everyone seems to think this is "so expensive". In the mid fifties a new fender Strat was aproximately 250.00 without a case - average income in the U.S was 4800.00. Today this bass LISTS for 2799.00- average income in the U.S. 40.000.00....Seems inline to me.
Whats even more amazing is that Fender has 4 different price points for those that are looking for alternatives. Squire/MIM/MIA, and CS so you can pick your price point. Didn't have these choices back in the fifties. It seems to me Fender is not doing anything outrageous when it comes to pricing. 2799.00 to much for you for an anniversary J-bass? Buy a Squire! I payed 2K for my 64 LTD CS J-bass, and its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. The woods used are premium for their type, the workmanship is Fenders best, the sound is excellent, and for me it is one of the instruments I wanted growing up so it has that special appeal that other brands can't provide . I plan on keeping it till I'm dead so resale is not that much of an issue to me, but it will increase in value in a few years unlike most custom instruments.

Finally has anyone priced a MTD? Can you say 6K? And we are not talking MSRP here thats what they cost PLUS tax! Now thats expensive!
 
#51
Rocky said:
What i don't understand is how everyone seems to think this is "so expensive" in the mid fifty's a new fender Strat was aproximately 250.00 without a case - average income in the U.S was 4800.00. Today this bass LISTS for 2799.00- average income in the U.S. 40.000.00....Seems inline to me.
Whats even more amazing is that Fender has 4 different price points for those that are looking for alternatives. Squire/MIM/MIA, and CS so you can pick your price point.

Finally has anyone priced a MTD? Can you say 6K? And we are not talking MSRP here thats what they cost PLUS tax! Now thats expensive!
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Agreed 100%!
 
#54
Don't you own a 64 Relic?
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I did and I sold it. I don't see your point...no double standard here. It was a custom shop relic in a one off color. I sold at at a comparative price to other CS Jazzes. Actually I took a substantial loss on it but that was my problem. This anniversary bass is gorgeous IMHO. I was just pointing out "anniversary" models aren't necessarily worth more on the used market.
 
#55
sflajimmy said:
I did and I sold it. I don't see your point...no double standard here. It was a custom shop relic in a one off color. I sold at at a comparative price to other CS Jazzes. Actually I took a substantial loss on it but that was my problem. This anniversary bass is gorgeous IMHO. I was just pointing out "anniversary" models aren't necessarily worth more on the used market.
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Your right. I realized that after posting it and deleted my post. I don't want this to become personal. The expression of opinions and ideas is a wonderful thing.
 
#59
electracoyote said:
+1,000,000

$2,799 MSRP??? For the Fender logo?

I can build three arguably nicer custom basses for that amount of money, and because Fender is so ridiculous, that's usually what I end up doing.
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MSRP is much higher than the actual retail price. For example, American Standard P-bass is $1799.99 MSRP, but actually sells for $1199.99. Actual street price for the 50th Anniversary Jazz bass should be about $2000.00. Still high but much less than the MSRP.
 

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