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New 3leaf Pedal???

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sound clip of the un-modded 3leaf.

its a pretty bad mp3..but shows what the pedal sounds like, i suppose.

recorded by taking a line out from my LMII into a zoom h4n.

edit- oh yeah, and the pedal made everything clip.. in other words.. spencer, volume trimpot for wet signal on the production model??
 
#325
behndy said:
nice.

whew. WET.
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yeah. for the record, whenever i was actually playing ie at the gig i used it at, i was not able to get it to sound like that at all- theres no "happy place" with that gain, it either stays open or wont open. again, this will probably be fixed temporarily with the new chip.. and permanently for the production model..

but, with absolute attention to my dynamics and the filter, that was the sound i was getting. i'd still love for the production model to have the "plug and play" vibe that the old mutrons have.
 
#326
cybersnyder said:
Yeah, I am too.
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........ yuck. lol.

*shudder*

cybersnyder said:
A few kinks worked out and this thing will rock. Definitely getting one and I like the idea of the IC socket.
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you know, i have actually no use for a swappable IC socket. that's just something i know i'd never do. i'd buy a pedal to get the sound that that pedal makes, but i'm never going to open it up to install a chip to get a different sound out of it.

i'm kinda done with multi-efx units, and they're less of a hassle then that.

but, to each their own.
 
#327
behndy said:
........ yuck. lol.

*shudder*



you know, i have actually no use for a swappable IC socket. that's just something i know i'd never do. i'd buy a pedal to get the sound that that pedal makes, but i'm never going to open it up to install a chip to get a different sound out of it.

i'm kinda done with multi-efx units, and they're less of a hassle then that.

but, to each their own.
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i dont think spencers intentions is for this to become the momark of filters, its just the easiest way for us with prototypes to have a usable filter for now.

heres my less-impressive, in the mix sample of the prototype-
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i step on it at about 50 seconds, this demonstates what im talking about- the first note bubbles, then it just stays open.
 
#328
No samples here, but the new IC definitely makes it useable.
I've only been able to take about 10-15 min to play with it. I'm able to get pretty close to the sound I generally go for with my HAZ (the settings I use in my funk band).
I think it's a little wetter than the HAZ (or can get wetter).
It's also got more of an overdriven sound - that Larry Graham-ish vibe.
I don't know yet if that's inherent in the pedal, or if it's because it's driving my amp harder (Genz Benz with NeoPak - tube preamp). I'm definitely lighting up the input level more with this than with the HAZ.

Overall, I'm liking it. Definitely liking it.
 
#334
Man, I seem to be the black sheep of the five. I haven't had any of the issues that anyone has mentioned; all three Warwicks are active (with the $$ having a REALLY hot signal), and have no problem getting that filter to play nice. As mentioned previously, I did catch some of the limitations that groooooove was mentioning, so I know it has them.

Got the IC chip today, as well as my 18v adaptor for my PP II+, so I plugged everything in and did some comparisons between 9v and 18v, and the old/new chip.

In terms of 9v to 18v, it's night and day. It is a lot more aggressive with 18v power, but it seems to sacrifice a lot of the low, thick filter that is present with 9v power. It does respond faster with 18v, but I can't get past the tone difference. Maybe playing with some internal switches and fiddling with the knobs more will yield something better to my liking, but for right now, I'm sticking with the 9v setup.

No bummer on dropping the $10 for the 18v adaptor cable; I've been meaning to have one around just in case I needed one, so it'll come in handy at some point.

Then I grabbed that new chip and switched it out. I can see what everyone means when they say this one responds better, because it does. However, it's missing that syrupy low end that I'm getting with the original circuit, despite the slower response. And maybe I beat the strings to death, but it's not "that" slow for me when I'm playing. For some of the spots where I'd like to use it in my group, I don't think that'll matter or really affect everything.

However, it did pique my interest in possibly obtaining a Groove Regulator. I did like the sound the new chip had and the difference between the two, but really like the original chip better.
 
#335
One Bad Monkey said:
Man, I seem to be the black sheep of the five. I haven't had any of the issues that anyone has mentioned; all three Warwicks are active (with the $$ having a REALLY hot signal), and have no problem getting that filter to play nice. As mentioned previously, I did catch some of the limitations that groooooove was mentioning, so I know it has them.

Got the IC chip today, as well as my 18v adaptor for my PP II+, so I plugged everything in and did some comparisons between 9v and 18v, and the old/new chip.

In terms of 9v to 18v, it's night and day. It is a lot more aggressive with 18v power, but it seems to sacrifice a lot of the low, thick filter that is present with 9v power. It does respond faster with 18v, but I can't get past the tone difference. Maybe playing with some internal switches and fiddling with the knobs more will yield something better to my liking, but for right now, I'm sticking with the 9v setup.

No bummer on dropping the $10 for the 18v adaptor cable; I've been meaning to have one around just in case I needed one, so it'll come in handy at some point.

Then I grabbed that new chip and switched it out. I can see what everyone means when they say this one responds better, because it does. However, it's missing that syrupy low end that I'm getting with the original circuit, despite the slower response. And maybe I beat the strings to death, but it's not "that" slow for me when I'm playing. For some of the spots where I'd like to use it in my group, I don't think that'll matter or really affect everything.

However, it did pique my interest in possibly obtaining a Groove Regulator. I did like the sound the new chip had and the difference between the two, but really like the original chip better.
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interesting take on the power, i wouldve never guessed you'd like 9v better (i diddnt try 18v yet)

you dont feel like the filter tends to stay open if your actually playing? my basses have very hott signals too, the filter opens just fine, my issue was with the decay / whatever you want to call it.

i also dont have the chip yet, so no new comments from here.
 
#336
groooooove said:
interesting take on the power, i wouldve never guessed you'd like 9v better (i diddnt try 18v yet)

you dont feel like the filter tends to stay open if your actually playing? my basses have very hott signals too, the filter opens just fine, my issue was with the decay / whatever you want to call it.

i also dont have the chip yet, so no new comments from here.
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Me neither. I would've thought the extra power would've really opened it up and just accentuated what it already had, but it didn't. Very surprising.

It does stay open, definitely. It sounds weird, but I kind of like it lingering open a little, as opposed to being quick. For some of the tunes I'm going to work it in, it's a little slower which'll compensate for the filter closing. But for some really fast things, I can see it being a setback.
 
#337
One Bad Monkey said:
Me neither. I would've thought the extra power would've really opened it up and just accentuated what it already had, but it didn't. Very surprising.

It does stay open, definitely. It sounds weird, but I kind of like it lingering open a little, as opposed to being quick. For some of the tunes I'm going to work it in, it's a little slower which'll compensate for the filter closing. But for some really fast things, I can see it being a setback.
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its not neccesarily a setback, its just the biggest difference i'm hearing between this and a mutron.

and for me its not even neccesarily "fast" passages (where youd expect any filter to not have a chance to close.) playing not-speedy motown style grooves, it still tends to stay open (making it appear very gentle and polite.)
 

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