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Double Bass New Acoustic Image 'DOUBLESHOT'

Hi all, I'm hoping to get some opinions on this:

I'm currently looking to possibly replace my Mark Bass 102P cabinet which I am driving with an AI Clarus SL for DB. The Mark Bass does reasonably well for my louder gigs (12-16 piece big bands) but I sometimes find myself fighting to get the bass response to my liking. I bought the Upshot when it came out and liked its more natural sound with my bass than I get on the Mark Bass.

I'm looking at either replacing the Mark Bass with a Doubleshot (retaining the Clarus) or going a slightly different direction and trying a Phil Jones Superflightcase. I realize it's a little bit apples v. oranges but both setups seem to get well reviewed for DB and moderate volume jobs. Switching to a combo amp from my current setup would be nice but the Doubleshot with Clarus is almost as easy to deal with.

I am leaning somewhat towards the Doubleshot since it's less money as I already own the amp it'd do well with and I'd have to order the Superflightcase without trying it first. Any thoughts? Thanks!
 
I'm looking at either replacing the Mark Bass with a Doubleshot (retaining the Clarus) or going a slightly different direction and trying a Phil Jones Superflightcase. I realize it's a little bit apples v. oranges but both setups seem to get well reviewed for DB and moderate volume jobs. Switching to a combo amp from my current setup would be nice but the Doubleshot with Clarus is almost as easy to deal with.

I am leaning somewhat towards the Doubleshot since it's less money as I already own the amp it'd do well with and I'd have to order the Superflightcase without trying it first. Any thoughts? Thanks!

If you are having trouble hearing in those large groups, then the Superflight Cases has two upfiring speakers that really help with that, I've set in where someone had the PJB SF and there's something quite

wonderful about that setup. I think the Double Shot will do something similar with the side firing drivers, but I've not played through one yet. Another option would be to get the new Audiokinesis TC-112 which also

has an upfiring horn. That particular speaker will get much louder for those 12-14 big band gigs.

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It's not the inexpensive option, but you would never need another speaker IME.
 
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If you are having trouble hearing in those large groups, then the Superflight Cases has two upfiring speakers that really help with that, I've set in where someone had the PJB SF and there's something quite

wonderful about that setup. I think the Double Shot will do something similar with the side firing drivers, but I've not played through one yet. Another option would be to get the new Audiokinesis TC-112 which also

has an upfiring horn. That particular speaker will get much louder for those 12-14 big band gigs.

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It's not the inexpensive option, but you would never need another speaker IME.
Thanks. That TC-112 looks like serious business! I am liking the idea of the upward firing drivers for sure; hadn't heard of that one before.
 
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and when I say the top firing horn may as well not have been there, I think it's just the design of the crossover?. It's probably good for home theater use but it handled only the high frequencies, I roll off only the very top end to get rid of the finger noise on the strings, but essentially nothing was coming through the Tweeter. That's not to say the cabinet didn't sound good. It sounded phenomenal. I have made posts about how good it sounded, but the top firing horn really wasn't doing anything. I unfortunately parted ways with that speaker as well for other reasons.
 
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If you are having trouble hearing in those large groups, then the Superflight Cases has two upfiring speakers that really help with that, I've set in where someone had the PJB SF and there's something quite

wonderful about that setup. I think the Double Shot will do something similar with the side firing drivers, but I've not played through one yet. Another option would be to get the new Audiokinesis TC-112 which also

has an upfiring horn. That particular speaker will get much louder for those 12-14 big band gigs.

It's not the inexpensive option, but you would never need another speaker IME.

I’ve been using my Clarus 4S/ DoubleShot combo with an 18 piece big band in rehearsal and performance with excellent results. I actually prefer the DoubleShot to my Fearless F112 in that situation due to the way it space-fills the hall while staying focused and articulate. No problem whatsoever being heard. Signal chain: Full Circle—>HPF2—>ParaDriver DI—>Clarus 4S—>DoubleShot.
 
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All very nice pieces of gear, but what's the purpose of the ParaDriver? Is it the parametric EQ band, the baked in tone, switchable voicing for arco/solos, or something else? Just curious. Sorry to derail the thread.

it’s a very valuable tool. Used judiciously it can near-eliminate piezo “quack” and lend a more open warmth to the tone. It’s on full-time for me in jazz settings, exclusively pizzicato.
 
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Thanks everyone, I am probably going to try the DoubleShot first. The 13 piece band I regularly play with shouldn't be too loud for it and the larger BB I sometimes play with has PA support; the rest of the time I'm doing combo jobs. I'll definitely report back!
I have the AI Ten2 and when I'm playing in a very noisy environment or in the big band I use the Phil Jones Ear Box. That thing is amazing and helps SO much!! For me it was $$ well spent!!
 
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I have the AI Ten2 and when I'm playing in a very noisy environment or in the big band I use the Phil Jones Ear Box. That thing is amazing and helps SO much!! For me it was $$ well spent!!

With apologies for taking a big detour on the thread topic, are there advantages to the Phil Jones Ear Box to an active monitor such as Behringers B205D[1] that I'm missing?

From what I can see an active monitor is

1) Cheaper
2) More configurable (volume, tone, multiple inputs)
3) Can be run without a primary amp.

I can see that the passive Ear Box has the advantages

1) lighter by around 4 pounds
2) only requiring one cable

As such the active B205D would be the obvious choice for me. Are there advatages to the Ear Box that I'm missing (reliability perhaps?) or do you value its two advantages that I see higher than I do?

[1] https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_b_205d.htm
 
With apologies for taking a big detour on the thread topic, are there advantages to the Phil Jones Ear Box to an active monitor such as Behringers B205D[1] that I'm missing?

From what I can see an active monitor is

1) Cheaper
2) More configurable (volume, tone, multiple inputs)
3) Can be run without a primary amp.

I can see that the passive Ear Box has the advantages

1) lighter by around 4 pounds
2) only requiring one cable

As such the active B205D would be the obvious choice for me. Are there advatages to the Ear Box that I'm missing (reliability perhaps?) or do you value its two advantages that I see higher than I do?

[1] https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_b_205d.htm
I go by the "simpler is better" way of doing things. It's passive, small, light, no power/switches/knobs to go bad or get in the way and has a very small footprint. It provides the highs/mids necessary that help my intonation and if I need it louder I move my ear just a little closer. It only uses one cable from my Ten2 and the "near field bass monitor" fits every need I have! Again, it all depends on what your requirements and needs are. If it's to hear just yourself, I'd go with the Ear Box. I love mine!
 
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I go by the "simpler is better" way of doing things. It's passive, small, light, no power/switches/knobs to go bad or get in the way and has a very small footprint. It provides the highs/mids necessary that help my intonation and if I need it louder I move my ear just a little closer. It only uses one cable from my Ten2 and the "near field bass monitor" fits every need I have! Again, it all depends on what your requirements and needs are. If it's to hear just yourself, I'd go with the Ear Box. I love mine!

Thanks, and fair enough we have different priorities.
 
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