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Double Bass New Acoustic Image 'DOUBLESHOT'

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Bringing it up off the floor makes a huge difference. I last used the Doubleshot in a small rehearsal space (maybe 10x20) with a medium-loud drummer and guitar player. When I was setting up, I didn't think that it sounded that great but once we started playing, it filled the space and sounded superb. I had it on a little fold-up stool, maybe 12" off the (carpeted) floor. Give it some time, try it in a few different settings, see how it goes. FWIW, my home practice space is wood floors in a small room and it sounded great, but I don't really need an amp in there. It wasnt until I started taking it out that I realized its merits.

Don't know what to say about the hiss - I don't get any with my upright and an electric bass (P bass) - maybe you have a defective mid speaker or crossover??
 
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bherman said:
Don't know what to say about the hiss - I don't get any with my upright and an electric bass (P bass) - maybe you have a defective mid speaker or crossover??
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How strong are the mids coming out of the front driver on your amp. I think the key is to make sure his mid range driver is playing as low as it should.

The literature says "Two-way asymmetric crossover." I think this means the HPF and LPF have different slopes, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is overlap in the frequency range of the 10s and mid driver. Unfortunately I can't find anything beyond, "Two-way asymmetric crossover" :bored:.
 
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I have been gigging regularly with my DS since September, I believe.

I still love it! I own the combo and agree that elevating it makes a huge difference for me. I made a stand and bracket and it works very well! Pictured is an older version and it has since been refined. Lightweight and stable.

My Perpetual>Golia>FC>DS has been very satisfying. Happy camper here.
 

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@Michael Drost That is a terrific looking system! It looks like you have changed the bracket that holds the speaker, and that it's very unlikely that you milled this yourself. Could you share what the construction of the top part of that DS stand is please?
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Chris,

Thanks!

I used this pole mount, available on Amazon: Pole Mount

I checked out a few different pole mounts, and the preexisting holes in this one catered to the DS and US. I can mount both the Doubleshot and Upshot with this bracket.

The brackets were bent from 10"(each side) of 1" aluminum stock from Home Depot. I coated the ends with 3 or four coats of this rubber coating(it worked great and seems to be durable).

I drilled a 1/4" hole to bolt it to the bracket. Once aligned, I super glued the brackets to the pole mount for extra rigidity.

I use this pole. Small, light and it works great. I did drill a 1/4" hole in the stand and insert a pin to my preferred height. This also adds extra support.

This stand has been stable and versatile. I can adjust the height and direction of the mid-range speaker.

I hope this helps!
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@Michael Drost Thanks much. :) Just out of curiosity, do you do anything to help attach the head to the cabinet (dual lock, etc), or just let gravity do its thing? I'm looking at the stand and thinking that it looks like something I could easily accidentally bump into and knock over, but I can be kind of a klutz in tight stage spaces.
 
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Chris Fitzgerald said:
@Michael Drost Thanks much. :) Just out of curiosity, do you do anything to help attach the head to the cabinet (dual lock, etc), or just let gravity do its thing? I'm looking at the stand and thinking that it looks like something I could easily accidentally bump into and knock over, but I can be kind of a klutz in tight stage spaces.
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Great question!

Actually, I mount my head(Clarus SL) by the 1/4" tripod mount on a mic stand fitted with a tripod adapter. This stand actually holds my iPad as well. Dual-purpose. I connect the head and speaker with a 10' speakon cable.

I prefer to have the head on my right-hand side for easy adjustment.

It's an extra stand, however, it adds stability to the head and provides a home to my iPad which joins me on most of my gigs.

The picture was from one of my first "DS" gigs. I don't use the tripod stand anymore. As mentioned earlier light and low-profile mic stand with a tripod adapter.

I hope this helps clarify my setup.

Mike
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I just received a DoubleShot today. Hooked it up with my EA Micro 550 and it sounds great playing electric. I was kinda worried about the side firing but it punches great standing right in front of it. It does sound much better on a Gramma pad however. I went ahead and ordered another DoubleShot and a Clarus SL to have killer portable rig.

Any small amp should be able to sit on top of this with at least 1/2" tall feet properly located.

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bherman said:
Bringing it up off the floor makes a huge difference.
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I own the combo and agree that elevating it makes a huge difference for me.
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I am surprised to read that number of players prefer to elevate the Doubleshot. After reading the manufacturer's white paper, I thought that placing the cab on the ground was part of the design...

http://www.acousticimg.com/assets/docs/AI Upfiring - Downfiring - Sidefiring White Paper.pdf
 
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A thought after seeing the white paper: Perhaps from a player's physical perspective, “coming from everywhere” could also sound like "coming from nowhere in particular" on the stage or small practice room instead of the more familiar planar source of a 'normal' situation.

I'd be more interested in how one actually sounds out in the house in different configurations. My setup isn't complete until I walk out away from the stage a ways (wireless) and listen, it's never the same out there. Not much help for the wired UB members here, but it certainly changes how I arrange everything, whether it's a fretted, fretless or acoustic gig. Has anybody had a chance to do this? Or at least gotten feedback from another musician or recorded themselves with different setups?
 
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As we’ve mentioned before, Chris, Michael, and myself all heard it at
at the ISB convention last June it covered both the small jazz recital room and the main stage acts. It filled those spaces quite well. For Double Bass, it’s quite remarkable. They had it on a pedestal in the main auditorium @ 5 ft in the air. You could hear the bass distinctly out in the house. I use MAS 1/8’s can achieve similar sound levels. While I really like the new small super cabinets, I think we sometimes think we expect way to much from something that small. My choice is to go FOH, for others concerned with their sound in the audience a bigger cabinet can be the best option.
 
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Zbysek said:
I am surprised to read that number of players prefer to elevate the Doubleshot. After reading the manufacturer's white paper, I thought that placing the cab on the ground was part of the design...

http://www.acousticimg.com/assets/docs/AI Upfiring - Downfiring - Sidefiring White Paper.pdf
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After doing a little experimenting with mine I've change my opinion on this. To me up close it sounds better on my Gramma pad, however when putting some distance between me and cab it sounds substantially better on the floor.
 
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Tried mine some more. I think I just had to get it in a more open space. I take back all the negative stuff I said about it. Most of the things I was hearing was the room. I can hear the difference with the tweeter button in or out. You can definitely hear yourself better with the tweeter on. It is a remarkable cab. I am just not sure if it is better than what I have. My old dusty GK mb112x gets just as loud with more lowend, but I can tell the AI has a bit more clarity.

The one thing that both scares me and intrigues me is how it sends sound to everyone but me lol. I hear completely different tones depending on where I sit. But also I have tried this thing on its side and backwards and really see how you could fight a bad room with this thing. I really want an upshot at this point, but tilting this thing on its side may be a better option?
 
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