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New Ampeg Venture Series
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When you're sending the signal post-EQ out of the amp to FOH via XLR, you can set the gain and leave it there while controlling the stage volume using the master volume without affecting the FOH.
I have no idea of what "FOH" is, but it makes sense. Just a bit confusing to name it "gain" though...
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Gain is not the same thing as overdrive. Adding gain can be used sometimes for it, but the gain knob is for gain whether it’s cranked up or barely on.
And FOH is front of house, ie the sound tech and board controlling the house sound.
Technically, master volume is also gain. In this case it might have been smarter to clearify the function with a different word.
Never heard of, but then I'm not from an english speaking country.
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The industry use of master volume is independent of gain, this is pretty much a global term.
FOH is not a word, it stands for front of house, and is also pretty much a global term from what I have experienced (maybe translated).Never heard of, but then I'm not from an english speaking country.
So is the use of "gain" for controlling clipping. Are you nitpicking for the sake of it?
Third answer with the same content. I still have never heard of it.
I thought you had a legitimate question at first, but now I feel like you’re just trying to start an argument. Doesn’t matter whether you’ve heard of something or not, doesn’t matter whether you understand the terms or not. Those terms have been around way longer than you, and they will be around long after you’ve exited this earthly plain. My suggestion is to get used to it.
So I'm starting an argument because three separate people answer the same thing without reading each other answers? Right.
I've been on music forums for 30 years and never heard the term "FOH". Not very strange to ask about it then, don't you think?
Regarding gain and volume, I simply think it's strange to use those for an amplifier where it does zero difference in sound. I would have called them something else if I was Ampeg. But I'm not.
Edit: And to clarify, "gain" could be used about master volume too. Both volumes are "gain" (to that specific amplification stage). But, since there has evolved some sort of common terminology, usually "gain" means "input signal to preamp" and "volume" means "input signal to power amp".
Then, you expect them to do certain things, that in 99% of the cases will affect how the amp sounds. But not here. Thus my question.
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May I please ask what you think they should do?So I'm starting an argument because three separate people answer the same thing without reading each other answers? Right.
I've been on music forums for 30 years and never heard the term "FOH". Not very strange to ask about it then, don't you think?
Regarding gain and volume, I simply think it's strange to use those for an amplifier where it does zero difference in sound. I would have called them something else if I was Ampeg. But I'm not.
Edit: And to clarify, "gain" could be used about master volume too. Both volumes are "gain" (to that specific amplification stage). But, since there has evolved some sort of common terminology, usually "gain" means "input signal to preamp" and "volume" means "input signal to power amp".
Then, you expect them to do certain things, that in 99% of the cases will affect how the amp sounds. But not here. Thus my question.
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The industry use of master volume is independent of gain, this is pretty much a global term.
FOH is not a word, it stands for front of house, and is also pretty much a global term from what I have experienced (maybe translated).Never heard of, but then I'm not from an english speaking country.
FOH has been used in the audio/music industry internationally for the entire 45+ years that I have been in the touring pro audio industry (system engineer and FOH engineer), and has been used frequently in every online music and pro audio forum I have seen. There is even a long running (40+ years) international pro audio magazine called FOH!So I'm starting an argument because three separate people answer the same thing without reading each other answers? Right.
I've been on music forums for 30 years and never heard the term "FOH". Not very strange to ask about it then, don't you think?
Regarding gain and volume, I simply think it's strange to use those for an amplifier where it does zero difference in sound. I would have called them something else if I was Ampeg. But I'm not.
Edit: And to clarify, "gain" could be used about master volume too. Both volumes are "gain" (to that specific amplification stage). But, since there has evolved some sort of common terminology, usually "gain" means "input signal to preamp" and "volume" means "input signal to power amp".
Then, you expect them to do certain things, that in 99% of the cases will affect how the amp sounds. But not here. Thus my question.
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Gain and Master (or master volume or even volume) have been used internationally for decades as well, here’s an example from a company based in your home country…
Your responses are starting to sound like trolling or a gross misrepresentation of your experience level IME (in my experience).
Why are you repeating exactly what you've already written?The industry use of master volume is independent of gain, this is pretty much a global term.
FOH is not a word, it stands for front of house, and is also pretty much a global term from what I have experienced (maybe translated).
FOH has been used in the audio/music industry internationally for the entire 45+ years that I have been in the touring pro audio industry (system engineer and FOH engineer), and has been used frequently in every online music and pro audio forum I have seen. There is even a long running (40+ years) international pro audio magazine called FOH!
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Gain and Master (or master volume or even volume) have been used internationally for decades as well, here’s an example from a company based in your home country…
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Your responses are starting to sound like trolling or a gross misrepresentation of your experience level IME (in my experience).
I still haven't heard "FOH" and that is not gonna change if you continue bragging with your touring and what not. Your response doesn't have any relevance for this thread.BTW, do you even know that master volume is also "gain"?
Completely missing the point. Sigh.
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Sure, they could call it "preamp volume" and "power amp volume" instead, which would make it more clear that the only reason to change "gain" is to set your not-to-speaker-output signal level. Because it doesn't do anything if you're using the amp as an amp.
Technically, master volume is also gain. In this case it might have been smarter to clearify the function with a different word.
Never heard of, but then I'm not from an english speaking country.
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Since there are other TB members who may learn something from this information, it’s not just for you.
Since I’ve been designing large scale commercially successful bass amps for a very long time, I might know a thing or two about this topic.Why are you repeating exactly what you've already written?
BTW, do you even know that master volume is also "gain"?
Completely missing the point. Sigh.
You are blaming that you are from a non-English speaking country, yet FOH has been a globally accepted and used term for as long as I have been in the business. It has everything to do with the topic, and it’s good information for those who haven’t heard the term, don’t have much pro audio experience, and aren’t a closed minded know it all who is trying to “school” some of the most experienced TB members who have responded.
The only person who is missing the point is you at this point. Remember, YOU were the one who was asking the question about master volume versus gain, then started arguing with those who actually know.
Then you should scrape off "gain" and "master" and write your favorite terminology in its place. Or you can leave it and just get used to the labeling system that's been in place for decades. Either way, it's not going to change a thing.
Glad you enjoy your amp, though.
