I've got a Taurus 1 and two Taurus 2s and do not own nor will I buy any behringer stuff so I guess I should keep quiet in this particular thread.
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New Behringer Toro: desktop Moog Taurus?
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The Model D clone they have sounds exactly like the real thing but in an affordable and compact form.
I expect this one to sound exactly like the original too.
I expect this one to sound exactly like the original too.
A good organ pedal controller for this would cost a few hundred bucks I'm guessing, which is probably why they won't attempt it.
I have a Minitaur but I'm also interested in this product. It's what I've been looking for, for years. There has been a clamor for T-1 specific items for a long time. Moog did a limited-edition T-3 and then the Minitaur but nothing more specific to T-1's. If I can find a way to securely attach the Toro to the PK-5 and they sound even close to the original, then I have no problem spreading out my money to both companies.Sounds like you aren’t the intended consumer for this then
If you know where else I can get an analog Moog Taurus style synth for $200 then please let me know and I’ll gladly throw my money that way instead.
Maybe I jinxed myself when I said I hope this thread doesn’t turn into a dumpster fire in the initial post, because we’re not even to the second page and Behringer haters have already found their way into a thread for a product they’ll never buy, despite having no direct experience with said product.
I made this thread because I’m interested in this new product, not to debate the ethics of the company itself. “Behringer=bad” is far from a new or hot take, and in fact this dead horse has been beaten so many times that it’s reaching “Which is the best bass for metal?” levels of cliché.
Moralists gonna moralize. Behringer has kinda been killing it lately with affordable, great sounding synth gear. This looks pretty sick.
Think Keith McMillen 12step, makes a great foot controller.
By the way I've owned many actual Moog's over the years, including the original Taurus, Source, Prodigy and Minimoog when they were made in Buffalo, NY. I love them, they are just too far beyond my budget.
Model D has many more features over Taurus, only a 2 oscillator synth.
By the way I've owned many actual Moog's over the years, including the original Taurus, Source, Prodigy and Minimoog when they were made in Buffalo, NY. I love them, they are just too far beyond my budget.
Model D has many more features over Taurus, only a 2 oscillator synth.
Ill never buy this or any other Behringer ripof....ooops, sorry i almost dropped my Sadowsky while typing this. Crap, I did hit my toe with it though...let me see if i have any store brand tylenol and ill be back to preach some more.
Interesting - I wonder if Moog will accept the challenge and release a true Taurus I reissue…
As for pedals, the KMI 12 Step is easily programmable but takes a lot of force to actuate - I much prefer my PK-5A for feel. However, the size and programmability of the 12 Step is really convenient.
As for pedals, the KMI 12 Step is easily programmable but takes a lot of force to actuate - I much prefer my PK-5A for feel. However, the size and programmability of the 12 Step is really convenient.
Y’all know why Behringer stuff is cheap?
I get it, it’s expensive to buy “the real thing” but if people don’t buy the real thing, then there will be no new real things. Don’t give in.
I get it, it’s expensive to buy “the real thing” but if people don’t buy the real thing, then there will be no new real things. Don’t give in.
Moog doesn’t make the real thing anymore. Behringer is the only one making something close now.
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They offer products that most people can afford to buy and they sound close enough to the originals that their bang for the buck is through the roof. It is obvious that the Moog will hold its value and for people who are interested in that sort of thing, this new unit is not going to hurt Moog in any way. Thanks to the OP for posting this I will be keeping an eye on this one.
Is anyone else going to comment that it looks like the.bull is "mounting" the logo?
"Take that Taurus!"
MOOOOOOOOOOOG!
(Yup... I went there.)
There are other forums I frequent where the constant Behringer bashing essentially ruined all discussion. Seeing it here is kind of surprising me though. There are countless communities here that all revolve around a cloned product. Granted, that doesn't mean Behringer isn't guilty for that alone. Some of their products are shameless at best, such as the Swing, and an embarrassment at worst.
With the vast majority of these synths though, they are exposing an untapped market that's been waiting to reached out to. In my case it was years, and I mean years! There were a couple of occasions where I almost bought a Korg Minilogue, but ultimately bailed out because outside of the price I was NOT drawn to it. It sounded meh. The real sounds I wanted were locked behind thousands upon thousands in the used market. Then it was asked why a Minimoog should cost over $4000 when it only took a couple of hundred to produce. There are a lot of answers for that, with some being good but others including things such as Pride, Greed, and Gatekeeping.
You think some of these synth manufacturers would have watched the guitar industry more closely, or hell...even the auto industry. There are so many brands that have budget entries. If I want a Fender Jazz, that doesn't mean I have to hit up the custom shop when the Player Series is right there. Or...maybe to keep them honest I'll check out a Sire clone. These companies have to evolve. I feel like Behringer has even played a hand in pushing Sequential towards the Take 5.
At any rate, I believe the synth market is a bit larger than many realize. Many of the same people that were buying synths pre-behringer are still going to. On the other hand, many of the new Behringer buying folks were probably never going to take the plunge without the initial cheap option; or maybe it's the first step into a larger love affair with synthesizers. Using myself as an example again, I started off with a Behringer and next ended up with a Moog. There's more Behringer products I've got my eye on, but the dream has always been the Prophet 5. I feel like I'm closer to making that happen since I actually know how to work a synth now. Of course, it pisses some off that I'm able to play a synth for the prices I paid (the gatekeeping I mentioned), but oh well.
Beautiful. Haha
What real thing though? The Taurus was last released as a very expensive limited issue and sounded different anyway. The closest thing to it is the Minitaur, which is a good synth but a different ballpark as I mentioned. I'm hoping the Toro can really nail the Taurus 1 vibe in a way the Minitaur couldn't. I already own the latter, but I'll be happy to own both.
With the vast majority of these synths though, they are exposing an untapped market that's been waiting to reached out to. In my case it was years, and I mean years! There were a couple of occasions where I almost bought a Korg Minilogue, but ultimately bailed out because outside of the price I was NOT drawn to it. It sounded meh. The real sounds I wanted were locked behind thousands upon thousands in the used market. Then it was asked why a Minimoog should cost over $4000 when it only took a couple of hundred to produce. There are a lot of answers for that, with some being good but others including things such as Pride, Greed, and Gatekeeping.
You think some of these synth manufacturers would have watched the guitar industry more closely, or hell...even the auto industry. There are so many brands that have budget entries. If I want a Fender Jazz, that doesn't mean I have to hit up the custom shop when the Player Series is right there. Or...maybe to keep them honest I'll check out a Sire clone. These companies have to evolve. I feel like Behringer has even played a hand in pushing Sequential towards the Take 5.
At any rate, I believe the synth market is a bit larger than many realize. Many of the same people that were buying synths pre-behringer are still going to. On the other hand, many of the new Behringer buying folks were probably never going to take the plunge without the initial cheap option; or maybe it's the first step into a larger love affair with synthesizers. Using myself as an example again, I started off with a Behringer and next ended up with a Moog. There's more Behringer products I've got my eye on, but the dream has always been the Prophet 5. I feel like I'm closer to making that happen since I actually know how to work a synth now. Of course, it pisses some off that I'm able to play a synth for the prices I paid (the gatekeeping I mentioned), but oh well.
Beautiful. Haha
What real thing though? The Taurus was last released as a very expensive limited issue and sounded different anyway. The closest thing to it is the Minitaur, which is a good synth but a different ballpark as I mentioned. I'm hoping the Toro can really nail the Taurus 1 vibe in a way the Minitaur couldn't. I already own the latter, but I'll be happy to own both.
This is one of their bigger problems at the moment. The pandemic has slowed production to the point that they're getting the rep of being a vaporware company, which is ridiculous for how Synths they DID release, haha. I've got the UBXA pre-ordered, and at this point they HAVE to nail it. Pretty close won't be close enough, it has to be dead on, especially if the rumored Sequential OB-X Collab with Tom Oberheim happens.
they cost that much because 50 years later they still work. It’s called build quality. I guarantee your Boog will be in a landfill in 50 years (hell probably half that time). To some that is worth paying for. I personally don’t like disposable music gear, I buy vintage when they used parts like steel and wood not flimsy plastic. But I understand I’m not everyone. It’s the same with the Hifi crowd; they stopped supporting companies that in the 80’s and 90’s switched to making everything BPC (black plastic crap).
Build Quality definitely plays a part (although not all). We're actually agreeing here, more or less, although our feelings differ. If I get 25 years out of this thing then I am more than satisfied, like you said some people would. It's kind of like my last car, it was cheap but did well by me, and I drove it until the wheels came off. Sure, I'd like to have a nice showcar that I can keep for decades as well, but I also need something that's going to get me from point A to B. Something that's going to do the job, for now.
That company has came a long way since back in the day, when I was making fun of them for their cheap plastic, knockoff pedals that you couldn't even step on in fear of them breaking. I'm hoping they inspire other synth companies to compete on the budget level. That way, in yet another comparison, if the Fender Player Series isn't doing the job for me, then I could buy a Sire instead.
No price, but basically it's like standing in line. This is through Sweetwater, by the way. I think the only issue I'll have (outside of waiting for the thing to actually be a real thing in my hands lol) is potentially the naming scheme. I've talked to other people online who have also reserved it and was told that they were first in line. I believe the sales reps are entering the product a bit different from one another (UBXA, UB-XA, UB/XA, etc.)
