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New Boss multi effects for bass

As I've gotten onto how the operating system works I've begun to understand how to work around it to get the patchs (Boss calls them "memories" rather than "presets" which is an adjustment) set up the to be useable to me. In example, on the Stomp I can set up a preset so I can turn on/off effects on a basic preset by assigning them to a foot switch. At this time it's not clear to me if or how to do that with the GX-1B. In example my most used effect is Pitch Shift - on the Stomp I simply press a foot switch to turn it on/off. On the Boss I'm having to take my basic preset, copy it to the next preset with the pitch shift engaged, and scroll up or down to the next preset with the effect included and turned on. Just a different mindset on my part but functional. I'm open to instruction on that point as well and if anyone can explain that to me I'd be appreciative.
If you go into the menu and select “CTL FUNC”, you can make each of the footswitches turn on/off a different effect.
 
By contrast, the user interface of the Anagram solves what I think is THE problem with all other multi effects: I need instant control on the settings and intuitive UI.
This is exactly how I feel about the HXFX. Looking at the Stomp gives me PTSD. I’m trying to be patient and see what happens with the Stadium line, with respect to the realm of the HXFX.
Since the HXFX I’ve lost interest in all subsequent multi effects.
 
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If you go into the menu and select “CTL FUNC”, you can make each of the footswitches turn on/off a different effect.
Thank you! I'm rereading the manuals again for the umpteenth time and taking some time to mess with it more as I go, it's all starting to make more sense. Obviously missed that part so thank you again for the info. Cheers!
 
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With respect, have you considered that there is a significant segment of the market that isn't looking for "fresh and new" or particularly "innovative" but rather are looking for something proven to work and last that sounds good (or good enough if you prefer), that doesn't require an engineers degree to operate, is reliable and easy to use, and doesn't cost a gran(d) and half?

Yeah it's not probably what you'd use for serious recording but for live performance especially for most of us operating at the cover band/event band/corporate band/tribute band/whatever level, something like this unit, higher level Boss mfx units, the Line 6 stuff etc etc, this and similar units are the answer to doing things as simply, effectively, and (relatively) inexpensively as is reasonable. I'm not as concerned about innovative as I am about products that do what I need them to do as simply and reliably as possible at a reasonably attainable price range while meeting a quality of sound/tone reproduction that only knowledgeable cork sniffers would be bothered by if they can discern a notable difference. The small percentage of notable difference especially when being used primarily for live performance versus the cost of the State-of-the-Art stuff is IMO simply past the Point of Diminishing Returns for the majority of us. As always YMMV.

As has been discussed on this forum ad nauseum, most live audiences (and a large majority of us less-than-full-time-professionals as well) can't tell a discernable enough difference to be worth the cost difference and basically just don't care. That IMO is the segment products like this are trying to reach. I can replace a bass amp/cab/pedal board with something that has WAY more options tonally and is much easier to haul around/set up/ blah blah blah for $250? Meets my needs so I ordered one. Guilty as charged.
Some people will buy this just to replace bigger footprint pedals doing more or less the same thing.

Add AIRD, BT and the accessible unit price ..
 
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This is exactly how I feel about the HXFX. Looking at the Stomp gives me PTSD. I’m trying to be patient and see what happens with the Stadium line, with respect to the realm of the HXFX.
Since the HXFX I’ve lost interest in all subsequent multi effects.
The Stomp was initially like that for me as well. As I had no previous experience it took time, study of the manuals, and just basically screwing with it enough to get the light to come on in my head for that one and same for the GX-1B. As I've been able to put more time and focus into it how it operates and wants to be addressed it's starting to come into focus. I think my experience with the Stomp is helping me get my head around it in general, although as I've said earlier the operating system is pretty different in how it wants to be programed compared to how Line 6 approaches it. But I feel a lot more in tune with it now than I did a week ago and it's all starting to make sense.

IMO I think any of the digital processor systems require some time, tinkering, and head scratching to understand how they work and likely no good way around that. For me it's ultimately worth the effort, although I do wish these companies would come up with some way to make the process simpler and more intuitive. More in depth, step-by-step instructions would be a great start and IMO that's the downfall of all of these type systems I've had contact with, the unwillingness/inability to make their manuals simpler, more understandable, and more user friendly. Line 6 does a pretty fair job of it, Boss IMO less so. We're not all engineers out here, dumbing it down a bit and explaining stuff step-by-step would be a great step in the right direction and would likely help people get past their anxiety of taking on the learning process and potentially make the decision to take the digital processor leap (and buy their products!) easier.
 
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Update to my post #58 talking about my initial impressions of the GX-1B, for whatever it might be worth to anyone. I felt like my previous comments may have been a bit negative and that wasn't really the impression I'd intended. Now that I've had some time to really dig into the unit and understand how it's organized and how to sort through the menus to build/modify presets I feel like I'm fairly well on top of that part now. i/e I can build a preset (memory) from scratch pretty quickly, add and tweak effects and amp settings, assign foot switches, all the stuff one needs to know to make it useable/gig-able So FWIW...

Positives so far - IMO programming stuff is really pretty straight forward once I understood how to work through the menus to edit, build, and save presets so that's turned out to be pretty simple. There are several amps and amp/cab combos that are in the ballpark of what I'm going for tonally that require little to no tweaking, and what ever tweaking required is pretty simple since there aren't a lot of deep options to have to sort through. So from that perspective, out of the box one could probably set it up to gig with right away. IMO it's definitely a good and functional option for anyone wanting to go ampless on the cheap or to use it as a pedal board replacement. Unlike the Line 6 stuff there aren't nearly as many tweakable parameters available which makes the tweaking less time consuming and more straight forward, which makes things simpler. Which is both a positive and potentially a negative as well, but all of the sounds and effects that I've played with so far are good and are functional, so unless you're a serial deep tweaker that's probably a plus overall.

Negatives so far - I haven't managed yet to figure out how to assign more than one effect on/off per footswitch, or if it's even possible. So far it doesn't seem to want to allow me to do that but again I'm still learning the fine points of the unit so if anyone knows and can instruct me... In example on the Stomp I have a self built preset where I can turn on/off three effects at once using only one foot switch (delay-chorus-reverb in this case). On the GX I had to assign each to it's own footswitch to achieve the same effect. Not a big deal as I only use that for small parts in a couple of songs, just not as handy. Still playing with that though, but if anyone knows the answer to that issue...

The one BIG negative that has me kind of disappointed is the Pitch Shifter. On the Stomp it's clean and natural sounding, same or similar to a down tuned bass, completely useable. On the GX unit there is some sort of weird chorus/reverb-ish overtone that just doesn't sound natural, and there are hardly any parameters available to tweak on that. And what is there to tweak doesn't have any positive affect. Since I rely on the ability to quickly down-tune on the fly for several songs without switching basses, at this time it pretty much precludes me from using it for live gigging. Which sucks because there are definitely some basic amp/cab settings I'd love to be able to use live. With no effects loop on this unit adding an external drop tune pedal isn't an option and would defeat the purpose anyway. So even using it as a backup to the Stomp is problematic (would require a second down-tuned bass which again defeats the purpose). So for me that's definitely a negative.


All in all I do think the GX-1B is a worthy and functional option for someone on the fence about going digital or replacing a pedal board with something simpler. Unless you really need a pitch shifter of course. This DOES do some things the Stomp doesn't (especially the synth stuff) and vice versa and the things it does do make it an interesting and attractive unit. If the damn Pitch Shift were better I'd be gigging with it and if you don't need Pitch Shift capability it's definitely a very good solid gig-able unit. For me at this time, considering that the pitch shifter IMO is unworkable crap, from a gig-able perspective it's still a work in progress.
 
Ordered, be here Friday. I liked the sounds of the ME-90B, but it was just too much to port around and plop down as a gigging all-in-one.

My good old Zoom B2four did a great job last weekend, outdoor gig, DI-into the PA, so, I'm seeing if this unit will be any sort of upgrade for me. I never dug the synths of the Zoom, and hoping Boss will have some nice presets to mess with.

I'd love to see a high quality multi that didn't have 200 effects you'll really never use, just a basic dozen or so that make sense. I don't think having 47 flavors of flanger/chorus or 38 different pre-amps makes ANY difference to the audience.
 
In that case I think you'll like the Boss. Way fewer options for each amp, cab, effect etc and fewer tweakable parameters for each. This being a bass specific unit as opposed to the GX-10, GX-100, Line 6 Helix family etc, which are for both guitar AND bass, it makes sense that there would be fewer options to sort through. More straight forward and to the point which is one of the reasons I bought mine. Why pay twice as much for the GX-10 (which I almost did before I saw the 1B released) when you don't want or need that part of it.

Haven't dug into the synth stuff too much but there seems to be quite a few synth-type patches that sound promising.
 
In that case I think you'll like the Boss. Way fewer options for each amp, cab, effect etc and fewer tweakable parameters for each. This being a bass specific unit as opposed to the GX-10, GX-100, Line 6 Helix family etc, which are for both guitar AND bass, it makes sense that there would be fewer options to sort through. More straight forward and to the point which is one of the reasons I bought mine. Why pay twice as much for the GX-10 (which I almost did before I saw the 1B released) when you don't want or need that part of it.

Haven't dug into the synth stuff too much but there seems to be quite a few synth-type patches that sound promising.
The synth sounds most players are looking for are the 80s ones like the Yamaha DX-7. So far the only pedal that has some of those sounds is the MXR Bass Synth.
Some of the presets sounds awesome abd can be tweaked and saved for future use. It’s a pedal that will require “clean playing” technique, otherwise the tracking is marginal.
Rumor has it that Panda Audio (Future Impact) and Darkglass (Anagram) are working on it. Once that is confirmed the Anagram will be my pedal of choice.
 
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Lots of solid amp/cab sounds and the few effects I've used (delays, reverbs, chorus etc) are solid. The Defretter effect does work and sounds cool though it's subtle. The Pitch Shifter effect is crap though, has a very obvious, very unnatural chorus artifact that makes it pretty much unusable for shifting away from normal tuning. Someone stated earlier that is probably due to the power (or lack there of) of the processor. There are a lot of interesting sounding synth oriented patchs but I really haven't had the need or opportunity to dig into them just yet.
Quoted myself from the other thread on the subject https://www.talkbass.com/threads/boss-gx-1b.1684232/ FWIW. Probably not a lot of help, however what I have played with do sound like they're useable, or at least tweakable enough to be useable.
 
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So I now have the Boss GX-1B. Trying to set it up as in stomp box mode.
If I'm using the 3 foot switches for octaver - synth - chorus is there then no way of getting a global compression (always on) first without having to use one of the fx blocks for it and loosing one of the other 3 effects?
 
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Thanks!
I just watched this and he’s the only one so far that mentions the stomp box way of using the effect.
It helped me getting a basic stomp set up ready but I would love to be able to add a compressor first of all without loosing any of the other 3 effects as stomp possibilities.
Maybe it’s not doable.
I’m not really interested in using it in regular memory mode with more than one effect per foot switch.
 
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Thanks!
I just watched this and he’s the only one so far that mentions the stomp box way of using the effect.
It helped me getting a basic stomp set up ready but I would love to be able to add a compressor first of all without loosing any of the other 3 effects as stomp possibilities.
Maybe it’s not doable.
I’m not really interested in using it in regular memory mode with more than one effect per foot switch.
Me too to be honest!
 
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