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Personal anecdotes are fun and all but they aren't meaningful when accurately describing real world behavior. I once witnessed a large RV get blown sideways by a strong crossword and the driver couldn't compensate and lost control, resulting in the vehicle leaving the roadway and rolling over 3 times, landing on its roof in the ditch.
Who's to blame for that accident? Should we condemn the RV manufacturer for making and selling a vehicle that is inherently unstable? Or the driver, who should really just go on vacation by packing a tent and a bunch of camping gear in a normal car, instead of being a menace on the road in his gigantic, rolling safety hazard?
The way I look at it, life is full of risks, and you pick which ones are worthwhile to take and which ones to avoid. I consider the ongoing public outcry over the danger of SUV's to be a lot of hot air about nothing.
You're preaching to the choir on that one. I was merely saying that an SUV does not have to go off road to roll, and my anecdotal evidence proves it.
Also, there are tons of videos on youtube of SUV's rolling without ever leaving the lanes.
One thing I do find comical is in the movie Casino Royale, where Bond roles his Austin Martin. They had to use a hydraulic lift to get that car to flip. In the rain like that such a car would have spun on the road and spun on the grass. But the role was a lot cooler.
That is not what we are talking about. I've seen semi's, STANDING STILL, get blown over.
It's also anecdotal.
I'm not the one trying to "condemn" anyone. As you pointed out, the rv was more prone to rollover than a Corvette. I'm only trying to acknowledge that, yes, different vehicle types bring different risks. That's it. Yes, SUV's as a group, are more prone to rollover than vehicles with lower centers of gravity. I'm not saying people should not own RV's or SUV's.
Like I said, Opels are one of my favorite sport cars.No, I did not know that.
My rear end went out on mine and I got a rear end off an Opel Kadet. It came with the rear anti sway bar. I was able to remove the nylon plugs in the frame on my car and bolt it on. (the GT didn't come with an anti-sway bar in the US.)
I put 7" Libre's on it. I sold it for a down payment on a house.
Got any pics of yours?
Oh yeah, I started this thread!
Nope. I looked at the RAV4 the other day and it was meh like the other crossovers I've driven. I think I am going back to the Mazda dealer to take a look at the Mazda6 again--it's a manual transmission and the seats fold down so I can haul my bass stuff!
All this SUV flipping/not flipping, alien and wench talk is making my head spin!
The Opel bit I liked though.
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@twocargar just wanted to let you know that both my wife and I had a Mazda 6 and were very happy with them UNTIL winter came along...
My wife once had to drive home in a snowstorm and (be aware that I know nothing at all about cars) the rear wheels locked up! Saw it with my own eyes. She drove for miles sideways as she was hitting the gas and the rear wheels, both of them, just would not move. Had the car checked soup to nuts and they could not find anything wrong but never trusted it again.
My Mazda 6 (with all season tires, not snow tires) would get stuck with the slightest of snowfalls. Literally, if there was a 1/4" of snow on the ground the car would not move.
Other than that (interior ergonomics, comfort of ride, no maintenance issues, etc.) the cars were actually quite good.
But I would never buy another one...
My wife once had to drive home in a snowstorm and (be aware that I know nothing at all about cars) the rear wheels locked up! Saw it with my own eyes. She drove for miles sideways as she was hitting the gas and the rear wheels, both of them, just would not move. Had the car checked soup to nuts and they could not find anything wrong but never trusted it again.
My Mazda 6 (with all season tires, not snow tires) would get stuck with the slightest of snowfalls. Literally, if there was a 1/4" of snow on the ground the car would not move.
Other than that (interior ergonomics, comfort of ride, no maintenance issues, etc.) the cars were actually quite good.
But I would never buy another one...
It was a while ago...I believe mine was a 2009 and I had it for about 4 years but I will check with my wife tonight and update this post when I am sure...
It's funny to me how the lifted truck craze has suddenly become so popular...... I was into it 30 years ago when most guys were lowering trucks.
I built this Blazer in 1993 and daily drove it up until a few years ago.... it needs a freshening up and I've got it stored in a barn for now.
No "compensating" here..... I built it because I wanted to.
Yup. MT is hard enough by itself. As much as it pains me to say it, buy something with two pedals unless you're planning to keep the car forever. You will get clobbered with your manual transmission on resale. Exceptions include sports cars and econoboxes, and maaaaybe "grand touring" types. But that's not what you're trying to buy.
That said, MT might be the best anti-theft device we've got these days.
Yeah, it's sad. The end of an era for mainstream cars with a MT. Funny that now you can even get a Cadillac with a MT, but I think they're going after a different demographic.
Mazda, VW and Subaru seem to be the ones that keep turning up in my searches for my price range. There are a few others of course.
I turn 50 in a couple years, so maybe I should just wait and buy me a Porsche or Corvette with a MT for my mid-life crisis car.
Mazda, VW and Subaru seem to be the ones that keep turning up in my searches for my price range. There are a few others of course.
I turn 50 in a couple years, so maybe I should just wait and buy me a Porsche or Corvette with a MT for my mid-life crisis car.
I turn 50 in a couple years, so maybe I should just wait and buy me a Porsche or Corvette with a MT for my mid-life crisis car.
Depends on which knee needs to be replaced first......
